<strong>I've noticed that there seems to be a lot of AI'ers in or around Philly. Myself included. Anyone want to meet there?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I love Philly, I was born and raised there. I'm going to move back soon and I can't wait. This weekend I'm going to see my home boys kick the living snot out of the Ranger at MSG. My first Philly game away from home.
Anyway... Fran don't you mean Taxachusetts?
My 2 favorite cities are Boston and Philly, too bad I live in NY right now
[quote]Fran don't you mean Taxachusetts? <hr></blockquote>
The thing that annoys me is that even though I live in NH where you pay outrageously high property taxes, I have to pay MA income tax because I work there.
To me, that wasn't a problem because when I first lived out of state and was still paying income tax, I got a discount to school (UMass Lowell). But now Jane "Acting Governor" Swift forced through a budget that not only increases UML tuition by 10%, but also, I don't get a discount any more, and I STILL have to pay income tax DESPITE being a student at one of their schools.
Plus, I don't see how it's fair that MA gets to 'double dip' on taxes. If you work in MA, despite what state you are from, they want you to pay MA state income tax. That means if you live in NH and work in MA, you have to pay their income tax. But the thing that I don't get is this: If you live in MA and work in NH, you have to pay MA state income tax.
They double dip on the taxes and seem to get away with it. Plus, in some states, if you are a resident of a state with no sales tax, and you buy something out of a state and present your id, you don't have to pay sales tax. But not with MA. There, EVERYONE pays sales tax.
Then, everyone from MA spends their weekend clogging the roads to drive up to NH and buy everything without the sales tax. During the summer, they come from MA to use our State Parks, our hiking trails, etc. During the winter, they come from MA to ski. During the fall, they come from MA to 'leaf peep'.
Do you know what NH taxes? Here we go:
1.) Property
2.) Meals
We also have toll booths which go to maintain our roads which are like 12 lanes wide in some parts of Nashua. Meanwhile, down in MA, you've got the people who work on the roads stealing the money, pushing the project back by years, and having the Republican admistration completely turning a blind eye to it.
I've seen what MA spends their taxes on too. No wonder the state is in such debt. First of all, don't even get me started on the MCAS. Plus, MA says they focus on education as one of their top priorities. Guess what? I graduated from a MA public school. I thought it was all right until after we moved, when I saw the new school my younger brother and sister were going to attend. It was unbelievable! First of all, the school was clean. Second of all, the school was state of the art- they had everything a public school needs to be able to teach the classes. Science labs built after 1948, for example.
Finally, I was able to see the amount of classes they had to choose from. In Manchester, they had very few electives. I chose debate, and that was my elective. (There were only like 3 or 4 others.) At the school my brother and sister attend, I think they could choose more classes to take then I could choose at College! It was unbelievable to me. So while students in Manchester apparently hate the school so much, they dropout in high numbers, and threaten to bomb the school (Manchester had a bomb threat last week), this school seems like an actual good environment.
So if the money isn't being spent on education, it must be spent on the roads.
MA has the Big Dig- the Central Artery project. This project involves taking wheelbarrows full of money and dumping it into large holes in Boston where it will never be seen again. For people outside of Boston, the project is so mismanaged and behind schedule, they already know that when it is finished, the new Central Artery will be obsolete. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
They also have to rotate out leaders on the project due to corruption. The project has run WAY overbudget, and by the time that the Republican administration noticed, there was a huge chunk of money missing.
MA is also working on Route 3 ("The Parking Lot"). Incidently, I have to drive to work on this road everyday. I start out in NH on Route 3 on my 6 lane highway (on my own side of the road, no less) and as I approach MA, cars start merging from 6, to 4, to 3 lanes without a slow down. Then right before I cross the border, the highway is down to 2 lanes, and traffic is forced to slow down to <45 MPH or face a ticket from the MA state police as they are working on the road. Originally, they were supposed to make it a four lane highway, but then decided to make it a 3 lane highway with breakdown lanes on both sides of the road. (WTF???) This project is actually going well from the progress I've seen, but it won't be completed until 2005 or so. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
So what else is MA spending their tax money on (besides private helicopter rides for Swifty, or her babysitters)? I'd really like to know, because I'm forced to pay their income tax without any input whatsoever, or any benefit to me. Hey, wait a minute. What about no taxation without representation? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Yeah, you can take either the Metro North railroad or a bus to White Plains, and then take the Tappan ZEExpress bus to the Palisades Center.
An off-peak round trip ticket from Grand Central to White Plains is 10 bucks. Not sure how much those Tappan Zeexperes buses are though.
To paraphrase those NY Mercedes commercials:
"I know how it is, I live here too"
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A few months ago I did that with a friend and it was horrible. Once you get off the train you have to get right to the bus and I didn't know that and we ended up missing the bus and we had to wait an hour in the cold in Tarrytown. It really sucked.
lol, you know fran, after hearing your go after ScottH. in the other taxes thread, i would have thought you could appreciate how you're just one of those high income tax bracket folks helpin' out the poo' folk.
I pay taxes in New Hampshire, because I live in New Hampshire. Even if I have to pay taxes in Massachusetts, I should get something in return- like my college discount that MA now refuses to give me.
Plus, as I'm a student, I SHOULD be exempt from paying income taxes in the first place. But no- for some reason, I don't get that 'benefit'. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
My point is that MA has been a mismanaged state for the last decade, and as a result, they get my money by double dipping into the tax system. "No taxation without Representation".
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<strong>Well... other forums have meetups...
why not AIMeets?
or something?
DC folks, let's set an example...</strong><hr></blockquote>
other boards don't need parental supervision
Sounds like a good time to me.
Us NY folks haven't even been able to meet up at MWNY (that I know of).
Of course, if anyone is down for it...
Can you take public transportation to Palisades?
<strong>Hmmm. Anyone from AI live in Southern NH?
The only reason i would be in Southern NH would be to buy something tax free
<strong>heh heh.
Us NY folks haven't even been able to meet up at MWNY (that I know of).
Of course, if anyone is down for it...
Can you take public transportation to Palisades?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, you can take either the Metro North railroad or a bus to White Plains, and then take the Tappan ZEExpress bus to the Palisades Center.
An off-peak round trip ticket from Grand Central to White Plains is 10 bucks. Not sure how much those Tappan Zeexperes buses are though.
To paraphrase those NY Mercedes commercials:
"I know how it is, I live here too"
<strong>Hmmm. Anyone from AI live in Southern NH?
I live close
<strong>I've noticed that there seems to be a lot of AI'ers in or around Philly. Myself included. Anyone want to meet there?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I love Philly, I was born and raised there. I'm going to move back soon and I can't wait. This weekend I'm going to see my home boys kick the living snot out of the Ranger at MSG. My first Philly game away from home.
Anyway... Fran don't you mean Taxachusetts?
My 2 favorite cities are Boston and Philly, too bad I live in NY right now
The thing that annoys me is that even though I live in NH where you pay outrageously high property taxes, I have to pay MA income tax because I work there.
To me, that wasn't a problem because when I first lived out of state and was still paying income tax, I got a discount to school (UMass Lowell). But now Jane "Acting Governor" Swift forced through a budget that not only increases UML tuition by 10%, but also, I don't get a discount any more, and I STILL have to pay income tax DESPITE being a student at one of their schools.
Plus, I don't see how it's fair that MA gets to 'double dip' on taxes. If you work in MA, despite what state you are from, they want you to pay MA state income tax. That means if you live in NH and work in MA, you have to pay their income tax. But the thing that I don't get is this: If you live in MA and work in NH, you have to pay MA state income tax.
They double dip on the taxes and seem to get away with it. Plus, in some states, if you are a resident of a state with no sales tax, and you buy something out of a state and present your id, you don't have to pay sales tax. But not with MA. There, EVERYONE pays sales tax.
Then, everyone from MA spends their weekend clogging the roads to drive up to NH and buy everything without the sales tax. During the summer, they come from MA to use our State Parks, our hiking trails, etc. During the winter, they come from MA to ski. During the fall, they come from MA to 'leaf peep'.
Do you know what NH taxes? Here we go:
1.) Property
2.) Meals
We also have toll booths which go to maintain our roads which are like 12 lanes wide in some parts of Nashua. Meanwhile, down in MA, you've got the people who work on the roads stealing the money, pushing the project back by years, and having the Republican admistration completely turning a blind eye to it.
I've seen what MA spends their taxes on too. No wonder the state is in such debt. First of all, don't even get me started on the MCAS. Plus, MA says they focus on education as one of their top priorities. Guess what? I graduated from a MA public school. I thought it was all right until after we moved, when I saw the new school my younger brother and sister were going to attend. It was unbelievable! First of all, the school was clean. Second of all, the school was state of the art- they had everything a public school needs to be able to teach the classes. Science labs built after 1948, for example.
Finally, I was able to see the amount of classes they had to choose from. In Manchester, they had very few electives. I chose debate, and that was my elective. (There were only like 3 or 4 others.) At the school my brother and sister attend, I think they could choose more classes to take then I could choose at College! It was unbelievable to me. So while students in Manchester apparently hate the school so much, they dropout in high numbers, and threaten to bomb the school (Manchester had a bomb threat last week), this school seems like an actual good environment.
So if the money isn't being spent on education, it must be spent on the roads.
MA has the Big Dig- the Central Artery project. This project involves taking wheelbarrows full of money and dumping it into large holes in Boston where it will never be seen again. For people outside of Boston, the project is so mismanaged and behind schedule, they already know that when it is finished, the new Central Artery will be obsolete. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
They also have to rotate out leaders on the project due to corruption. The project has run WAY overbudget, and by the time that the Republican administration noticed, there was a huge chunk of money missing.
MA is also working on Route 3 ("The Parking Lot"). Incidently, I have to drive to work on this road everyday. I start out in NH on Route 3 on my 6 lane highway (on my own side of the road, no less) and as I approach MA, cars start merging from 6, to 4, to 3 lanes without a slow down. Then right before I cross the border, the highway is down to 2 lanes, and traffic is forced to slow down to <45 MPH or face a ticket from the MA state police as they are working on the road. Originally, they were supposed to make it a four lane highway, but then decided to make it a 3 lane highway with breakdown lanes on both sides of the road. (WTF???) This project is actually going well from the progress I've seen, but it won't be completed until 2005 or so. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
So what else is MA spending their tax money on (besides private helicopter rides for Swifty, or her babysitters)? I'd really like to know, because I'm forced to pay their income tax without any input whatsoever, or any benefit to me. Hey, wait a minute. What about no taxation without representation? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Maybe you should chuck a Newton at her head during the next rally. I hear those things were pretty heavy.
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Yeah, you can take either the Metro North railroad or a bus to White Plains, and then take the Tappan ZEExpress bus to the Palisades Center.
An off-peak round trip ticket from Grand Central to White Plains is 10 bucks. Not sure how much those Tappan Zeexperes buses are though.
To paraphrase those NY Mercedes commercials:
"I know how it is, I live here too"
A few months ago I did that with a friend and it was horrible. Once you get off the train you have to get right to the bus and I didn't know that and we ended up missing the bus and we had to wait an hour in the cold in Tarrytown. It really sucked.
-alcimedes
Plus, as I'm a student, I SHOULD be exempt from paying income taxes in the first place. But no- for some reason, I don't get that 'benefit'. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
My point is that MA has been a mismanaged state for the last decade, and as a result, they get my money by double dipping into the tax system. "No taxation without Representation".