Hey Extreme, can I jump in here? I can relate to your remark regarding not having anything interesting online, as that is the same with me. But what about those people who do their income taxes online ? .... shouldn't we do everything possible to protect their privacy? .... what about banking online ? .... what about an innocent picture of a grandchild taking a bath sent to grandpa and grandma .... what if it was easy for a child molester to get that image and make it part of a worldwide porn site. The thing is, imho, privacy lost is the most valuable thing we have .... we have to protect it at all costs. Once it's gone, it's gone forever.
I agree. But that isn't what mouse is talking about. He is all about morals and net neutrality we aren't really taking about using secure servers or data protection which everyone that uses a computer should take very seriously.
But I also look at it this way I have a better chance of some kid making 7.00 an hour stealing my credit card at a store then I do having it stolen online.
In any case we could post 300 more posts on internet security thats a huge topic.
Devices, not smartphones and not small limites product lineup all using the same components. How many of those 65.3M Samsung phones have 802.11n or Categpry 5 HSUPA or even the same high-end display panel type?
And in that period how many of that 8m phones Apple sold had those features. You seem to ignore the fact that the second quarter results contain zero iPhone 4 sales.
And Staples sold 500 billion paperclips in the same time frame. So what? Why are you comparing Samsung's total sales - including dumb phones that Apple doesn't have an interest in) with Apple's smartphone sales?
Just as Apple sells a lot more iDevices than the iPhone.
oh reeeeeally?
Toyota sells different cars, all have 4 wheels, steering wheels, and are, just cars. Just like android phones are all, phones, they all just look a little different and a few different features. Your own analogy backfired on you.
To see a well educated estimate of smartphone platform marketshare possibilities in the near term if Samsung chooses to go Bada exclusive, here's an interesting viewpoint:
Apple's iPhone is seventh in units sold with 2.7 percent of the market share, and iOS is fourth with 14.2 percent of the market. So with that why are the U.S. DOJ and European Union targeting Apple for having a monopoly?
Apple's iPhone is seventh in units sold with 2.7 percent of the market share, and iOS is fourth with 14.2 percent of the market. So with that why are the U.S. DOJ and European Union targeting Apple for having a monopoly?
The government needs to put a stop to Apple monopolizing mindshare. It should be illegal for any one company to have it's devices compared to and talked about constantly, especially when they don't have the highest unit sales. Why no talk of a Blackberry Killer or Symbian OS Killer, only iPhone Killers, despite the iPhone having much less than either of these. Apple is clearly using subliminal advertising to trick users. Down with mindshare monopolies I say!
Interestingly, Google is only pushing this compromise in the USA. I wonder why.
If I had to make a guess, I'd say it's because the USA appears to be one of the easiest countries in the world where it's possible to "buy favorable legislation". ... One look at the financial industries clout over government policy over the last few decades should be enough to arrive at that conclusion. .... and which tech company is right up there with political donations. Here's a clue .... it's not Apple.
P.S. .. I haven't made up my mind yet about the Google/Verizon proposal because I haven't done enough research yet to reach an informed opinion .... but when I do I'll share it.
The government needs to put a stop to Apple monopolizing mindshare. It should be illegal for any one company to have it's devices compared to and talked about constantly, especially when they don't have the highest unit sales. Why no talk of a Blackberry Killer or Symbian OS Killer, only iPhone Killers, despite the iPhone having much less than either of these. Apple is clearly using subliminal advertising to trick users. Down with mindshare monopolies I say!
HeHe ... I can only hope that everybody gets this post, because otherwise .... we're in for a long day.
I was referring to the bluetooth hardware and the bluez library. For some reason, Samsung broke bluez so apps like the wiimote input app no longer works. There are some HTC phones that have a similar problem and point to HTC Sense as the culprit. I've combed over the bluez source for the galaxy phones and can't find anything that would break it (it's the same as the one used in ubuntu 9) so it must be a kernel level break.
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Hey Extreme, can I jump in here? I can relate to your remark regarding not having anything interesting online, as that is the same with me. But what about those people who do their income taxes online ? .... shouldn't we do everything possible to protect their privacy? .... what about banking online ? .... what about an innocent picture of a grandchild taking a bath sent to grandpa and grandma .... what if it was easy for a child molester to get that image and make it part of a worldwide porn site. The thing is, imho, privacy lost is the most valuable thing we have .... we have to protect it at all costs. Once it's gone, it's gone forever.
I agree. But that isn't what mouse is talking about. He is all about morals and net neutrality we aren't really taking about using secure servers or data protection which everyone that uses a computer should take very seriously.
But I also look at it this way I have a better chance of some kid making 7.00 an hour stealing my credit card at a store then I do having it stolen online.
In any case we could post 300 more posts on internet security thats a huge topic.
Devices, not smartphones and not small limites product lineup all using the same components. How many of those 65.3M Samsung phones have 802.11n or Categpry 5 HSUPA or even the same high-end display panel type?
And in that period how many of that 8m phones Apple sold had those features. You seem to ignore the fact that the second quarter results contain zero iPhone 4 sales.
In any case we could post 300 more posts on internet security thats a huge topic.
Hey, that would be a record anyway ..... 600 some odd posts .... who says quantity doesn't trump quality ...hahaha
And Staples sold 500 billion paperclips in the same time frame. So what? Why are you comparing Samsung's total sales - including dumb phones that Apple doesn't have an interest in) with Apple's smartphone sales?
Just as Apple sells a lot more iDevices than the iPhone.
oh reeeeeally?
Toyota sells different cars, all have 4 wheels, steering wheels, and are, just cars. Just like android phones are all, phones, they all just look a little different and a few different features. Your own analogy backfired on you.
To see a well educated estimate of smartphone platform marketshare possibilities in the near term if Samsung chooses to go Bada exclusive, here's an interesting viewpoint:
http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...artphones.html
Regs, Jarkko
Are you a relative of Tomi's?
Are you a relative of Tomi's?
I wish I were. Would be more wealthy and possibly more influental.
Only relation is the same lastname, country of birth and general field of work (mobile telecoms).
Regs, Jarkko
Apple's iPhone is seventh in units sold with 2.7 percent of the market share, and iOS is fourth with 14.2 percent of the market. So with that why are the U.S. DOJ and European Union targeting Apple for having a monopoly?
The government needs to put a stop to Apple monopolizing mindshare. It should be illegal for any one company to have it's devices compared to and talked about constantly, especially when they don't have the highest unit sales. Why no talk of a Blackberry Killer or Symbian OS Killer, only iPhone Killers, despite the iPhone having much less than either of these. Apple is clearly using subliminal advertising to trick users. Down with mindshare monopolies I say!
Interestingly, Google is only pushing this compromise in the USA. I wonder why.
If I had to make a guess, I'd say it's because the USA appears to be one of the easiest countries in the world where it's possible to "buy favorable legislation". ... One look at the financial industries clout over government policy over the last few decades should be enough to arrive at that conclusion. .... and which tech company is right up there with political donations. Here's a clue .... it's not Apple.
P.S. .. I haven't made up my mind yet about the Google/Verizon proposal because I haven't done enough research yet to reach an informed opinion .... but when I do I'll share it.
The government needs to put a stop to Apple monopolizing mindshare. It should be illegal for any one company to have it's devices compared to and talked about constantly, especially when they don't have the highest unit sales. Why no talk of a Blackberry Killer or Symbian OS Killer, only iPhone Killers, despite the iPhone having much less than either of these. Apple is clearly using subliminal advertising to trick users. Down with mindshare monopolies I say!
HeHe ... I can only hope that everybody gets this post, because otherwise .... we're in for a long day.
Not sure that I follow what apps were killed?
I was referring to the bluetooth hardware and the bluez library. For some reason, Samsung broke bluez so apps like the wiimote input app no longer works. There are some HTC phones that have a similar problem and point to HTC Sense as the culprit. I've combed over the bluez source for the galaxy phones and can't find anything that would break it (it's the same as the one used in ubuntu 9) so it must be a kernel level break.