I have an old AppleTV and an iMac and I still dont see your point. The AppleTV will "wake" my iMac whenever I need to stream content from it. You dont NEED to turn off you mac, it will go to sleep on its own and the beauty is the AppleTV can wake it up without you having to go touch the keyboard.
Now if you have a win-garbage Pc than abends half the time when it wakes up thats another story.
I have a Macbook and an old AppleTV does not wake it. Sometimes when streaming movies from the Macbook, the Macbook goes to sleep and the movie stops. I have to wake the computer, quit itunes, start it over. Now I run Caffeine to keep the computer from going to sleep. It's lame but necessary.
how much flash storage memory and on-board RAM does it have? that will determine how much can be done via jailbreak. has anyone opened it up and looked yet?
I have over three hundred movies ripped into iTunes, thousands of songs, all of my photos and video footage stored on my main computer, with Home Sharing turned on. This server runs on the 5 GHz band of the AE dual router all by itself. Other devices attach to the 2.4 GHz band and pull info from it that way.
It seems like I could get a number of AppleTV's to place at every TV in the house. I can just store my DVD's in the garage and not have to futz with them anymore. I'm looking forward to an all-digital future.
I wish the studios would get on board with that vision... if they can figure out how to monetize it.
Thompson
Yeah, even for "local storage" it's much better to have a central repository and stream to TVs around the house.
I just sold my old Apple TV in prep for new model. However, I note there are no audio output jacks on the new model. How do I get my iTunes music to play on my audio system? I use to take the audio output and plug it into my preamp/processor>
I have a Macbook and an old AppleTV does not wake it. Sometimes when streaming movies from the Macbook, the Macbook goes to sleep and the movie stops. I have to wake the computer, quit itunes, start it over. Now I run Caffeine to keep the computer from going to sleep. It's lame but necessary.
Wierd my iMac does no go to sleep when I am streaming. Could it be an OS-X version problem or a setting problem. My iMac is about 1 year old.
I have over three hundred movies ripped into iTunes, thousands of songs, all of my photos and video footage stored on my main computer, with Home Sharing turned on. This server runs on the 5 GHz band of the AE dual router all by itself. Other devices attach to the 2.4 GHz band and pull info from it that way.
Currently I have the same setup, with all my files on my iMac itunes. But the HD is almost full. I have about 500 movies and TV shows on it and all the physical DvD/BR are in box under the bed. I took me about 6 months to rip everything but I am pretty glad I did.
Still no firm eta on my order, I wonder when the retail stores will stock them, getting impatient now! Lol
Seems that Apple once again heavily underestimated consumer demand and so are flat on their backs not able to stock up on these.
Still not a bad position for them to be in, just annoying that I ordered mine on September 9th and probably have to wait at least another 2 weeks.
Got my shipping confirmation yesterday for delivery up to or before 4th October. Mind you i ordered mine minutes after Apple announced it on their live streaming event.
Put your new AppleTV on the dedicated 5GHZ network if you feel like it's necessary. (FWIW, when streaming from the internet I suspect that your bottleneck will most likely be your internet service to your house, regardless of whether you use 5 GHz or mixed mode 2.4 GHz.)
Then, if you intend on streaming stuff from your computer to the AppleTV, put the computer on the other band in mixed mode. You're really not going to have a lot of competing info streaming about there are you? I can tell you this: any decreased bandwidth your main computer experiences just because it is running on a mixed mode network is going to be better than the guaranteed slowdown you'll get from having both ends of the streaming (computer and AppleTV) riding the same band and hitting it very hard simultaneously.
So, my advice is actually this:
Put your main computer and AppleTV on different bands. Probably doesn't matter which one is on the mixed mode network unless you have other devices that have to be on the mixed mode network and that will stream content to/from your main computer now and then. Then you want the main computer on the 5 GHz network.
Thompson
This logic just doesn't seem to make sense to me. Two wireless devices talking to each other on the 5GHz N Network should not be creating that much "competition for bandwidth" with each other at the same time, but hey it seems to be working for you and I'll try anything given the problems I'm having.
My "Main" computer, an iMac i5 is hard wired, via gigabit ethernet, to a newer Time Capsule that also has a 5GHz and a 2.4GHz wireless networks set up. I use the 2.4 in mixed mode for two PS3s (almost never running), a Wie, (almost never running) and our iPhones (2 iPhone 4s and 1 iPhone 3GS). I use the 5GHz strickly in N mode for a MacBook Pro, a new Mac Mini, and and old ATV. I have given up on watching things like Apple Movie trailers in HD on the ATV because they stream so slow that they start and stop several times during just a 2-3 minute trailer to "buffer" more data. Oh yeah, and the internet connection comming into the house is a 25MBPS FiOS, which is blazing fast on the main computer. A couple of other surrounding wireless networks in the area occasionally show up so I have tried things like using different channels for the network, etc.
I am interested in the new ATV but I would miss being able to sync since streaming has not worked well for me even with the latest gear.
I don't get it. It's a smaller version of the old AppleTV with no local storage.
But only £99 and made of chocolate. Mind you i hope it's not made of chocolate as it'll melt pretty quickly if my old ATV is anything to go by.
I'm so glad i sold my 40GB ATV when i did, in fact i did it the day AI announced this new device on the back of a rumour. Got £97 off a geezer on Ebay. Ended the auction early when he made the offer and ended up collecting it and paying cash. No Ebay or PayPal fees. What a result.
I have an old AppleTV and an iMac and I still dont see your point. The AppleTV will "wake" my iMac whenever I need to stream content from it. You dont NEED to turn off you mac, it will go to sleep on its own and the beauty is the AppleTV can wake it up without you having to go touch the keyboard.
But the real solution, has I said, would be an itunes that run from a netdrive so its always available for anyone in the house and for any devices.
Now if you have a win-garbage Pc than abends half the time when it wakes up thats another story.
Got no problem leaving my iMac on, but do I also have to have iTunes open and running with Home share on the whole times as well to acommodate streaming to the new ATV?
Got no problem leaving my iMac on, but do I also have to have iTunes open and running with Home share on the whole times as well to acommodate streaming to the new ATV?
I would have thought so. Just tried the new iPad remote app and turned on home sharing. Picked up my iTunes library but when i shut iTunes down the app lost connection. I would have thought the new aTV uses the same principle, although i'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination.
Got no problem leaving my iMac on, but do I also have to have iTunes open and running with Home share on the whole times as well to acommodate streaming to the new ATV?
Yes.
I just keep iTunes up on my server 24/7. When I walk away, I at least "Hide" the application.
I still don't get why they did;nt use the iOS and make a killing on more apps sold and distributed. Get everyone hooked just like the iphone....Then just have an iTV app on the front.
I really wondered about this. Use the iOS, add an accessible USB port, and it opens up a whole new world of apps and gaming. With minimal effort. The only consideration is porting touch screen apps to some kind of controller.
Seems like Apple is missing a huge opportunity, especially for $99.
I just sold my old Apple TV in prep for new model. However, I note there are no audio output jacks on the new model. How do I get my iTunes music to play on my audio system? I use to take the audio output and plug it into my preamp/processor>
Couldn't you use the TV as a passive audio out device (granted, there's more power consumption).
Actually, the easiest solution is to get one of the new dual band AirPort extremes. Run one band as 5 GHz N only, and run the other one as 2.4 GHz Mixed Mode (N, G & . Go ahead and give them two separate names so you can specifically assign devices to whichever band you want. If you have two N devices that are going to talk to one another frequently, I've found that it is better to attach one of them to the 5GHz N and the other to the 2.4 GHz Mixed, otherwise during any given transfer the two devices are competing for wireless bandwidth with one another. By putting one of the N's on the mixed mode (and potentially slightly handicapped) band the contention is removed, and the result is better throughput... even if there are some G devices attached (but not currently doing anything).
Thompson
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Originally Posted by herbapou
I really dont get why people want local storage. I had a WDTV with USB and to add something new you had to unplug the drive, plug it into a Pc then wait for the file to copy, then plug it back into the WDTV. Why would you want to do this when you can just stream from the network...
imo local storage is bad files management, files should be on a netdrive with an external USB drive backup that is store OUT of the house (work, family, friends,...). I have two 1TB USB drives with one at work and one at home and I do backup rotations with them.
Because streaming is not perfect. Files stored on the ATV do not require the network to perform at any certain level. If everything was wired, then streaming wouldn't be a bad thing. Wireless is just too finicky, even with 802.11n.
I only have to hit the "Sync" button in iTunes all that's it. I don't see how this is difficult at all.
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I have an old AppleTV and an iMac and I still dont see your point. The AppleTV will "wake" my iMac whenever I need to stream content from it. You dont NEED to turn off you mac, it will go to sleep on its own and the beauty is the AppleTV can wake it up without you having to go touch the keyboard.
Now if you have a win-garbage Pc than abends half the time when it wakes up thats another story.
I have a Macbook and an old AppleTV does not wake it. Sometimes when streaming movies from the Macbook, the Macbook goes to sleep and the movie stops. I have to wake the computer, quit itunes, start it over. Now I run Caffeine to keep the computer from going to sleep. It's lame but necessary.
I have over three hundred movies ripped into iTunes, thousands of songs, all of my photos and video footage stored on my main computer, with Home Sharing turned on. This server runs on the 5 GHz band of the AE dual router all by itself. Other devices attach to the 2.4 GHz band and pull info from it that way.
It seems like I could get a number of AppleTV's to place at every TV in the house. I can just store my DVD's in the garage and not have to futz with them anymore. I'm looking forward to an all-digital future.
I wish the studios would get on board with that vision... if they can figure out how to monetize it.
Thompson
Yeah, even for "local storage" it's much better to have a central repository and stream to TVs around the house.
I just sold my old Apple TV in prep for new model. However, I note there are no audio output jacks on the new model. How do I get my iTunes music to play on my audio system? I use to take the audio output and plug it into my preamp/processor>
The Optical Audio out port.
I have a Macbook and an old AppleTV does not wake it. Sometimes when streaming movies from the Macbook, the Macbook goes to sleep and the movie stops. I have to wake the computer, quit itunes, start it over. Now I run Caffeine to keep the computer from going to sleep. It's lame but necessary.
Wierd my iMac does no go to sleep when I am streaming. Could it be an OS-X version problem or a setting problem. My iMac is about 1 year old.
I have over three hundred movies ripped into iTunes, thousands of songs, all of my photos and video footage stored on my main computer, with Home Sharing turned on. This server runs on the 5 GHz band of the AE dual router all by itself. Other devices attach to the 2.4 GHz band and pull info from it that way.
Currently I have the same setup, with all my files on my iMac itunes. But the HD is almost full. I have about 500 movies and TV shows on it and all the physical DvD/BR are in box under the bed. I took me about 6 months to rip everything but I am pretty glad I did.
Still no firm eta on my order, I wonder when the retail stores will stock them, getting impatient now! Lol
Seems that Apple once again heavily underestimated consumer demand and so are flat on their backs not able to stock up on these.
Still not a bad position for them to be in, just annoying that I ordered mine on September 9th and probably have to wait at least another 2 weeks.
Got my shipping confirmation yesterday for delivery up to or before 4th October. Mind you i ordered mine minutes after Apple announced it on their live streaming event.
You shouldn't be too far away.
Looks good enough to eat.
Put your new AppleTV on the dedicated 5GHZ network if you feel like it's necessary. (FWIW, when streaming from the internet I suspect that your bottleneck will most likely be your internet service to your house, regardless of whether you use 5 GHz or mixed mode 2.4 GHz.)
Then, if you intend on streaming stuff from your computer to the AppleTV, put the computer on the other band in mixed mode. You're really not going to have a lot of competing info streaming about there are you? I can tell you this: any decreased bandwidth your main computer experiences just because it is running on a mixed mode network is going to be better than the guaranteed slowdown you'll get from having both ends of the streaming (computer and AppleTV) riding the same band and hitting it very hard simultaneously.
So, my advice is actually this:
Put your main computer and AppleTV on different bands. Probably doesn't matter which one is on the mixed mode network unless you have other devices that have to be on the mixed mode network and that will stream content to/from your main computer now and then. Then you want the main computer on the 5 GHz network.
Thompson
This logic just doesn't seem to make sense to me. Two wireless devices talking to each other on the 5GHz N Network should not be creating that much "competition for bandwidth" with each other at the same time, but hey it seems to be working for you and I'll try anything given the problems I'm having.
My "Main" computer, an iMac i5 is hard wired, via gigabit ethernet, to a newer Time Capsule that also has a 5GHz and a 2.4GHz wireless networks set up. I use the 2.4 in mixed mode for two PS3s (almost never running), a Wie, (almost never running) and our iPhones (2 iPhone 4s and 1 iPhone 3GS). I use the 5GHz strickly in N mode for a MacBook Pro, a new Mac Mini, and and old ATV. I have given up on watching things like Apple Movie trailers in HD on the ATV because they stream so slow that they start and stop several times during just a 2-3 minute trailer to "buffer" more data. Oh yeah, and the internet connection comming into the house is a 25MBPS FiOS, which is blazing fast on the main computer. A couple of other surrounding wireless networks in the area occasionally show up so I have tried things like using different channels for the network, etc.
I am interested in the new ATV but I would miss being able to sync since streaming has not worked well for me even with the latest gear.
I don't get it. It's a smaller version of the old AppleTV with no local storage.
But only £99 and made of chocolate. Mind you i hope it's not made of chocolate as it'll melt pretty quickly if my old ATV is anything to go by.
I'm so glad i sold my 40GB ATV when i did, in fact i did it the day AI announced this new device on the back of a rumour. Got £97 off a geezer on Ebay. Ended the auction early when he made the offer and ended up collecting it and paying cash. No Ebay or PayPal fees. What a result.
It's his own fault for not reading AI
The packaging is uncharacteristically sloppy for Apple.
For $99 it will do
I have an old AppleTV and an iMac and I still dont see your point. The AppleTV will "wake" my iMac whenever I need to stream content from it. You dont NEED to turn off you mac, it will go to sleep on its own and the beauty is the AppleTV can wake it up without you having to go touch the keyboard.
But the real solution, has I said, would be an itunes that run from a netdrive so its always available for anyone in the house and for any devices.
Now if you have a win-garbage Pc than abends half the time when it wakes up thats another story.
Got no problem leaving my iMac on, but do I also have to have iTunes open and running with Home share on the whole times as well to acommodate streaming to the new ATV?
When do owners of earlier models get NetFlix?
There is a $99 upgrade charge.
So, um.., like, are the Apple sticker decals "Made in China" too?
Yes, but they are designed by Apple in California
Got no problem leaving my iMac on, but do I also have to have iTunes open and running with Home share on the whole times as well to acommodate streaming to the new ATV?
I would have thought so. Just tried the new iPad remote app and turned on home sharing. Picked up my iTunes library but when i shut iTunes down the app lost connection. I would have thought the new aTV uses the same principle, although i'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination.
Got no problem leaving my iMac on, but do I also have to have iTunes open and running with Home share on the whole times as well to acommodate streaming to the new ATV?
Yes.
I just keep iTunes up on my server 24/7. When I walk away, I at least "Hide" the application.
Thompson
I still don't get why they did;nt use the iOS and make a killing on more apps sold and distributed. Get everyone hooked just like the iphone....Then just have an iTV app on the front.
I really wondered about this. Use the iOS, add an accessible USB port, and it opens up a whole new world of apps and gaming. With minimal effort. The only consideration is porting touch screen apps to some kind of controller.
Seems like Apple is missing a huge opportunity, especially for $99.
I don't get it. It's a smaller version of the old AppleTV with no local storage.
You can download the content to your computer or (soon) to your iPad and stream from those?
I just sold my old Apple TV in prep for new model. However, I note there are no audio output jacks on the new model. How do I get my iTunes music to play on my audio system? I use to take the audio output and plug it into my preamp/processor>
Couldn't you use the TV as a passive audio out device (granted, there's more power consumption).
Actually, the easiest solution is to get one of the new dual band AirPort extremes. Run one band as 5 GHz N only, and run the other one as 2.4 GHz Mixed Mode (N, G &
Thompson
I really dont get why people want local storage. I had a WDTV with USB and to add something new you had to unplug the drive, plug it into a Pc then wait for the file to copy, then plug it back into the WDTV. Why would you want to do this when you can just stream from the network...
imo local storage is bad files management, files should be on a netdrive with an external USB drive backup that is store OUT of the house (work, family, friends,...). I have two 1TB USB drives with one at work and one at home and I do backup rotations with them.
Because streaming is not perfect. Files stored on the ATV do not require the network to perform at any certain level. If everything was wired, then streaming wouldn't be a bad thing. Wireless is just too finicky, even with 802.11n.
I only have to hit the "Sync" button in iTunes all that's it. I don't see how this is difficult at all.