More than half of online H.264 videos are now in iOS-friendly HTML5

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  • Reply 21 of 61
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wurm5150 View Post


    And ESPN.. In fact someone should make a keyboard just for men with only 3 keys or buttons for porn, music, sports.. You can probably throw in a 4th for games. Those are the only things all a guy need to survive.



    Apple seems to only like one button for stuff so you may have to pick your poison. But it they did add more, they might as well give us 5 buttons - one for each finger on one hand, with button 5 pouring your beer. 6 would be too many as you need the other hand for well, umm, holding your beer. Or they could go with gestures to make it work.
  • Reply 22 of 61
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wurm5150 View Post


    And ESPN.. In fact someone should make a keyboard just for men with only 3 keys or buttons for porn, music, sports.. You can probably throw in a 4th for games. Those are the only things all a guy need to survive.



    I would've said a keyboard with only "Back", "Forward", and of course "Close Window" for when the wife is coming over
  • Reply 23 of 61
    Yea!
  • Reply 24 of 61
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    Originally Posted by CIM View Post


    Flash is dead!



    No it isn't.
  • Reply 25 of 61
    cimcim Posts: 197member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post


    No it isn't.



    OK, it’s dying and will be dead soon. Fixed.
  • Reply 26 of 61
    I for one am tired of the almost daily 'you should update your Flash version' or 'you should update your Reader version' notifications.
  • Reply 27 of 61
    irelandireland Posts: 17,686member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CIM View Post


    Flash is dead!



    Flash is not dead. I wish it was.
  • Reply 28 of 61
    Now what we need is for all these content publishers to make HTML5 the default and use Flash for those with older browsers.
  • Reply 29 of 61
    Will Steve be anti html5 once Adobe releases Edge? That looks pretty promising. I'm actually impressed to see Adobe thinking ahead.
  • Reply 30 of 61
    patspats Posts: 112member
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    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    But what did he make up? Refute his lies with facts! If you're going to tell someone they made facts up, at least bring the REAL facts to the table to substantiate your claim



    @Chronster, can't believe you are that stupid.



    Quote:

    using Steve's proprietary h.264 codec



    Do you know anything about h.264 ?



    Fact h.264 is a standard used across the industry including Flash. HTML 5 is the next major revision to the Web standard.



    When somebody calls h.264 proprietary. We need to understand that H.264 patents are owned by a Patent Pool of which Apple is a minority member. In comparison Google owns the patents on VP8 and Adobe owns the patents for Flash Video the container file format. The flash container contains material encoded in h.264 or VP6. VP6 was developed by On2 and used by Adobe which resulted it it becoming a defacto standard. To say H.264 is proprietary and owned by Steve Jobs is a huge distortion of fact.



    proprietary |p(r)əˈprī-iˌterē|

    adjective

    of or relating to an owner or ownership : the company has a proprietary right to the property.

    ? (of a product) marketed under and protected by a registered trade name : proprietary brands of insecticide.

    ? behaving as if one were the owner of someone or something : he looked about him with a proprietary air.
  • Reply 31 of 61
    kotatsukotatsu Posts: 1,010member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CIM View Post


    Flash is dead!



    It's a very, very long way from being dead. Even if every web video was in HTML 5 (which they certainly aren't), Flash is still used for a vast array of other uses.



    The fact that flash will within 6 months be on EVERY mobile platform except iOS will further prolong it's life. I'd put money on flash still being very common in 5 years time.
  • Reply 32 of 61
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    Originally Posted by matrix07 View Post


    So now Blu-Ray use Steve's proprietary CODEC?



    Steve doesn't own H.264, troll. Try again.
  • Reply 33 of 61
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    It's a very, very long way from being dead. Even if every web video was in HTML 5 (which they certainly aren't), Flash is still used for a vast array of other uses.



    The fact that flash will within 6 months be on EVERY mobile platform except iOS will further prolong it's life. I'd put money on flash still being very common in 5 years time.



    Personally I've been extremely surprised since I got my iPad how few websites I visit that a lack of Flash support has been a problem.



    This whole thing got hyped up to be a much bigger deal than it is.
  • Reply 34 of 61
    steve-jsteve-j Posts: 320member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pats View Post


    To say H.264 is proprietary and owned by Steve Jobs is a huge distortion of fact.






    Would you instead say it is proprietary and partly owned by Steve?
  • Reply 35 of 61
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pats View Post


    @Chronster, can't believe you are that stupid.







    Do you know anything about h.264 ?



    Fact h.264 is a standard used across the industry including Flash. HTML 5 is the next major revision to the Web standard.



    When somebody calls h.264 proprietary. We need to understand that H.264 patents are owned by a Patent Pool of which Apple is a minority member.



    .h264 != HTML5
  • Reply 36 of 61
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Adobe made it really easy for developers to deploy video content to the web for the last decade. It served a very useful purpose for the sake of ubiquitous computability when the rest of the industry was duking it out trying to establish their own format as the dominate standard. Windows Media, Real Media, QuickTime, and a host of others were screwing up the whole video business.



    Now that a better video codec has come along and has the support of all the major players including Adobe, it is time for Flash to gradually return to what it is best suited for. Serving video is trivial technologically compared to the real application programming that Flash is known for. If you want to run video inside of your application and have subtitles, or white board running in sync, conditional branching, or want controls to be able to scrub backwards. Stuff that is not typically part of watching TV shows, then Flash is still your platform of choice.
  • Reply 37 of 61
    cimcim Posts: 197member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    It's a very, very long way from being dead. Even if every web video was in HTML 5 (which they certainly aren't), Flash is still used for a vast array of other uses.



    The fact that flash will within 6 months be on EVERY mobile platform except iOS will further prolong it's life. I'd put money on flash still being very common in 5 years time.



    Java and Shockwave are still around, but you don?t need them. That?s what Flash will be like in 5 years.
  • Reply 38 of 61
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by macnyc View Post


    If you're going to be a troll at least check your information first...



    Quote:

    In countries where patents on software algorithms are upheld, vendors and commercial users of products that use H.264/AVC are expected to pay patent licensing royalties for the patented technology that their products use. This applies to the Baseline Profile as well. A private organization known as MPEG LA, which is not affiliated in any way with the MPEG standardization organization, administers the licenses for patents applying to this standard, as well as the patent pools for MPEG-2 Part 1 Systems, MPEG-2 Part 2 Video, MPEG-4 Part 2 Video, and other technologies. The last US MPEG LA patents for H.264 may not expire until 2028.



    On August 26, 2010 MPEG LA announced that H.264 encoded internet video that is free to end users will never be charged for royalties. All other royalties will remain in place such as the royalties for products that decode and encode H.264 video.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264



    See also:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_LA
  • Reply 39 of 61
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    1) The trolls have done their job well today. Can we please ignore their jackassary and get the thread back on track?



    2) This really isn't H.264 v. Flash as Adobe has incorporoated H.264 before te video tag in HTML5 was even remotely common in modern browsers. Sure, they added it as a "me too" feature after MS Silverlight did, but they still added it, and was and is the primary codec Flash video is streamed to users if you want a decent resolution.



    3) I may have thought this number suspect but looking at Adobe's inability to get Flash on all non-iOS-based mobile devices being sold today, their nice HTML5 video plugin that falls back to Flash on older browsers, and recent preview demo of their app to make HTML5-compliant websites leads mento believe this is true. Note: The last two items give me hope that Adobe realizes that they aren't in the "Flash business" but in the "web design business". Preemptive kudos on them.



    edit: I see pats covered my 2nd point and RationalTroll still has reading comprehension problems.
  • Reply 40 of 61
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RationalTroll View Post


    The only important thing is that those who are using Steve's proprietary h.264 codec



    You are kinding!! H.264 is not Steve's Codec. The MPEG-LA would certainly have something to say about that.



    H.264 as part of the MPEG standard. Which follows the same kind of rules etc. as JPEG. Or don't you use JPEGs either?



    Happy trolling buddy.
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