That is the biggest hype for nada. Sure it is cool to have the Beatles, but really? Overhype, under deliver. I am a HUGE Apple fan, but this was a HUGE let down.
Why would you want Redbook? Why, only the other day, some people with "golden ears" told me right here in this very forum that CDs are lossy and vinyl will always be the way to go.
Vinyl is lossy, very very lossy. Anyone who claims to have "golden ears" typically doesn't. It's not a professional term, term is used exclusively for older, overweight men to make themselves feel superior to other music shoppers and consumers.
Redbook audio is no different than whats on pressed CDs, its just a list of technical standards for pressing discs that are compatible with players. There is no magic. CD specs exceed vinyl, greater frequency range (vinyl has a huge lower frequency roll-off), and most importantly the signal to noise ratio is pitiful on vinyl, and aside from buffer skipping - mechanical noise from the reading mechanism isn't a problem.
So how does vinyl get this reputation?
1. You can make it sounds like a digital washboard, which has nothing to do with its audio integrity, but made it popular with people who wear their baseball caps the wrong way.
2. Handling 12 inch discs is more visible part of the show than barely 5 inch discs across a club if you're a disc jockey.
3. People who believe in magic.
Spectrograph beats any ear. It also lacks those pesky feelings & emotions that do terrible things for objectivity and reasoning. Like whatever format and music you want, just stop trying to claim magical powers about a medium you don't understand.
I love it. For years people here and elsewhere have gone on and on and on and on about how the iTunes Music Store can't be taken seriously as long as they don't carry The Beatles. Now they announce that they're carrying The Beatles and the reaction by many of these same people is "how can anyone take this seriously?"
Amazing. People just LOVE to complain, don't they?
Now to all the complainers of this announcement, why the negativity, does it ALWAYS have to involve monetary gain ? Cannot you be satisfied with this news.
Simple, if you are not a fan, then don't post (why should you), if you are a fan, like me, then post away if you like. If you are someone expecting a different announcement from this one, hold back your frustrations, chill for 10m seconds before hitting the send button.
Remember The Beatles are not our enemies, only the M$/Google evil axis is, let us vent our spleens at them, and save our energies for another battle for another day.
Quote for today "Go outside and look up at the night sky (if its dark), spot a shooting star and marvel at what you can see by doing the simple"
Michael Jackson owned 50% of the publishing rights. Publishing rights are normally held by music companies like Sony and Universal, not artists, and are commonly granted by contract as "payment" for the production, promotion, distribution, etc. of an album. Michael Jackson's publishing rights essentially gave him the right to cash royalty checks. It's an investment that confers very little power over the works themselves. Record companies rarely sell these rights; it's essentially like having a money tree as long as the album continues to experience a good sales volume. These only got "in the wild" when Northern Songs (the original publishing rights holder) was acquired in 1969 by ATV, and the catalog was sold again in 1984 to Michael Jackson.
Lennon and McCartney have always maintained the songwriting rights to their own material, which are generally held by artists and not music companies.
Untrue. I recently bought a music video just to see if it was locked down and it was.
You sheep missed the point. DRM or not, no one buys music anymore.
Laughable how you now try to cover up the fact that you originally had no idea what you were talking about.
Your original quote was referring to the release of The Beatles catalog and you said "who buys music anymore, especially music full of DRM?" Yes, videos may have some DRM, but music on the iTMS doesn't. What in the world would videos having DRM have to do with the release of The Beatles catalog, none of which has any DRM?
Fewer people buy music, yes. But lots of people still buy music. Especially The Beatles. And especially on the iTMS. Now those two things are brought together, and I'd be willing to bet quite a few tracks get sold in the upcoming months. New kids will buy a few things. Older people who have The Beatles on vinyl or tape will probably buy some stuff. Fans that aren't super fans will fill in some gaps in their collection. Again, this is just like when Beatles 1 came out and sold a TON.
I am astounded at the criticism of Apple for "overly hyping" this announcement, then failing to live up to it. We're talking about 3 or four cryptic lines on a splash page for a couple of days. They could have hardly hyped it any less. Maybe a press release after the fact? You'd think they'd rented Albert Hall and invited the Queen. Come on critics, a little proportion, please.
You sheep missed the point. DRM or not, no one buys music anymore.
He's called out, proven wrong and put in an indefensible position. So all that's left is to lash out and call the other guy a sheep. Yeah, it's pathetic, but completely predictable. I mean, what, you expected him to be a man and admit he was wrong?
And the 'no one buys music anymore' bit - that's just SAD. Yeah, people buy millions of iPods and iPhones each year so they can NOT put music on them. Yeah, that's what's happening. The iTunes store must be a ghost town, no one's going there. Apple must be going broke. This clown isn't clueless.
I am astounded at the criticism of Apple for "overly hyping" this announcement, then failing to live up to it. We're talking about 3 or four cryptic lines on a splash page for a couple of days. They could have hardly hyped it any less. Maybe a press release after the fact? You'd think they'd rented Albert Hall and invited the Queen. Come on critics, a little proportion, please.
See, that's what I don't get at all.
Anyways, I'm listening to Abbey Road right now, since I d/l-ed the whole thing.
...and this is the first time they are selling their music digitally? Wow, they are stupid too. Hopefully no one buys their music on iTunes. They think they are sooo special. Fuck the Beatles.
Hey, I know! Let's get all foaming at the mouth over this and take our Beatles records to collection centers and stomp on them and light them on fire and, and, and...
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I love Apple, but this was beyond anti-climactic
Yes. If only they had delivered the teleportation machine to your house!
Hey!! Don't mock the man! His very life hinged upon Apple's announcement this morning. Things will never ever be the same for him again.
It's sad, Apple, that you can damage people's lives so much and get away with it!! Sad...
Why would you want Redbook? Why, only the other day, some people with "golden ears" told me right here in this very forum that CDs are lossy and vinyl will always be the way to go.
Vinyl is lossy, very very lossy. Anyone who claims to have "golden ears" typically doesn't. It's not a professional term, term is used exclusively for older, overweight men to make themselves feel superior to other music shoppers and consumers.
Redbook audio is no different than whats on pressed CDs, its just a list of technical standards for pressing discs that are compatible with players. There is no magic. CD specs exceed vinyl, greater frequency range (vinyl has a huge lower frequency roll-off), and most importantly the signal to noise ratio is pitiful on vinyl, and aside from buffer skipping - mechanical noise from the reading mechanism isn't a problem.
So how does vinyl get this reputation?
1. You can make it sounds like a digital washboard, which has nothing to do with its audio integrity, but made it popular with people who wear their baseball caps the wrong way.
2. Handling 12 inch discs is more visible part of the show than barely 5 inch discs across a club if you're a disc jockey.
3. People who believe in magic.
Spectrograph beats any ear. It also lacks those pesky feelings & emotions that do terrible things for objectivity and reasoning. Like whatever format and music you want, just stop trying to claim magical powers about a medium you don't understand.
Amazing. People just LOVE to complain, don't they?
I figured it out. The reason this will be "unforgettable" is because it was indeed the worst Apple Tuesday ever!
At last The Beatles have arrived on iTunes.
Now to all the complainers of this announcement, why the negativity, does it ALWAYS have to involve monetary gain ? Cannot you be satisfied with this news.
Simple, if you are not a fan, then don't post (why should you), if you are a fan, like me, then post away if you like. If you are someone expecting a different announcement from this one, hold back your frustrations, chill for 10m seconds before hitting the send button.
Remember The Beatles are not our enemies, only the M$/Google evil axis is, let us vent our spleens at them, and save our energies for another battle for another day.
Quote for today "Go outside and look up at the night sky (if its dark), spot a shooting star and marvel at what you can see by doing the simple"
I'm still amazed at how many people don't know the info contained in the quote below.
And I'm still amazed at how many people don't understand the intricacies of the different types of rights in the music business.
http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/jackson.asp
Michael Jackson owned 50% of the publishing rights. Publishing rights are normally held by music companies like Sony and Universal, not artists, and are commonly granted by contract as "payment" for the production, promotion, distribution, etc. of an album. Michael Jackson's publishing rights essentially gave him the right to cash royalty checks. It's an investment that confers very little power over the works themselves. Record companies rarely sell these rights; it's essentially like having a money tree as long as the album continues to experience a good sales volume. These only got "in the wild" when Northern Songs (the original publishing rights holder) was acquired in 1969 by ATV, and the catalog was sold again in 1984 to Michael Jackson.
Lennon and McCartney have always maintained the songwriting rights to their own material, which are generally held by artists and not music companies.
I realize this is a troll, just curious of the logic on how the Beatles almost destroyed rock n roll.
"like, everybody's always talking about how great the beatles are, but they SUCK! they RUINED music!" -butthead c. 1994
Untrue. I recently bought a music video just to see if it was locked down and it was.
You sheep missed the point. DRM or not, no one buys music anymore.
Laughable how you now try to cover up the fact that you originally had no idea what you were talking about.
Your original quote was referring to the release of The Beatles catalog and you said "who buys music anymore, especially music full of DRM?" Yes, videos may have some DRM, but music on the iTMS doesn't. What in the world would videos having DRM have to do with the release of The Beatles catalog, none of which has any DRM?
Fewer people buy music, yes. But lots of people still buy music. Especially The Beatles. And especially on the iTMS. Now those two things are brought together, and I'd be willing to bet quite a few tracks get sold in the upcoming months. New kids will buy a few things. Older people who have The Beatles on vinyl or tape will probably buy some stuff. Fans that aren't super fans will fill in some gaps in their collection. Again, this is just like when Beatles 1 came out and sold a TON.
Hey!! Don't mock the man! His very life hinged upon Apple's announcement this morning. Things will never ever be the same for him again.
It's sad, Apple, that you can damage people's lives so much and get away with it!! Sad...
You're correct, of course. I should have been more concerned for his welfare.
You sheep missed the point. DRM or not, no one buys music anymore.
He's called out, proven wrong and put in an indefensible position. So all that's left is to lash out and call the other guy a sheep. Yeah, it's pathetic, but completely predictable. I mean, what, you expected him to be a man and admit he was wrong?
And the 'no one buys music anymore' bit - that's just SAD. Yeah, people buy millions of iPods and iPhones each year so they can NOT put music on them. Yeah, that's what's happening. The iTunes store must be a ghost town, no one's going there. Apple must be going broke. This clown isn't clueless.
And your contribution to the world of music is what exactly?
That's okay, 40 years from now no one will respect or care who he is either
Yes. If only they had delivered the teleportation machine to your house!
I ordered a teleportation machine. But they had problems delivering it.
I am astounded at the criticism of Apple for "overly hyping" this announcement, then failing to live up to it. We're talking about 3 or four cryptic lines on a splash page for a couple of days. They could have hardly hyped it any less. Maybe a press release after the fact? You'd think they'd rented Albert Hall and invited the Queen. Come on critics, a little proportion, please.
See, that's what I don't get at all.
Anyways, I'm listening to Abbey Road right now, since I d/l-ed the whole thing.
I ordered a teleportation machine. But they had problems delivering it.
They're generally the shape of a policeman's box. Don't you watch Doctor Who?!
I ordered a teleportation machine. But they had problems delivering it.
You must have ordered the white one.
...and this is the first time they are selling their music digitally? Wow, they are stupid too. Hopefully no one buys their music on iTunes. They think they are sooo special. Fuck the Beatles.
Hey, I know! Let's get all foaming at the mouth over this and take our Beatles records to collection centers and stomp on them and light them on fire and, and, and...
Oh wait....