Carbon fiber could be Apple's key to a lighter next-gen iPad
Apple is exploring the use of carbon fiber to create reinforced housing for its mobile devices, with the iPad a potential candidate to utilize the strong-but-light material.
The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office published a new patent application from Apple this week entitled "Reinforced Device Housing." Discovered by AppleInsider, describes an outer shell for electronic devices composed of a "layered fiber-in-matrix type material, such as CFRP," otherwise known as carbon fiber-reinforced polymer.
Illustrations that accompany the filing show a single, unibody housing similar in shape to the iPad. Apple's current, first-generation iPad has a solid aluminum back.
The application notes that electronic devices with housings made of plastic often crack. And those with a metal back are durable, but can be heavier and more expensive.
Even traditional implementations of carbon fiber may not be enough, Apple's application notes. It states that devices made of carbon fiber can crack or break if bent or rolled in a certain way, along the lengthwise axis of the fibers themselves.
Apple's solution would employ either a layered carbon fiber material or a spine or frame made from the same material to support a carbon fiber skin. Using a frame or layers would ensure that the fibers would run in different directions, thus addressing the weakness of carbon fiber housings.
The application also goes into detail as to how a carbon fiber frame for a portable electronic device, like the iPad, would be created. It involves molding the supportive spine to the carbon fiber skin for support.
The application made public this week was first filed on May 18, 2009. The proposed invention is credited to Kevin M. Kenney.
Like the iPad, the first-generation iPhone had a mostly metal back. That was changed to plastic for the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS, and a major redesign of the handset with the iPhone 4 led to a glass back.
The rear case of the iPad is made from a single billet of aluminum. In its teardown of the device earlier this year, iFixit noted that the choice of a metal back increases the weight of the iPad, but also greatly improves the rigidity of the device.
Some reports this year tied to rumors of a 7-inch iPad suggested Apple was looking at a smaller form factor because some users felt the current iPad is too heavy. However, Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs quieted those rumors in October, when he said a 7-inch tablet is too small for most consumers.
The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office published a new patent application from Apple this week entitled "Reinforced Device Housing." Discovered by AppleInsider, describes an outer shell for electronic devices composed of a "layered fiber-in-matrix type material, such as CFRP," otherwise known as carbon fiber-reinforced polymer.
Illustrations that accompany the filing show a single, unibody housing similar in shape to the iPad. Apple's current, first-generation iPad has a solid aluminum back.
The application notes that electronic devices with housings made of plastic often crack. And those with a metal back are durable, but can be heavier and more expensive.
Even traditional implementations of carbon fiber may not be enough, Apple's application notes. It states that devices made of carbon fiber can crack or break if bent or rolled in a certain way, along the lengthwise axis of the fibers themselves.
Apple's solution would employ either a layered carbon fiber material or a spine or frame made from the same material to support a carbon fiber skin. Using a frame or layers would ensure that the fibers would run in different directions, thus addressing the weakness of carbon fiber housings.
The application also goes into detail as to how a carbon fiber frame for a portable electronic device, like the iPad, would be created. It involves molding the supportive spine to the carbon fiber skin for support.
The application made public this week was first filed on May 18, 2009. The proposed invention is credited to Kevin M. Kenney.
Like the iPad, the first-generation iPhone had a mostly metal back. That was changed to plastic for the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS, and a major redesign of the handset with the iPhone 4 led to a glass back.
The rear case of the iPad is made from a single billet of aluminum. In its teardown of the device earlier this year, iFixit noted that the choice of a metal back increases the weight of the iPad, but also greatly improves the rigidity of the device.
Some reports this year tied to rumors of a 7-inch iPad suggested Apple was looking at a smaller form factor because some users felt the current iPad is too heavy. However, Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs quieted those rumors in October, when he said a 7-inch tablet is too small for most consumers.
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"Quick, go get a patent!"
This patent business has gone too far.
Just don't twist it!
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Apple's solution would employ either a layered carbon fiber material or a spine or frame made from the same material to support a carbon fiber skin. Using a frame or layers would ensure that the fibers would run in different directions, thus addressing the weakness of carbon fiber housings.
So this is where we are now. "I have an idea! Let's build bicycles out of unicorn tears one day! They're lightweight and have magical properties!"
"Quick, go get a patent!"
This patent business has gone too far.
You patent everything that you develop that can be patented. This has always been the case, and it always will. A business is being very lax if they fail to do so. If the patented product isn't useful, then no one else will want it anyway, and it's cheap enough for a large company to do.
Whether this one is useful has yet to be proven. It will be somewhat lighter, but less rigid that the current back, despite the methods used, and will be bulkier.
The application made public this week was first filed on May 18, 20209. The proposed invention is credited to Kevin M. Kenney..
That's rather far in the future.
So no LiquidMetal designs?
For something this size, it would be really expensive. When you look at the materials Liquidmetal needs, you can understand why it costs so much. Good for something very small, or something of high value, but not for run of the mill parts.
Btw, I really think the weight issue is more a battery tec issue than anything else...
So no LiquidMetal designs?
No, we have already debunked that piece of nonsense in previous threads, both in terms of extremely high cost and it being a heavy material.
As for this ridiculous patent application. If the patent office are silly enough to grant it, it would get rolled in a court challenge due to prior art. Boat building springs immediately to mind where cloth is wrapped over a PU foam form to make a skin and stiffening member a contiguous structure. Pretty sure it has been done in sailplanes for decades. as well.
There goes all the recycling gains of Aluminum and glass!
Carbon is not exactly in short supply. There are CF recovery systems if we start to run short.
Am I the only one who dislikes carbon fiber and adores aluminum and glass?
Btw, I really think the weight issue is more a battery tec issue than anything else...
I like carbon fiber. I don't see the batteries as being a surmountable problem. They are already based on lithium, the lightest metal.
Speaking of which, I wonder why Apple don't look at applying the unibody idea to magnesium instead of Aluminium. There is a glut at the moment and it's cheap. It's Lighter than Al and stiff. I know it is reactive as all hell, but maybe they could coat it with Titanium nitride or some other surface treatment to get round the problem.
No, we have already debunked that piece of nonsense in previous threads, both in terms of extremely high cost and it being a heavy material
We? Who's "we"?
I like carbon fiber. I don't see the batteries as being a surmountable problem. They are already based on lithium, the lightest metal.
Speaking of which, I wonder why Apple don't look at applying the unibody idea to magnesium instead of Aluminium. There is a glut at the moment and it's cheap. It's Lighter than Al and stiff. I know it is reactive as all hell, but maybe they could coat it with Titanium nitride or some other surface treatment to get round the problem.
Well if they don't make the batteries more effective -still based on lithium- or (something I forgot and which is equally important) the screen tech more efficient I don't think carbon fiber will save that much weight. I mean what's the difference between carbon fiber and aluminum in terms of the shell's weight? I would wager it's not more than 20-30 grams or somewhere along these lines, but if the screen and battery tech gets more efficient that could save something along the lines of 100-200 g.
His iPad was a crinkly sheet of metal and plastic by the end....
No, we have already debunked that piece of nonsense in previous threads, both in terms of extremely high cost and it being a heavy material.
As for this ridiculous patent application. If the patent office are silly enough to grant it, it would get rolled in a court challenge due to prior art. Boat building springs immediately to mind where cloth is wrapped over a PU foam form to make a skin and stiffening member a contiguous structure. Pretty sure it has been done in sailplanes for decades. as well.
Carbon is not exactly in short supply. There are CF recovery systems if we start to run short.
Boats, road cars, all formula 1 racing cars (which have tremendous impact strength) many different aircraft, both military and non military, and even other computer devices- Sony come to mind. the only thing they can be patenting is some specific manufacturing or design technique, not the use of the material. I would love them to use cfrp for this and the Macbook Air. It's light, won't dent like aluminium and won't dent or scratch other things. And when the device finally dies, it will make a lovely high tech tea tray.
Am I the only one who dislikes carbon fiber and adores aluminum and glass?
Btw, I really think the weight issue is more a battery tec issue than anything else...
I hate carbon fiber. Hope apple continues with their present materials.
Am I the only one who dislikes carbon fiber and adores aluminum and glass?
No, I feel exactly the same way.
Enough manufacturing and real-life experience to learn a lot via research.
The nanotube stuff is what might come next.