RIM's BlackBerry overtakes Apple's iPhone in US browser usage

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  • Reply 81 of 114
    cubertcubert Posts: 728member
    I don't believe this. I think RIM has phones set up in its headquarters that automatically go from website to website to jack up these stats.



    I wouldn't doubt it.
  • Reply 82 of 114
    samabsamab Posts: 1,953member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Interesting that this would happen after Apple beats RiM in unit sales. It seems odd that as Apple?s user base grows that RiM would be catching up after iOS has such a large lead. It makes me wonder if RiM has bested Apple this past month in unit sales and what(if) they?ve done to their OS to make browsing on it so much more useful.



    Apple and RIM don't have the same calender quarters and RIM expects to have sales of 14-14.5 million blackberries in the current quarter --- so that's basically a tie with Apple's last quarter numbers.
  • Reply 83 of 114
    almaalma Posts: 31member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hittrj01 View Post


    http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=503



    There is also a video in that link, too, showing Steve tout the Web 2.0 + AJAX capabilities, saying that this was how developers were going to develop apps for the iPhone. So the original poster was right, people just tend to conveniently forget this fact since the App Store has been the success it is.








    Thank you. After reading some of the posts in this forum, including racist remarks and accusations of me lying, I thought maybe that there were no good people here at all. I'm glad to know that there is at least one other person here who values kindness and truth.
  • Reply 84 of 114
    cykzcykz Posts: 81member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wurm5150 View Post


    My guess is iOS users are spending more time on apps than web browsing.. I know I do. Stuff I'm looking at are ones I could've used the web to look up but I'm using an app instead to get it (news, sports, fb, etc).



    Same here. Reading news with apps, keeping up with social networks with apps and looking up references with apps. I would love to see the stats on internet traffic generated by mobile apps.
  • Reply 85 of 114
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 6,563member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alma View Post


    Thank you. After reading some of the posts in this forum, including racist remarks and accusations of me lying, I thought maybe that there were no good people here at all. I'm glad to know that there is at least one other person here who values kindness and truth.



    So, this is the new iLuv, Steve-J, appl alias?
  • Reply 86 of 114
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post


    So, this is the new iLuv, Steve-J, appl alias?



    you got it! I was just about to alert the media.
  • Reply 87 of 114
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 6,563member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    you got it! I was just about to alert the media.



    I still think these all trace their lineage back to tekstud
  • Reply 88 of 114
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post


    I still think these all trace their lineage back to tekstud





    Whoever, they are flooding the board. I think there are at least a dozen active fake alias right now. Never seen so many first posters with obvious experience and attitude.
  • Reply 89 of 114
    I really find this hard to believe but at the same time it may make sense since there's probably a lot of people using various apps within iOS rather than just browsing such as games and more.



    I myself do a lot of web browsing on the iPad but I don't use Safari, mostly iLunascape web browser and sometimes using the Perfect Web Browser on the iPad because I need my tabs and I hate Safari's constant refreshing of the page going between pages.



    Anyway, my question is, are they including those folks that use other browsers within iOS and not just Safari use as I'm sure there's many others that have replaced Safari with some other browser app?
  • Reply 90 of 114
    I began a little experiment:



    I signed up for the service



    You setup a counter (visible or invisible) for each page you want to count -- it gives you the html to imbed in each page.



    The following is the html:



    [CODE

    ]<!-- Start of StatCounter Code -->

    <script type="text/javascript">

    var sc_project=xxxxxxx;

    var sc_invisible=0;

    var sc_security="yyyyyyy";

    </script>



    <script type="text/javascript"

    src="http://www.statcounter.com/counter/counter.js"></script><noscript><div

    class="statcounter"><a title="iweb analytics"

    href="http://statcounter.com/iweb/"; target="_blank"><img

    class="statcounter"

    src="http://c.statcounter.com/xxxxxxx/0/yyyyyyyy/0/";

    alt="iweb analytics" ></a></div></noscript>

    <!-- End of StatCounter Code --><br/><a

    href="http://statcounter.com/project/standard/stats.php?project_id=xxxxxxxx&amp;guest=1">View

    My Stats</a>

    [/CODE]







    A while ago, I created a website for a friend -- the purpose was to view the site through an aggregator app.



    You can see a brief overview promotional of the app here:



    http://web.me.com/dicklacara/ForWeb/uPhone%203d.mov







    The 5 parts of the site can be viewed here



    The app has five major sections:

    -- news: http://web.me.com/dicklacara/Sheena1

    -- events; http://web.me.com/dicklacara/Sheena2

    -- music videos: http://web.me.com/dicklacara/Sheena

    -- specials: http://web.me.com/dicklacara/Sheena3

    -- photos: http://web.me.com/dicklacara/Sheena4





    Each of the 5 sections above is represented by a tab on the iPhone app. When the app loads it access the web site to get the list of individual items in each section, for example: news items.



    When you select an item the web is accessed again to retrieve the detail for that particular item, for example the details of an upcoming event.



    In the case of media, it is not downloaded, rather it is streamed from the web.





    The point of all this is: I put a counter on the main "News" web page that gets hit every time you access it from a browser:



    http://web.me.com/dicklacara/Sheena1





    Not only that, if you place the html at the beginning of the page (as recommended) it will get hit on a partial load -- then get hit again if you stall andr reload.





    Conversely, when you access it from an app the counter never gets hit.





    Noteworthy:



    -- this site and app were designed over 2 years ago - with no thought for page counts

    -- there are far superior analytics for measuring apps than simple page hit counts





    IMO, these stats do not reflect the way an iOS app would access the web -- you would not get any hits unless the site was specifically designed for browser use. Things like apps (above), RSS feeds, Web Services, etc., would not show up at all.





    I have no experience with BBs, but from what others have said there are few apps. In recent years, Rim phone browsers have improved, so I would expect a steady growth as the install base increases and the browser usability improves.



    At the same time iOS and Android have shown explosive growth -- yet their browser hits (to this analytic's sites), not so much. I suspect that the main reason is that iOS and Android (to a lesser degree) are using specialized or aggregator apps that to not trigger html page hit counts.



    ... there's an (whole lotta') app for that!





    Finally, I can think of several ways that the stats can be spoofed or unrealistically reports.



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  • Reply 91 of 114
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alma View Post


    But he also said that third-party apps are unnecessary on the iPhone because of rich web apps.



    I don't know what to believe anymore.



    Yes, because people should never, ever revise their opinions once they have been originally stated, even if the situation changes and new facts are available. Obviously the first thing he said is the complete and utter truth for all time, everything after that was a lie.
  • Reply 92 of 114
    Its because of one app, BBM is why young people have it.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    I keep reading about how Nokia is dominant internationally, including here in the UK, but I just don't see it anymore. I used to see Nokias everywhere, but for the past few years it's been all Blackberrys and iPhones, with a rare Android sighting.



    It's interesting though that Blackberry, which isn't really even a smart phone, is still so popular. Those things are everywhere here, and not just with men in suits, I see a lot of young women with them too.



  • Reply 93 of 114
    rainrain Posts: 538member
    By the sounds of it here, RIM is DOOOOOOMED



    Here in Vancouver and Canada in general, BB is still more prevalent on the street when one is looking close. Keep in mind that the iPhone 4 in particular, stands out more then any other phone. So when you see one, you notice it more.



    Also keep in mind that in Canada, our carriers lock us in to 3 year contracts... with pain of death if you try and leave early or update your phone. Next year, when people's contracts are up (people who couldn't wait for iphone release), that's when the Canadian stats will be a little more interesting. Remember, we didn't get the iPhone here until 2 years after the US launch.



    I've played with a Torch. It's ok. I find the tiny keypads useless. Web browsing was a gigajillion times better then their old phones that were pretty much impossible, however, still prefer iOS. Speeds did seem faster on the BB.

    Was startled by Android and how cool the GUI was and some of the features. Choppy at times thou, and that's something I refuse to deal with.



    I would have to say that they all have their strengths that stand above the others, but I would have to say at present, iOS is the best all round experience and most refined.



    I haven't seen the software BB and Droid use to sync with desktops? Anyone know if they are any good or crap? iTunes is getting bloated, but at least it's simple.
  • Reply 94 of 114
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    This is strange! Look at this article based on stats from the same company (StatCounter) and another:



    http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/2...loping-nation/









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    Wha????????



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  • Reply 95 of 114
    rf9rf9 Posts: 70member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wurm5150 View Post


    My guess is iOS users are spending more time on apps than web browsing.. I know I do. Stuff I'm looking at are ones I could've used the web to look up but I'm using an app instead to get it (news, sports, fb, etc).



    I totally agree. That and 200MB data plans discourage use of the web.
  • Reply 96 of 114
    justflybobjustflybob Posts: 1,337member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alma View Post


    What does being Irish have to do with your accusations that they are liars? Are you saying that Irish people are liars in general?



    Nah. Just a bunch of blarney.
  • Reply 97 of 114
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  • Reply 98 of 114
    successsuccess Posts: 1,039member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alma View Post


    What does being Irish have to do with your accusations that they are liars? Are you saying that Irish people are liars in general?



    Irish are magically delicious!
  • Reply 99 of 114
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by success View Post


    Irish are magically delicious!



    "Are you havin' a laugh?"



    I did. Thanks, I needed that.
  • Reply 100 of 114
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hittrj01 View Post


    He also said that they would be able to develop apps that worked as well as apps already on the phone, so he contradicted himself in the same speech! I love my Apple products and follow the company probably a little too closely, so don't take these posts as troll-ish, but Steve does have a way of bashing or dismissing something and then coming back with a better version of said thing a little while later. Maybe we should just expect Apple to release anything they specifically say they don't like. (Hello, bigger screen on the iPhone 5!!! )



    and hello Flash !!

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