Good luck to them. I went to a presentation at the main campus a couple of months ago, and that seemed reasonably nice, but driving around Cupertino and seeing some of the buildings they are using, they really don't seem befitting of such a successful company.
i usually can't stand the people who nit-pick the grammar of stories here, but as an architect i know for certain that Foster + Partners are not BUILDING the campus - they're designing it, so this headline is wrong.
may seem like a little thing, but it's as big as "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China"
Will the new campus be "Made in China", "Assembled in Cupertino"?
most of fosters work is 'bucky fuller builds a green house'
Huh. So not very knowledgable about architecture or "Bucky Fuller", I guess.
However, were Buckminster Fuller to build a greenhouse, one thing that we might be sure of is that it would be environmentally sustainable.
Since your very next comment complains about lack of environmental ssensitivity, it would appear you're just sort of throwing out random snark because, I dunno, that's all you know how to do?
i usually can't stand the people who nit-pick the grammar of stories here, but as an architect i know for certain that Foster + Partners are not BUILDING the campus - they're designing it, so this headline is wrong.
Don't feel too badly, that's a pet peeve of mine too. I haven't seen too many architects swinging hammers either.
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Huh. So not very knowledgable about architecture or "Bucky Fuller", I guess.
However, were Buckminster Fuller to build a greenhouse, one thing that we might be sure of is that it would be environmentally sustainable.
Since your very next comment complains about lack of environmental ssensitivity, it would appear you're just sort of throwing out random snark because, I dunno, that's all you know how to do?
Fuller wasn't really an architect, he was an industrial designer and all-around theoretician. His one real contribution to the field of architecture was the geodesic dome, which was an outgrowth of his ideas about structure. I heard him lecture a couple of times. It was wild. He was all over the place, nearly impossible to follow. One thing I remember him saying was that architects don't design buildings, bankers design buildings.
Such a shame that a company of the future choses an architect from the past. BTW it's not very likely that Sir Norman himself will make the design or be even responsible for the design...
Underground tunnels are a great way to keep the world above green and populated with trees and shrubs.
www.boxculvert.com seems to be one way underground tunnels could be constructed and installed in a quick manner speeding up construction.
I think this project sounds great and I am going to have to read me some more information on the car-less city mentioned.
Such a shame that a company of the future choses an architect from the past. BTW it's not very likely that Sir Norman himself will make the design or be even responsible for the design...
So are you suggesting Apple should have used only an unproven architecture student?
The publication also said that transit on Apple's new headquarters will be accomplished through a network of tunnels, allowing the surface areas to remain green.
Fuller wasn't really an architect, he was an industrial designer and all-around theoretician. His one real contribution to the field of architecture was the geodesic dome, which was an outgrowth of his ideas about structure. I heard him lecture a couple of times. It was wild. He was all over the place, nearly impossible to follow. One thing I remember him saying was that architects don't design buildings, bankers design buildings.
Right, I wouldn't make any claims for the architectural esthetics of a Fuller designed greenhouse (or its practicality functioning as same), but we can be sure that he would be keenly sensitive to matters of efficiency, energy use and (were he designing things today) what we currently think of as "sustainability" (as per his Wichita House and other 'Dymaxion' designs, crazy ass unlivable tinkerer's pipe-dream though they may otherwise be).
But more generally my point was that "Bucky Fuller designs a greenhouse" is nonsensical in several directions.
if steve jobs didn't live in california and i'm certain he doesn't want to move, california would be one of the worst places to live. no matter how close it is to silicon valley. a bankrupt state that's choking on pelosi style politicians. not an attractive work environment.
north carolina would have been a lot more friendly and closer to nyc for a little culture.
The concept has a ring of Disney about it, especially the subterranean access and emphasis on the looks above ground. I wonder if there will be a public element to this. It would be nice to visit Apple City, maybe a ride or two for us big kids
I did enjoy the presentation by Walt on the original EPCOT concept. I don't know if it would have worked out, but at least he had a visionary concept, and the drive to make it work died with him. The current theme park pales in comparison with the original concept.
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Don't feel too badly, that's a pet peeve of mine too. I haven't seen too many architects swinging hammers either.
It seems deeply ingrained. I recall in a college art history class where a presentation said a certain Pharaoh "built" a certain pyramid. I doubt any of them had handled limestone in any significant capacity or even made a single drawing.
a Fuller designed greenhouse (or its practicality functioning as same), but we can be sure that he would be keenly sensitive to matters of efficiency, energy use
?The Growing Dome Greenhouse is a working model of the wisdom, practicality and well being that is the foundation of a sustainable lifestyle. Developed for the harsh climate of the Rocky Mountains, our Growing Dome greenhousesare available in eight sizes and can produce fresh vegetables, fruits and flowers year round!
?Because of its seven unique features, the Growing Dome greenhouse, if heated for tropical plants, uses only 1/3 of the amount of heat needed by a regular greenhouse. As a result, the Growing Dome dramatically reduces our environmental footprint. At the same time, they provide the optimal environment for growing fresh, organic and nutritious vegetables, herbs and fruits throughout the year.?
Huh. So not very knowledgable about architecture or "Bucky Fuller", I guess.
However, were Buckminster Fuller to build a greenhouse, one thing that we might be sure of is that it would be environmentally sustainable.
Since your very next comment complains about lack of environmental ssensitivity, it would appear you're just sort of throwing out random snark because, I dunno, that's all you know how to do?
if you understood design-wise what i was talking about you might get it. i never mentioned sustainability.
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i usually can't stand the people who nit-pick the grammar of stories here, but as an architect i know for certain that Foster + Partners are not BUILDING the campus - they're designing it, so this headline is wrong.
may seem like a little thing, but it's as big as "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China"
Will the new campus be "Made in China", "Assembled in Cupertino"?
most of fosters work is 'bucky fuller builds a green house'
Huh. So not very knowledgable about architecture or "Bucky Fuller", I guess.
However, were Buckminster Fuller to build a greenhouse, one thing that we might be sure of is that it would be environmentally sustainable.
Since your very next comment complains about lack of environmental ssensitivity, it would appear you're just sort of throwing out random snark because, I dunno, that's all you know how to do?
Will the new campus be "Made in China", "Assembled in Cupertino"?
"Designed by Foster + Partners, Built by Swinerton Incorporated"
or Bechtel Group, or DPR Construction, or similar.
That's certainly a new (old) twist.
This could be the subject of endless jokes.
i usually can't stand the people who nit-pick the grammar of stories here, but as an architect i know for certain that Foster + Partners are not BUILDING the campus - they're designing it, so this headline is wrong.
Don't feel too badly, that's a pet peeve of mine too. I haven't seen too many architects swinging hammers either.
Huh. So not very knowledgable about architecture or "Bucky Fuller", I guess.
However, were Buckminster Fuller to build a greenhouse, one thing that we might be sure of is that it would be environmentally sustainable.
Since your very next comment complains about lack of environmental ssensitivity, it would appear you're just sort of throwing out random snark because, I dunno, that's all you know how to do?
Fuller wasn't really an architect, he was an industrial designer and all-around theoretician. His one real contribution to the field of architecture was the geodesic dome, which was an outgrowth of his ideas about structure. I heard him lecture a couple of times. It was wild. He was all over the place, nearly impossible to follow. One thing I remember him saying was that architects don't design buildings, bankers design buildings.
Such a shame that a company of the future choses an architect from the past. BTW it's not very likely that Sir Norman himself will make the design or be even responsible for the design...
Underground tunnels are a great way to keep the world above green and populated with trees and shrubs.
www.boxculvert.com seems to be one way underground tunnels could be constructed and installed in a quick manner speeding up construction.
I think this project sounds great and I am going to have to read me some more information on the car-less city mentioned.
Such a shame that a company of the future choses an architect from the past. BTW it's not very likely that Sir Norman himself will make the design or be even responsible for the design...
So are you suggesting Apple should have used only an unproven architecture student?
In a related development, Apple has figured out what to do with their billions of dollars of cash.
LOL, made my day.
The publication also said that transit on Apple's new headquarters will be accomplished through a network of tunnels, allowing the surface areas to remain green.
I hope that it turns out better than this:
http://www.fosterandpartners.com/Pro...8/Default.aspx
Fuller wasn't really an architect, he was an industrial designer and all-around theoretician. His one real contribution to the field of architecture was the geodesic dome, which was an outgrowth of his ideas about structure. I heard him lecture a couple of times. It was wild. He was all over the place, nearly impossible to follow. One thing I remember him saying was that architects don't design buildings, bankers design buildings.
Right, I wouldn't make any claims for the architectural esthetics of a Fuller designed greenhouse (or its practicality functioning as same), but we can be sure that he would be keenly sensitive to matters of efficiency, energy use and (were he designing things today) what we currently think of as "sustainability" (as per his Wichita House and other 'Dymaxion' designs, crazy ass unlivable tinkerer's pipe-dream though they may otherwise be).
But more generally my point was that "Bucky Fuller designs a greenhouse" is nonsensical in several directions.
north carolina would have been a lot more friendly and closer to nyc for a little culture.
The concept has a ring of Disney about it, especially the subterranean access and emphasis on the looks above ground. I wonder if there will be a public element to this. It would be nice to visit Apple City, maybe a ride or two for us big kids
I did enjoy the presentation by Walt on the original EPCOT concept. I don't know if it would have worked out, but at least he had a visionary concept, and the drive to make it work died with him. The current theme park pales in comparison with the original concept.
Don't feel too badly, that's a pet peeve of mine too. I haven't seen too many architects swinging hammers either.
It seems deeply ingrained. I recall in a college art history class where a presentation said a certain Pharaoh "built" a certain pyramid. I doubt any of them had handled limestone in any significant capacity or even made a single drawing.
a Fuller designed greenhouse (or its practicality functioning as same), but we can be sure that he would be keenly sensitive to matters of efficiency, energy use
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From the Growing Spaces?s website:
?The Growing Dome Greenhouse is a working model of the wisdom, practicality and well being that is the foundation of a sustainable lifestyle. Developed for the harsh climate of the Rocky Mountains, our Growing Dome greenhousesare available in eight sizes and can produce fresh vegetables, fruits and flowers year round!
?Because of its seven unique features, the Growing Dome greenhouse, if heated for tropical plants, uses only 1/3 of the amount of heat needed by a regular greenhouse. As a result, the Growing Dome dramatically reduces our environmental footprint. At the same time, they provide the optimal environment for growing fresh, organic and nutritious vegetables, herbs and fruits throughout the year.?
Great looking building. I assume it folds up at night when not in use
Best comment of 2010?
Huh. So not very knowledgable about architecture or "Bucky Fuller", I guess.
However, were Buckminster Fuller to build a greenhouse, one thing that we might be sure of is that it would be environmentally sustainable.
Since your very next comment complains about lack of environmental ssensitivity, it would appear you're just sort of throwing out random snark because, I dunno, that's all you know how to do?
if you understood design-wise what i was talking about you might get it. i never mentioned sustainability.
if you understood design-wise what i was talking about you might get it. i never mentioned sustainability.
So your conception of "having a sense of nature" is simply esthetics?
"Designed by Foster + Partners, Built by Swinerton Incorporated"
or Bechtel Group, or DPR Construction, or similar.
More like Conceived by Foster + Partners, Designed by Gensler, MEP by WSP Flack + Kurtz... not sure who to pick for Structures.
I'd give Turner a chance at building it too though.