I try to print at least one thing a year just to make sure the printer is still working correctly. My wife and daughter however keep the toner companies in business.
Funny!
I have, what I thought at the time, was a beautiful Brother MFC-795CW...$99 on sale, small footprint, wireless, color "touch" screen, all-in-one, a boatload of ink from Amazon for 10% of what OfficeMax and Target charge.
And I hardly use it.
Maybe to print some directions to a restaurant or something...but, I'm about to buy a Garmin for the car. I thought my iPhone 4 would be good for GPS but it's too small and keeps turning off...
PS. I have the printer in my closet (plugged in) and b/c it's wireless, I don't have to stare at it all day!
The addition of six new printers makes a total of 18 printers from HP that are now compatible with AirPrint. Five existing printers offer AirPrint functionality out of the box, while another seven had previously released firmware updates that added the ability to print from iOS 4.2.
Does anyone know where I can find the complete listing of the 18 compatible printers?
Wow, you really are retro! Other than the boarding pass all else I keep on a MacBookPro or an iPad and iPhone. It sounds like you don't trust your backup protocols.
I rarely print, but I do have a need sometimes. If I'm on my phone and come across something I need to print, it would be nice to just hit print rather than firing up a computer. It's just a convenience issue. If printing were dead then printer sales would be dead too. Seems like printers are very much alive.
I was quite impressed what American Airlines offered me that option - where your boarding card was a QIR Code. I was surprised that it took them that long. But, the problem was that by the time I got to the gate, for some reason I lost access to it and had to fall back to my paper version.
Air New Zealand have a nice little free app that you can use to get onto the plane if you have no baggage. If you do have baggage you can use the code to check in your luggage on the self service kiosks. Much faster than queuing up!
I was always petrified I would lose my printed out boarding card etc, but now it is all electronic there are no worries.
No, we don't have Gate Rape here in Godzone like you poor folk in America. I can't understand how people can stomach the TSA...
It would be nice if they let us use printers that people actually buy and use. No one is going to buy a useless colour inkjet printer or a multi-function device just to use AirPrint.
These are all cheap consumer printers with a life expectancy shorter than that of the cartridges they use. The majority of HP's business is serious laser printers for office use, but still none of those work with AirPrint.
Good points you made there.
I would even go a little further: Instead of bringing out myriads of new printer models,
why can't HP do a serious job and update the firmware of perfectly capable existing printers to include Airprint capability? HP often has been paying little attention to the maintenance of printer firmware for printers once they are out in the field. Why not concentrate on only a few models, for which you can buy upgrades in firmware(*). Imagine how much storage space HP could save having a leaner distribution channel. (Shh... careful... what if other manufacturers came up with such a more efficient strategy first?)
The possible objection that HP is in the business of selling new printers doesn't hold much water, since a set of *full* cartridges (be they for ink jet of for laserjet) tends to cost more than a new printer (less development costs etc.). The decision to buy a new printer should only be based on printer malfunction.
Oh wait,
HP you can score ecological points by allowing people to *keep* their printer and to buy print cartridges instead
(*) For those who like roaming the store shelves, you could even market the firmware add-ons in a tiny box containing a new *skin* (or set of flashy stickers showing the new capabilities) for the printer, in addition to a CD or USB stick with the firmware add-on.
I don't understand why they're only doing that for their inkjets so far. I only use an inkjet for very specific circumstances, and I avoid the all-in-one type device because they don't seem to do anything very well. I print a lot for my business, I think of it as a courtesy to provide a receipt and instructions with my product. But regular consumers shouldn't need to print very often. I recall that printing from iOS was on a lot of wish lists, I don't think it's in my top five.
Because the printer MUST support the language.
Inkjets don't really have a printer language like PCL or PS, they are pretty much just RAW images, in fact they pretty much just print images instead of text and the like. In many respects this is better than the stupid way PS and PCL works because an image prints no matter what font or photo and all that but it also means the print jobs are ridiculously massive.
Ever printed a PDF to an inkjet and seen the file go from 10KB to 6MB? That's essentially what happens on an inkjet. This does happen on lasers but it's mostly the printer that does the work not the PC and therefore that 10KB job gets sent to the printer and the printer makes the 6MB file.
Seriously, having seen what happens to a print job to an inkjet printer because they print to Citrix which sends the job to the Citrix print queue which converts it to the image which then gets sent back to the printer over a 1/2Mb link between Auckland and Wellington I hope HP, Epson, Kyocera, etc get on board and create a laser version of AirPrint but until then it's only inkjet because the printers don't have a language to worry about.
I can only assume you are just Trolling, unless you work for a magical company
Neither. The only things I print any more are airline e-tickets, only once or twice a year. I really think Apple's limited resources should be spent on something better than improving the printing experience, or they will get it perfect just in time for the last person to retire their printer. You mention corporations but surely they would mostly have wired printers?
Neither. The only things I print any more are airline e-tickets, only once or twice a year. I really think Apple's limited resources should be spent on something better than improving the printing experience, or they will get it perfect just in time for the last person to retire their printer. You mention corporations but surely they would mostly have wired printers?
I don't know about those printers, but my wired network printer can be used wirelessly because I have an access point on the network.
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Originally Posted by lowededwookie
Because the printer MUST support the language.
Inkjets don't really have a printer language like PCL or PS, they are pretty much just RAW images, in fact they pretty much just print images instead of text and the like. In many respects this is better than the stupid way PS and PCL works because an image prints no matter what font or photo and all that but it also means the print jobs are ridiculously massive.
So there aren't any equivalent modes in lasers? Or a way to wrap a full-page raster into PCL? It would seem to me that it would be well worth getting a PCL and PS out anyway, because it's very commonly used.
It would be nice if they let us use printers that people actually buy and use. No one is going to buy a useless colour inkjet printer or a multi-function device just to use AirPrint.
These are all cheap consumer printers with a life expectancy shorter than that of the cartridges they use. The majority of HP's business is serious laser printers for office use, but still none of those work with AirPrint.
I agree. Wake me up when I can print to my HP Laserjet printer...
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I try to print at least one thing a year just to make sure the printer is still working correctly. My wife and daughter however keep the toner companies in business.
Funny!
I have, what I thought at the time, was a beautiful Brother MFC-795CW...$99 on sale, small footprint, wireless, color "touch" screen, all-in-one, a boatload of ink from Amazon for 10% of what OfficeMax and Target charge.
And I hardly use it.
Maybe to print some directions to a restaurant or something...but, I'm about to buy a Garmin for the car. I thought my iPhone 4 would be good for GPS but it's too small and keeps turning off...
PS. I have the printer in my closet (plugged in) and b/c it's wireless, I don't have to stare at it all day!
Best and Happy Holidays to everyone out there!
The addition of six new printers makes a total of 18 printers from HP that are now compatible with AirPrint. Five existing printers offer AirPrint functionality out of the box, while another seven had previously released firmware updates that added the ability to print from iOS 4.2.
Does anyone know where I can find the complete listing of the 18 compatible printers?
Wow, you really are retro! Other than the boarding pass all else I keep on a MacBookPro or an iPad and iPhone. It sounds like you don't trust your backup protocols.
I rarely print, but I do have a need sometimes. If I'm on my phone and come across something I need to print, it would be nice to just hit print rather than firing up a computer. It's just a convenience issue. If printing were dead then printer sales would be dead too. Seems like printers are very much alive.
I was quite impressed what American Airlines offered me that option - where your boarding card was a QIR Code. I was surprised that it took them that long. But, the problem was that by the time I got to the gate, for some reason I lost access to it and had to fall back to my paper version.
Air New Zealand have a nice little free app that you can use to get onto the plane if you have no baggage. If you do have baggage you can use the code to check in your luggage on the self service kiosks. Much faster than queuing up!
I was always petrified I would lose my printed out boarding card etc, but now it is all electronic there are no worries.
No, we don't have Gate Rape here in Godzone like you poor folk in America. I can't understand how people can stomach the TSA...
It would be nice if they let us use printers that people actually buy and use. No one is going to buy a useless colour inkjet printer or a multi-function device just to use AirPrint.
These are all cheap consumer printers with a life expectancy shorter than that of the cartridges they use. The majority of HP's business is serious laser printers for office use, but still none of those work with AirPrint.
Good points you made there.
I would even go a little further: Instead of bringing out myriads of new printer models,
why can't HP do a serious job and update the firmware of perfectly capable existing printers to include Airprint capability? HP often has been paying little attention to the maintenance of printer firmware for printers once they are out in the field. Why not concentrate on only a few models, for which you can buy upgrades in firmware(*). Imagine how much storage space HP could save having a leaner distribution channel. (Shh... careful... what if other manufacturers came up with such a more efficient strategy first?)
The possible objection that HP is in the business of selling new printers doesn't hold much water, since a set of *full* cartridges (be they for ink jet of for laserjet) tends to cost more than a new printer (less development costs etc.). The decision to buy a new printer should only be based on printer malfunction.
Oh wait,
HP you can score ecological points by allowing people to *keep* their printer and to buy print cartridges instead
(*) For those who like roaming the store shelves, you could even market the firmware add-ons in a tiny box containing a new *skin* (or set of flashy stickers showing the new capabilities) for the printer, in addition to a CD or USB stick with the firmware add-on.
It worked like a charm, including borderless printing. Great!
I have just installed the firmware update on my Officejet Pro 8500A and tested AirPrint using my business card printing app "KaiCards".
It worked like a charm, including borderless printing. Great!
How did you do that? I am still struggling to just find any relevant firmware on HPs wonderful website.
How did you do that? I am still struggling to just find any relevant firmware on HPs wonderful website.
Directly on the printer's touch display:
I don't understand why they're only doing that for their inkjets so far. I only use an inkjet for very specific circumstances, and I avoid the all-in-one type device because they don't seem to do anything very well. I print a lot for my business, I think of it as a courtesy to provide a receipt and instructions with my product. But regular consumers shouldn't need to print very often. I recall that printing from iOS was on a lot of wish lists, I don't think it's in my top five.
Because the printer MUST support the language.
Inkjets don't really have a printer language like PCL or PS, they are pretty much just RAW images, in fact they pretty much just print images instead of text and the like. In many respects this is better than the stupid way PS and PCL works because an image prints no matter what font or photo and all that but it also means the print jobs are ridiculously massive.
Ever printed a PDF to an inkjet and seen the file go from 10KB to 6MB? That's essentially what happens on an inkjet. This does happen on lasers but it's mostly the printer that does the work not the PC and therefore that 10KB job gets sent to the printer and the printer makes the 6MB file.
Seriously, having seen what happens to a print job to an inkjet printer because they print to Citrix which sends the job to the Citrix print queue which converts it to the image which then gets sent back to the printer over a 1/2Mb link between Auckland and Wellington I hope HP, Epson, Kyocera, etc get on board and create a laser version of AirPrint but until then it's only inkjet because the printers don't have a language to worry about.
I can only assume you are just Trolling, unless you work for a magical company
Neither. The only things I print any more are airline e-tickets, only once or twice a year. I really think Apple's limited resources should be spent on something better than improving the printing experience, or they will get it perfect just in time for the last person to retire their printer. You mention corporations but surely they would mostly have wired printers?
Neither. The only things I print any more are airline e-tickets, only once or twice a year. I really think Apple's limited resources should be spent on something better than improving the printing experience, or they will get it perfect just in time for the last person to retire their printer. You mention corporations but surely they would mostly have wired printers?
I don't know about those printers, but my wired network printer can be used wirelessly because I have an access point on the network.
Because the printer MUST support the language.
Inkjets don't really have a printer language like PCL or PS, they are pretty much just RAW images, in fact they pretty much just print images instead of text and the like. In many respects this is better than the stupid way PS and PCL works because an image prints no matter what font or photo and all that but it also means the print jobs are ridiculously massive.
So there aren't any equivalent modes in lasers? Or a way to wrap a full-page raster into PCL? It would seem to me that it would be well worth getting a PCL and PS out anyway, because it's very commonly used.
It would be nice if they let us use printers that people actually buy and use. No one is going to buy a useless colour inkjet printer or a multi-function device just to use AirPrint.
These are all cheap consumer printers with a life expectancy shorter than that of the cartridges they use. The majority of HP's business is serious laser printers for office use, but still none of those work with AirPrint.
I agree. Wake me up when I can print to my HP Laserjet printer...