iPad tops Mossberg's list of best reviewed products of 2010

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  • Reply 21 of 63
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    Originally Posted by Carl Johnson View Post




    Apple cares first and foremost about margins. And design allows Apple to overcharge for underspeced devices. The Apple Mac Pro is a perfect example for an overpriced device. Even the top of the line video card has just 1 GB, compare this for example with a Dell XPS 9100





    All I can say is I hope you don't actually produce products. If you value design as worthless - which is what your comments imply- you represent the archetype of why we get crappy products, like Google TV. For 99% of the use of most of today's electronics tech-specs are trivially important compared to design of the product - UI, UX, form, etc. Design adds more value than specs and Apple proves this over and over with their profit margins.
  • Reply 22 of 63
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    Originally Posted by tundraboy View Post


    Google needs to hire one guy who is not an engineer whose job will be to say "Guys, this product sucks" whenever an actual, prototype, or proposed Google product sucks. Then, Google of course has to listen. This will help improve Google's products a million fold.



    Not a bad thought, but I think every company could use one of those. At Apple, it just seems that people like Steve Jobs and Scott Forstall *are* those guys. And Richard Branson has said he does that at Virgin. It needs to just be built into the company that when something sucks, people need to speak up and the higher ups need to accept it and start again.
  • Reply 23 of 63
    kolchakkolchak Posts: 1,398member
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    Originally Posted by Carl Johnson View Post


    I am not sure what 'AirPlay' is supposed to be... I guess it should read AirPrint.



    It astonishes me that a full decade into the 21st century, some people continue to embarrass themselves by flaunting ignorance instead of spending a few seconds first with this obscure little tool called "Google."



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    The antenna controversy is another sad sign that Apple prefers design instead of usability.



    You may want to talk to HTC about that. Something else that Google can teach you.
  • Reply 24 of 63
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    I won't quote the entire load of junk you wrote but talk about old, rehashed troll talking points! At least try finding some new rubbish



    Well let's face it, the Dell streak is an 5" Android phone, not so much what we define as a tablet. He got that wrong. Calling it the worst product is stretching it. On Anandtech they reviewed it favorably. It has sucky wifi performance though, and "suffers" from the bigger screen issue, like 5 is that much bigger than a 4.3, sheesh.
  • Reply 25 of 63
    sheffsheff Posts: 1,407member
    I think el Jobso meant put the setup box inside the tv, which Sony already did, but this did not take off because of comcast and content providers. Now with comcast msnbc deal it looks even less likely that google will succeed.



    That said apple already has many content deals in place, all we need is a real apple tv, that is actually a tv.
  • Reply 26 of 63
    tbelltbell Posts: 3,146member
    It isn't going to be something worth buying because Google is learning what Apple has already learned. Namely, content providers aren't going to give Google a free ride on their content. Apple TV actually solves a problem. It allows people to get content from their computer and other iOS devices and show it on their TVs. A bonus is you can now watch Netflix as well.



    Google will have a hard time competing there because Microsoft is the backbone for content protection from Netflix. I wonder the likely hood Microsoft will help Android out. Google was hoping it could just find all the free TV shows on the Internet, index it, and show it. Not going to happen without paying the content providers dollars.





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    Originally Posted by dagamer34 View Post


    The sooner GoogleTV crashes and burns, the sooner Google can redesign the product to be something worth buying.



    The next frontier is not working with cable companies, it's replacing them. It's better to wait on the sidelines until that time comes.



  • Reply 27 of 63
    tbelltbell Posts: 3,146member
    You seem to think Design is merely about the way something looks. Instead, it is also about the way something operates. Setting aside your under specked device comment, which I can take apart if I cared to take the time, go look inside the Mac Pro and Dell tower. The Mac Pro is superior in every way.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carl Johnson View Post




    Apple cares first and foremost about margins. And design allows Apple to overcharge for underspeced devices. The Apple Mac Pro is a perfect example for an overpriced device. Even the top of the line video card has just 1 GB, compare this for example with a Dell XPS 9100



  • Reply 28 of 63
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    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post


    Flash no matter how hard Adobe tries to fix this broken beast, it has lost that window and will become a relic.



    There was a story here a few days ago about the porn industry switching from flash to html 5. That is the nail in the coffin for flash. Game over. Just like VHS/beta, blu-ray/hddvd, when the porn industry takes sides, it's over. You should have seen the look on the girls face at best buy when I said this. She was speechless.
  • Reply 29 of 63
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    I agree with the posts above...Google always seems in a rush and only ends up providing crap, just like MS used to do! ...



    That's because Google doesn't care a bit about quality. Like Microsoft, for whom "good enough" was always the mantra (and very liberally interpreted by them), Google just wants to dump free stuff into markets that is good enough to destroy that market as one in which companies can profitably compete based on quality. The goal is to get everyone using the low quality, but free, stuff, by sucking the oxygen out of the market for everyone else, so Google can collect personal data, control access to information, serve ads and, increasingly, to steer people to other Google services where the vicious cycle repeats.



    This is also why Apple is one of the few companies that is able to effectively compete against Google. Apple's philosophy is exactly opposite: create innovative high quality products that are easy to use, and that stay at least a step or two ahead of the junkware that companies like Google and Dell put out. That Apple does compete effectively against these companies is a testament to just how much better their products and user experience are.



    Like Microsoft, Google is not and never has been a creative company. They both used a single product, DOS/Windows and Search, respectively, to leverage themselves into other markets. But their strategy in those markets is not to produce fantastically great products, it's to produce "good enough" products, dumped on the market, and to destroy those markets for others.
  • Reply 30 of 63
    James Coney Island needs to pop their heads out of their butts and change their site from flash to HTML5.
  • Reply 31 of 63
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    Originally Posted by dagamer34 View Post


    The sooner GoogleTV crashes and burns, the sooner Google can redesign the product to be something worth buying.



    The next frontier is not working with cable companies, it's replacing them. It's better to wait on the sidelines until that time comes.



    I think Apple should partner with a cable provider and not compete with them. Imagine if they partnered with AT&T U-verse and designed their box and UI... I think that is what is needed in order to slowly redefine Television.
  • Reply 32 of 63
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    Originally Posted by RayInHou View Post


    I think Apple should partner with a cable provider and not compete with them. Imagine if they partnered with AT&T U-verse and designed their box and UI... I think that is what is needed in order to slowly redefine Television.



    Good points...how about partnering with a SatTV provider....(Cable is so regional)?



    Think about it, who in their right mind thinks that digging and running a cable to every household is a viable business model?



    I would get satTV in a minute, if Apple was involved...I agree with the previous poster. F the cable companies and work around them....



    Anyone know, can you get internet from Sat providers?



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  • Reply 33 of 63
    eriamjheriamjh Posts: 1,120member
    Mossberg hated everything Apple until recently. Now that he praises them, he's not a troll?
  • Reply 34 of 63
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    Think about it, who in their right mind thinks that digging and running a cable to every household is a viable business model?



    The electric utilities. Without them we wouldn't be having this conversation.
  • Reply 35 of 63
    Dude's opinion is totally closed minded. I will be honest. People choose a device and base it on their needs and preferences. As a device i say the dell streak is no where near the worse and the iphone 4 is no where near the best. If a device doesnt work like it is supposed to then it is not the better than a perfectly working device. I will defend the streak because it is not a competitor to the ipad. The ipad is a tablet (giant 3rd gen ipod touch) while the streak is a hybrid between a phone a mini tablet. They both do as they are intended to do and with the froyo update to the streak and the OS4.2 update for the ipad they are both better devices than they started off as. As far as the iphone 4 and the samsung galaxy s being the best phones of 2010, Mossburg is out of his mind. A phone with a crummy antenna and another phone with a crummy gps is shouldn't be classified as number one and number two. I think he is basing his thought on the displays and the processors. I say as a phone the best phone of 2010 was the htc evo 4g. I'm not on sprints network either but the phone works as it was designed and does it well. Mr.Mossburg needs to understand that being biased isn't the best kind of news. Being honest and leaving personal opinion out is the best way.
  • Reply 36 of 63
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    Mossberg hated everything Apple until recently. Now that he praises them, he's not a troll?



    Uh, no. Walt Mossberg has been one of Apple's biggest fans since the Earth's crust cooled.
  • Reply 37 of 63
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    The electric utilities. Without them we wouldn't be having this conversation.



    Agreed...but SatTV is more viable for TV transmission than digging a ditch for every inch of cable! No?



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  • Reply 38 of 63
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    Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post


    Uh, no. Walt Mossberg has been one of Apple's biggest fans since the Earth's crust cooled.



    Agreed. Mossberg, to me was always like Consumer Reports and never really cottoned to Apple until recently that is. Thankfully I've been using Apple products since 1990 and didn't really read Mossberg until recently, that is.



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  • Reply 39 of 63
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
    At least this is better list than Time's.
  • Reply 40 of 63
    I agree with him!
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