Yeah why would you even attempt to compare the abilities of a dual core desktop processor to an ARM SOC.
ARM chips are built for extreme constraint in size and efficiency. Their is little need to worry about size or efficiency for desktop chips.
The soon to be released tegra2 has as much GPU power as the xbox360.
But it shouldn't take a dual core CPU just to download faster than 29KBps. That really isn't a CPU intensive task. If you can with the chipset on a mp3 player write 5MB of data a second onto a phone via usb, why not even get remotely close on wifi?
On second thought however, maybe if we tested w/o AES encryption...I'd like to see that and then draw a conclusion.
This has totally blindsided Apple. Apple was expecting competitors to stick with 3G for at least 7 years, but it looks like the other side is trying to move on to the next big technology standard. Apple will now have to go back to the drawing board to stay competitive. (However, it looks like they'll be at least 2 years behind because they didn't except to ever happen.)
Apple engineers hadn't even considered anything past 3G, but now with this news it looks like they will have to go back into the office and work on upgrading the iPhone. So much for those long vacations they were hoping on taking.
I wonder if the 21.1 Mbps (HSDPA Category 14) chips are as small and power efficient and as inexpensive as the 14.4Mbps (HSPDA Category 10) chips. With the current iPhone at 7.2Mbps (HSDPA Category 8) and HSDPA Cat 10 only becoming common at this month?s CES it may make more sense for Apple to support HSDPA Cat 10 this year and Cat 14 next year.
Yeah this pretty much is AT&T's biggest advantage over Verizon's iPhone. 21Mb totally kills Verizon's LTE and Sprint's WiMAX
AT&T has far more incentive than Apple to push for faster and more efficient HSDPA chips and deploy the faster network.
I guess we shall see.
Quote:
Originally Posted by solipsism
That?s killing Verizon?s LTE in every way.
I wonder if the 21.1 Mbps (HSDPA Category 14) chips are as small and power efficient and as inexpensive as the 14.4Mbps (HSPDA Category 10) chips. With the current iPhone at 7.2Mbps (HSDPA Category 8) and HSDPA Cat 10 only becoming common at this month?s CES it may make more sense for Apple to support HSDPA Cat 10 this year and Cat 14 next year.
Comments
ARM chips are built for extreme constraint in size and efficiency. Their is little need to worry about size or efficiency for desktop chips.
I doubt that is the reason. But if so then ARM has a long way to go...
Yeah why would you even attempt to compare the abilities of a dual core desktop processor to an ARM SOC.
ARM chips are built for extreme constraint in size and efficiency. Their is little need to worry about size or efficiency for desktop chips.
The soon to be released tegra2 has as much GPU power as the xbox360.
But it shouldn't take a dual core CPU just to download faster than 29KBps. That really isn't a CPU intensive task. If you can with the chipset on a mp3 player write 5MB of data a second onto a phone via usb, why not even get remotely close on wifi?
On second thought however, maybe if we tested w/o AES encryption...I'd like to see that and then draw a conclusion.
Oh no, the cat is out of the bag!
This has totally blindsided Apple. Apple was expecting competitors to stick with 3G for at least 7 years, but it looks like the other side is trying to move on to the next big technology standard. Apple will now have to go back to the drawing board to stay competitive. (However, it looks like they'll be at least 2 years behind because they didn't except to ever happen.)
Apple engineers hadn't even considered anything past 3G, but now with this news it looks like they will have to go back into the office and work on upgrading the iPhone. So much for those long vacations they were hoping on taking.
what the heck are you smoking?
what the heck are you smoking?
I think he forgot the <sarcasm> tag.
Yeah why would you even attempt to compare the abilities of a dual core desktop processor to an ARM SOC.
Because it changes the subject from demonstrable performance advantages on the iOS platform?
Apple didn't want that with the first iPhone and they didn't want OT with the first verizon iPhone.
It will sell millions as is. I can't wait to see comparisons of speed between the V and the AT&T phones in different markets.
Samsung Vibrant 4
So it looks like the iPhone 5 very well may have a HSPA+ 21Mb radio.
Samsung Vibrant 4
That?s killing Verizon?s LTE in every way.
I wonder if the 21.1 Mbps (HSDPA Category 14) chips are as small and power efficient and as inexpensive as the 14.4Mbps (HSPDA Category 10) chips. With the current iPhone at 7.2Mbps (HSDPA Category 8) and HSDPA Cat 10 only becoming common at this month?s CES it may make more sense for Apple to support HSDPA Cat 10 this year and Cat 14 next year.
AT&T has far more incentive than Apple to push for faster and more efficient HSDPA chips and deploy the faster network.
I guess we shall see.
That?s killing Verizon?s LTE in every way.
I wonder if the 21.1 Mbps (HSDPA Category 14) chips are as small and power efficient and as inexpensive as the 14.4Mbps (HSPDA Category 10) chips. With the current iPhone at 7.2Mbps (HSDPA Category 8) and HSDPA Cat 10 only becoming common at this month?s CES it may make more sense for Apple to support HSDPA Cat 10 this year and Cat 14 next year.