I never bought any, I did buy some Rolling Stones and some Sex Pistols.
I was never really into the Beatles, dissecting their songs in boring and compulsory school music classes destroyed any vestiges of appreciation I may have had.
To me "Oh bla di, oh bla da", represents the high point of their lyrical brilliance.
I have to ask, what what was the teacher's explanation for that line?
Think what you like, but compared to the Beatles's track record of sales this is simply average. After all, the band has had 26 certified multi-platinum albums (sales of 2 million), 41 platinum albums, and 47 certified gold albums. A grand slam would be something like 10 million albums. They may reach those numbers eventually, but it's probably a long way off since sales are apparently slowing.
Oh come on, this has to been seen in the context of 'absent the iTunes release' how many would they have sold here and now in 2010-2011?
Seriously? the Beatles are a good group and all, but who the heck is buying all this stuff? The individual songs, okay, I can see that; but the albums? I just can?t imagine that many people have been sitting around for the last seven years saying, ?You know, I really want to buy that Beatles album, but it?s not on iTunes, so I just won?t worry about it.? Or is it just a bunch of people who think it?s easier to spend $10-13 than to rip a CD they already own?
I?m really not trying to be difficult, here. I?ve just spent the last few weeks trying to understand it, and I haven?t come across a single person who has any more idea than I do.
I gather you haven't listened to a radio for quite awhile. Virtually every day, the Beatles are played by thousands of stations to millions of listeners. Some old, some young, some who never heard them before, some who want to hear them every day.
Much of the music that you were brought up on will be your music up to the day you die. Especially, the recordings you just had to buy. You will at some time in your future try to pass on in one manner or degree, even with force onto your children. Just like your parents did to you.
But think about it. Of those recordings that most of us have now, just how many are truly playable?
Just how many Beatles songs were only bought on 45's or LP's, 8-track or cassettes are still playable? Even CD's? Just how many people out there are even capable of transferring their collection to MP3 players, if they even could find them?
Keep in mind that most of the world's inhabitants never bought a Beatle song, never cared enough to go out of their way to hear them and probably never even cared to listen to them. Just like the Black Eyed Peas. In their generations or ever after.
But if the Black Eyed Peas were to become as infamous as the Beatles, there will be following generations that will be drawn to them as there are followers of Mozart, Brubeck and Elvis.
I seem to remember the claim being made here that everyone had them all already (that wanted them) and they'd never sell anything yada yada yada ... just goes to show SJ knows what he's doing yet again!
As their #1 fan, SJ probably bought 500,00 of them himself.
I gather you haven't listened to a radio for quite awhile. Virtually every day, the Beatles are played by thousands of stations to millions of listeners. Some old, some young, some who never heard them before, some who want to hear them every day.
Much of the music that you were brought up on will be your music up to the day you die. Especially, the recordings you just had to buy. You will at some time in your future try to pass on in one manner or degree, even with force onto your children. Just like your parents did to you.
But think about it. Of those recordings that most of us have now, just how many are truly playable?
Just how many Beatles songs were only bought on 45's or LP's, 8-track or cassettes are still playable? Even CD's? Just how many people out there are even capable of transferring their collection to MP3 players, if they even could find them?
Keep in mind that most of the world's inhabitants never bought a Beatle song, never cared enough to go out of their way to hear them and probably never even cared to listen to them. Just like the Black Eyed Peas. In their generations or ever after.
But if the Black Eyed Peas were to become as infamous as the Beatles, there will be following generations that will be drawn to them as there are followers of Mozart, Brubeck and Elvis.
Radio has gone in the toilet for a long time. For the most part, they call talent today wouldn't have received a deal back in the 60s/70s/80s.
It's a tribute to the Beatles talent and legacy for them to command such a demand.
Pink Floyd would produce similar results. Same with Queen.
I still don't get why it's so difficult to just trust the man's vision and expertise. If he knows his game, he knows his game. It isn't blindness, it's about track records.
I have to ask, what what was the teacher's explanation for that line?
I think that part was lost in drowsy, summer midafternoon reveries, like much of that particular teacher's monotone drone.
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I gather you haven't listened to a radio for quite awhile. Virtually every day, the Beatles are played by thousands of stations to millions of listeners. Some old, some young, some who never heard them before, some who want to hear them every day.
Not to mention the bland, electonic renditions often heard in elevators and shopping malls.
But if the Black Eyed Peas were to become as infamous as the Beatles, there will be following generations that will be drawn to them as there are followers of Mozart, Brubeck and Elvis.
The Black Eyed Peas will be forgotten in 2 to 3 years, whereas The Beatles will remain relevant for generations to come.
I've always been a big Beatles fan and I still have most of the LPs, the original CD releases, a few of the new stereo CDs and the mono box of CDs, but even I'm surprised at these high sales levels.
I was in the camp who thought that anyone who really wanted the Beatles would have bought them on CD and copied them to their MP3 player. But I think there's a whole generation of people who are never again going to buy a physical CD. Or, they have the CDs, but find it more convenient to download what they want, even though it's more expensive and inferior audio quality.
But I did think that it was important for Jobs to get the Beatles onto iTunes because without them, you could never claim that iTunes was comprehensive. It would be like having a classical music site without Mozart.
Anyways....I find these sales levels remarkable. Before the CD remasters, Beatles sales, while respectable for a group who had disbanded 40 years ago, had slowed to a trickle. Even the CD remasters didn't sell as much as people thought they would, although it's hard to find reliable sales numbers. They under-predicted the sales for the mono CD box, but the 2nd printing is still available everywhere.
As for the quality of the Beatles writing, IMO, it seems better in retrospect than it did when released when you compare it to the pap that gets released as songs today. Most songs today sound like they were written from an unsophisticated idea in about five minutes. There are incredibly great ideas and especially, images, in Lennon-McCartney-Harrison songs. That's why people still listen to them. What people who listen to the Beatles for the first time today don't get is how their song writing skills and playing evolved and became far more sophisticated over time. When the Beatles music hit U.S. shores in December of 1963, no one ever thought they would ever do more than write some commercial, happy love songs that sounded primarily like a more intense and rockin' Everly Brothers.
The Black Eyed Peas will be forgotten in 2 to 3 years, whereas The Beatles will remain relevant for generations to come.
I tend and hope to agree.
However, when I hear Americans can't identify their President or Vice-President but they can name every member of the 'Big Bang Theory' or Justin Bieber's favorite food, I have to wonder.
However, when I hear Americans can't identify their President or Vice-President but they can name every member of the 'Big Bang Theory' or Justin Bieber's favorite food, I have to wonder.
That's not a fair example, since Justin Bieber's favorite food is, in fact, every member of the Big Bang Theory.
I seem to remember the claim being made here that everyone had them all already (that wanted them) and they'd never sell anything yada yada yada ... just goes to show SJ knows what he's doing yet again!
I gotta admit, I'm one of those that thought everybody that wanted Beatles music, pretty much already had Beatles music. I am stunned that Apple/Beatles were able to sell 5 million copies of songs that have already been around for nearly 50 years. But even then, I still think bringing the Beatles catalog to the iTunes store was more about bragging rights than financial reasons.
... I think there's a whole generation of people who are never again going to buy a physical CD. Or, they have the CDs, but find it more convenient to download what they want, even though it's more expensive and inferior audio quality.
Is this the same generation of people who built their music collection via BitTorrent and other illegal means? Personally, I like CDs. They're my backup medium. These new users though probably don't care about backups, since they can just download any replacements without conscience.
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I never bought any, I did buy some Rolling Stones and some Sex Pistols.
I was never really into the Beatles, dissecting their songs in boring and compulsory school music classes destroyed any vestiges of appreciation I may have had.
To me "Oh bla di, oh bla da", represents the high point of their lyrical brilliance.
I have to ask, what what was the teacher's explanation for that line?
Think what you like, but compared to the Beatles's track record of sales this is simply average. After all, the band has had 26 certified multi-platinum albums (sales of 2 million), 41 platinum albums, and 47 certified gold albums. A grand slam would be something like 10 million albums. They may reach those numbers eventually, but it's probably a long way off since sales are apparently slowing.
Oh come on, this has to been seen in the context of 'absent the iTunes release' how many would they have sold here and now in 2010-2011?
Seriously? the Beatles are a good group and all, but who the heck is buying all this stuff? The individual songs, okay, I can see that; but the albums? I just can?t imagine that many people have been sitting around for the last seven years saying, ?You know, I really want to buy that Beatles album, but it?s not on iTunes, so I just won?t worry about it.? Or is it just a bunch of people who think it?s easier to spend $10-13 than to rip a CD they already own?
I?m really not trying to be difficult, here. I?ve just spent the last few weeks trying to understand it, and I haven?t come across a single person who has any more idea than I do.
I gather you haven't listened to a radio for quite awhile. Virtually every day, the Beatles are played by thousands of stations to millions of listeners. Some old, some young, some who never heard them before, some who want to hear them every day.
Much of the music that you were brought up on will be your music up to the day you die. Especially, the recordings you just had to buy. You will at some time in your future try to pass on in one manner or degree, even with force onto your children. Just like your parents did to you.
But think about it. Of those recordings that most of us have now, just how many are truly playable?
Just how many Beatles songs were only bought on 45's or LP's, 8-track or cassettes are still playable? Even CD's? Just how many people out there are even capable of transferring their collection to MP3 players, if they even could find them?
Keep in mind that most of the world's inhabitants never bought a Beatle song, never cared enough to go out of their way to hear them and probably never even cared to listen to them. Just like the Black Eyed Peas. In their generations or ever after.
But if the Black Eyed Peas were to become as infamous as the Beatles, there will be following generations that will be drawn to them as there are followers of Mozart, Brubeck and Elvis.
I seem to remember the claim being made here that everyone had them all already (that wanted them) and they'd never sell anything yada yada yada ... just goes to show SJ knows what he's doing yet again!
As their #1 fan, SJ probably bought 500,00 of them himself.
That's like $5 to him.
I gather you haven't listened to a radio for quite awhile. Virtually every day, the Beatles are played by thousands of stations to millions of listeners. Some old, some young, some who never heard them before, some who want to hear them every day.
Much of the music that you were brought up on will be your music up to the day you die. Especially, the recordings you just had to buy. You will at some time in your future try to pass on in one manner or degree, even with force onto your children. Just like your parents did to you.
But think about it. Of those recordings that most of us have now, just how many are truly playable?
Just how many Beatles songs were only bought on 45's or LP's, 8-track or cassettes are still playable? Even CD's? Just how many people out there are even capable of transferring their collection to MP3 players, if they even could find them?
Keep in mind that most of the world's inhabitants never bought a Beatle song, never cared enough to go out of their way to hear them and probably never even cared to listen to them. Just like the Black Eyed Peas. In their generations or ever after.
But if the Black Eyed Peas were to become as infamous as the Beatles, there will be following generations that will be drawn to them as there are followers of Mozart, Brubeck and Elvis.
Radio has gone in the toilet for a long time. For the most part, they call talent today wouldn't have received a deal back in the 60s/70s/80s.
It's a tribute to the Beatles talent and legacy for them to command such a demand.
Pink Floyd would produce similar results. Same with Queen.
Didn't care 7 years ago and still don't.
Are you under the mistaken impression that we care how you feel?
Yup. Many made the claim. None will admit it.
I still don't get why it's so difficult to just trust the man's vision and expertise. If he knows his game, he knows his game. It isn't blindness, it's about track records.
And how long until apple sells more beatles music than all previous sales combined?
I have to ask, what what was the teacher's explanation for that line?
I think that part was lost in drowsy, summer midafternoon reveries, like much of that particular teacher's monotone drone.
I gather you haven't listened to a radio for quite awhile. Virtually every day, the Beatles are played by thousands of stations to millions of listeners. Some old, some young, some who never heard them before, some who want to hear them every day.
Not to mention the bland, electonic renditions often heard in elevators and shopping malls.
But if the Black Eyed Peas were to become as infamous as the Beatles, there will be following generations that will be drawn to them as there are followers of Mozart, Brubeck and Elvis.
The Black Eyed Peas will be forgotten in 2 to 3 years, whereas The Beatles will remain relevant for generations to come.
I will. I was wrong.
Big deal.
And a graceful admission. Civility is not dead.
Humility is overrated.
It's not about being humble. It's about having class.
You've just revealed yourself to have neither. As in the little things, so in the big things.
I was in the camp who thought that anyone who really wanted the Beatles would have bought them on CD and copied them to their MP3 player. But I think there's a whole generation of people who are never again going to buy a physical CD. Or, they have the CDs, but find it more convenient to download what they want, even though it's more expensive and inferior audio quality.
But I did think that it was important for Jobs to get the Beatles onto iTunes because without them, you could never claim that iTunes was comprehensive. It would be like having a classical music site without Mozart.
Anyways....I find these sales levels remarkable. Before the CD remasters, Beatles sales, while respectable for a group who had disbanded 40 years ago, had slowed to a trickle. Even the CD remasters didn't sell as much as people thought they would, although it's hard to find reliable sales numbers. They under-predicted the sales for the mono CD box, but the 2nd printing is still available everywhere.
As for the quality of the Beatles writing, IMO, it seems better in retrospect than it did when released when you compare it to the pap that gets released as songs today. Most songs today sound like they were written from an unsophisticated idea in about five minutes. There are incredibly great ideas and especially, images, in Lennon-McCartney-Harrison songs. That's why people still listen to them. What people who listen to the Beatles for the first time today don't get is how their song writing skills and playing evolved and became far more sophisticated over time. When the Beatles music hit U.S. shores in December of 1963, no one ever thought they would ever do more than write some commercial, happy love songs that sounded primarily like a more intense and rockin' Everly Brothers.
The Black Eyed Peas will be forgotten in 2 to 3 years, whereas The Beatles will remain relevant for generations to come.
I tend and hope to agree.
However, when I hear Americans can't identify their President or Vice-President but they can name every member of the 'Big Bang Theory' or Justin Bieber's favorite food, I have to wonder.
I tend and hope to agree.
However, when I hear Americans can't identify their President or Vice-President but they can name every member of the 'Big Bang Theory' or Justin Bieber's favorite food, I have to wonder.
That's not a fair example, since Justin Bieber's favorite food is, in fact, every member of the Big Bang Theory.
I seem to remember the claim being made here that everyone had them all already (that wanted them) and they'd never sell anything yada yada yada ... just goes to show SJ knows what he's doing yet again!
I gotta admit, I'm one of those that thought everybody that wanted Beatles music, pretty much already had Beatles music. I am stunned that Apple/Beatles were able to sell 5 million copies of songs that have already been around for nearly 50 years. But even then, I still think bringing the Beatles catalog to the iTunes store was more about bragging rights than financial reasons.
Are you under the mistaken impression that we care how you feel?
Wow, great snark. You sure showed him, huh?
... I think there's a whole generation of people who are never again going to buy a physical CD. Or, they have the CDs, but find it more convenient to download what they want, even though it's more expensive and inferior audio quality.
Is this the same generation of people who built their music collection via BitTorrent and other illegal means? Personally, I like CDs. They're my backup medium. These new users though probably don't care about backups, since they can just download any replacements without conscience.
Wow, great snark. You sure showed him, huh?
Well, you know what they say .... one good snark deserves another ..... wouldn't you agree?