Apple's iPad 2 prompts Samsung to improve 'inadequate' parts of Galaxy Tab 10.1

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  • Reply 161 of 222
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,757member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    With regard to Samsung, Jobs repeated a quote that gained much attention, in which a Samsung executive was originally reported to have said that sales of its 7-inch Galaxy Tab, released last fall, were "quite small." However, Samsung later clarified that their executive said Galaxy Tab sales were "quite smooth," and that the original quote was incorrect.



    hehe - Jobs thinks about as much of their "clarification" as I do.
  • Reply 162 of 222
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,757member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FreeRange View Post


    Apple's competitors have their heads so far up their butts that they can't see straight. They have no ability to think for themselves or innovate on their own. A pathetic lot.



    Oh no - you have it all wrong - it's Apple that needs the competition from everyone else to drive innovation and keep costs low!
  • Reply 163 of 222
    gftunagftuna Posts: 6member
    What most of the tablet wannabees do not understand is content/apps drives tablet sales. Not specs. Most main stream consummers just look at the screen and want to see the user experince, not what the specs are. That was What Steve Jobs said is that the other tablet wannabees do not understand the market. When HD TV first came out, you saw a great picture but it was hookup to a hard drive in the stores. When you asked what you could watch on the HD TV you would get a blank look. When content was avialable for the HD TVs then sales picketup. Content/Apps/Internet/games are what is going to drive sales when the products are close to each other in specs. When they are not close in specs/price than it's a slam dunk. Apple is developing a complete eco system not just a tablet. Apple is creating content for their tablet. You can have the best specs in the would but if you do not have content, then it's just a high price paper weight.
  • Reply 164 of 222
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    It was funny. I found the original iPad 2 marketing video today. They knew this would really pulling in users like Mouse and Quadra.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USPz-EEpEVw



    You gotta love Conan.

    I'll tell you what I thought was a very interesting comment .... coming from Engadget's liveblog: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/02/l...-ipad-2-event/



    (after viewing the iPad video)



    10:16AM iPads are being used to work with Autistic children. This is pretty cool. "We're not curing Autism, but it's helping."



    10:14AM Chicago schools... using the iPad, seeing huge gains.



    10:17AM Steve is back.



    10:17AM Phil: This is just the beginning.



    10:17AM Damn you Apple for making everyone here cry about the iPad.



    10:17AM Man this is actually really emotional...



    "magical" device at work. (my comment)



    Of course, it could be said that the Samsung quote from this morning re: the Galaxy Tab are making a lot of people cry as well ..... but that's a different story.
  • Reply 165 of 222
    dimitrirdimitrir Posts: 11member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post


    the iPad 2 is just a copy cat product



    Yup, Apple tried to beat Xoom and failed miserably. Inferior hardware and iOS which is a full generation behind Honeycomb, which was specifically designed for tablets - things do no look good for iPad 2.
  • Reply 166 of 222
    island hermitisland hermit Posts: 6,217member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dimitrir View Post


    Yup, Apple tried to beat Xoom and failed miserably. Inferior hardware and iOS which is a full generation behind Honeycomb, which was specifically designed for tablets - things do no look good for iPad 2.



    Watch out... there are quite a few people on here who will take this seriously and miss the sarcasm entirely...
  • Reply 167 of 222
    rabbit_coachrabbit_coach Posts: 1,114member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post


    First of all, there's a big difference between being biased and dishonest. Being biased is simply a matter of having your opinions skewed in a particular direction. Being dishonest is misrepresenting yourself and your posting history, and simply making stuff up to suit your argument. So, whether I am biased or not is irrelevant to calling you out for your blatant dishonesty. You lied, you got caught, you were called out for it.



    As to whether the iPad is a toy, maybe to you it is, that's fine, you haven't found anything productive to do with it. But, frankly, that says more about you than about the iPad. Anyone who's been paying attention over the past year knows that iPads are being used as something other than toys by millions of people. So, honestly, it's just a really dumb comment on your part.



    Why doesn't it get an educational discount? Assuming that it actually doesn't (since I don't have access to educational pricing) it's probably because of lower margins. But, your argument seems to be that if it isn't offered with an educational discount, it can't be an educational tool. Again, a pretty flimsy argument on your part. The measure of whether it's an educational tool is whether it's used as one or not, not how much it sells for. And the answer to that seems to increasingly contradict your position on the matter.



    100 points to you anonymouse! But why do you bother to respond to extremes post. I believe he is just being provokative to get attention. I Observed this on this forum, that people with the wierdest opignions get the most replies. So I guess he is just trying to get recognized. Some how I feel sorry for all the effort people put into response posts to this kind of guys. Just my humble opignon.
  • Reply 168 of 222
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,527member
    .



    Ha!



    You know is's over -- the "suits" finally get the iPad!















    The Spawn of iPad 2
  • Reply 169 of 222
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,757member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    Are you sure about that? I thought mobile accounted for only about 1-2% of web hits currently.



    Your thinking of the Blackberry/Windows Mobile days...
  • Reply 170 of 222
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,527member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gftuna View Post


    What most of the tablet wannabees do not understand is content/apps drives tablet sales. Not specs. Most main stream consummers just look at the screen and want to see the user experince, not what the specs are. That was What Steve Jobs said is that the other tablet wannabees do not understand the market. When HD TV first came out, you saw a great picture but it was hookup to a hard drive in the stores. When you asked what you could watch on the HD TV you would get a blank look. When content was avialable for the HD TVs then sales picketup. Content/Apps/Internet/games are what is going to drive sales when the products are close to each other in specs. When they are not close in specs/price than it's a slam dunk. Apple is developing a complete eco system not just a tablet. Apple is creating content for their tablet. You can have the best specs in the would but if you do not have content, then it's just a high price paper weight.



    Two things:



    1) Erica Sadun has an excellent article:



    Deciding on a tablet by comparing specs? You've missed the point



    2) A question:



    Can any of these Android Tablets AirPlay to GoogleTV?



    .
  • Reply 171 of 222
    felipurfelipur Posts: 42member
    The key redesign issue for Samsung appears to be the pricing model.



    For years Apple was derided for "expensive" hardware. Anyone who did a thorough comparison found Apple was very competitive for what it sold. But what it sold was often higher end than what a particular user might need. So one could always use a smaller hard drive, a CD instead of a DVD burner, a big boxy case, less memory, skip the firewire, build it yourself, and the result was a cheaper box (with lower specs). So while Apple often has the best price/value. it is always being undercut by cheaper hardware (with lower value).



    In the tablet space, Apple is in the position of defining what the baseline performance/feature set for a tablet is. This leaves competitors unable to undercut Apple by marketing significantly cheaper hardware with lower specs as they did in the PC space.



    All major manufacturers have access to roughly equivalent hardware at roughly equivalent pricing. A cortex A9 is going to be roughly the same as an A5 or a Tegra 2. Apple might get better volume pricing on some items but it's not going to be so significant that HP or Samsung can't compete. At any point in time, many companies can build roughly equivalent hardware at roughly equivalent costs. Given equivalent hardware, Apple is going to compete on build quality, software ecosystem, marketing, retailing, etc. These are all areas, Apple excels at.



    Alternatively, competitors can compete by adding features to get hardware differentiation. However, extra features cost so companies like Samsung are going to have to either lower quality somewhere else or argue for better features plus higher price as a better value.



    It didn't work very well for Apple in the PC space. I think Samsung is coming to the conclusion that it isn't going to work well in the tablet space.
  • Reply 172 of 222
    gftunagftuna Posts: 6member
    Thanks Dick Applebaum. Much better than my little scribble
  • Reply 173 of 222
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post


    Flash is important to several industries. For example, I'm in the homebuilding industry. Some of our sales nazis have iPads and will be out showing a home and if there is something that the customer wants to see in a different model, we have virtual tours available. Now these tours are hosted and made by a 3rd party company that works with several homebuilders, but linked through our site for our specific homes. Unfortunately, the sales staff can't show the virtual tours because they are made in Flash.



    I don't need Flash personally on my iPhone most of the time, but there are times when it is necessary and I can't do it. Just not enough to be annoying.



    I hope you are not paying this 3rd party company for something that your field sales people cannot use. It seems like the iPad is here to stay, and it will never have Flash. Either tell them not to use Flash, or find another company to create your virtual tours. I assume you would not pay for hammers that cannot be used on your construction sites. Why pay for technology services that cannot be used?
  • Reply 174 of 222
    nagrommenagromme Posts: 2,834member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alandail View Post


    perhaps lost in the quibbling over the sell through rate of the galaxy tab is the return rate. Wasn't there a report that the return rate was pretty high?



    Yes:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20030211-37.html



    Samsung said the % was much lower, less than 2%, BUT that could be explained as 2% of all Tabs sent to retailers were returned... even though many of those were never sold in the first place. The higher %, then, could be the % of returns among Tabs actually SOLD. In other words, Samsung tossed a bunch of unsold Tabs (which naturally have a 0% return rate) into the calculation to make their return rate look low. That?s one explanation, anyway. Samsung must be playing SOME funny math games, or else the Tab has higher user satisfaction than the iPad. I think we can safely reject that
  • Reply 175 of 222
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,527member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post


    Apple should do a fake keynote sometime!



    Steve Jobs would get on stage and talk about an upcoming product which is due to ship in the future, and we all know as soon as he's done talking, the competitors will immediately get to work in copying the design and specs of the product. Like a bunch of monkeys, they copy, they don't innovate.



    Then a couple of months later, Apple has another keynote, and Steve Jobs says that they were only kidding, and this is really what our product is going to look like. It would be hilarious and it would cost the competitors many millions of dollars of wasted money in their attempts to copy something that turns out to be not the actual product with bogus specs.





    Don't know if they still do it... Back in early days they would make spoofs like this:



    Blue Busters
  • Reply 176 of 222
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,757member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Muncie View Post


    Smooth.



    first laugh out loud post of the thread
  • Reply 177 of 222
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,757member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post


    For somebody who thinks that the ipad is only a toy, you sure do seem to spend a lot time discussing that toy.



    I think it comes back to that word.. what was it? Oh yeah - flummoxed!
  • Reply 178 of 222
    spec1spec1 Posts: 2member
    I want this new iPad 2. This thing is just fantastic, amazing. I understand it is not a huge upgrade for the original first adapters. But, I waited, so for me this is great. The polish of the UI and the hardware combined, just puts this product head and shoulders above all others. Apple understands that most customers want ease of use, simplicity & great industrial designed products.



    This fight with the iPad 2, and the original iPad for that matter of fact, has not even started, and Apple is, hands down the winner here (industrial design, polish UI, echo-system, just to name a few.)



    Samsung is now backing up with their tail between their legs, scrambling to put a new face on its ugly ducking Tab 10.1 that it has not even released yet, in order to attempt to better compete with Apple. I thought the Samsung Tab 10.1 looked absolutely atrocious with the big Samsung circle on the back along with all that plastic. Just inferior! It did not seem or look like choice, top notch materials. Samsung, you should be able to do way better! I think you should listen to your mobile customers more! Samsung's insides are typically always on the cutting edge, but they need a totally new industrial design team on board.



    Jony Ive rules! No manufacturers design team even comes close to Apple's Ive and his team.
  • Reply 179 of 222
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    Can any of these Android Tablets AirPlay to GoogleTV?





    There is a TV commercial playing recently for an HTC phone that demonstrates an AirPlay-like function in the very last scene, although without any specifics. I thought it was unusual and wondered the same thing you asked.
  • Reply 180 of 222
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,527member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    ...Unlike many of you I like the iPad because it is a toy. Listen to music, play games, surf the net and watch videos. If I wanted to do something productive I have to use a MBP because the iPad simply does not support the software I use. Which is the case for most people.



    For some people it is more than a toy -- it is the gateway to communication, and much, much more:







    http://www.proloquo2go.com/About/article/ipad
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