2) Why are there no 3rd party iPad 2 cases? I'm dying over here with my iPad 2 being exposed with nothing more than the Apple cover (which offers no real protection). All these guys showing off their cases back months ago, but none are shipping now. Grrrrrr...
Apple comes out with one phone once a year and they can't come out with a new design? Other manufacturers are releasing new phones with new design and different flavor left and right..
Apple comes out with one phone once a year and they can't come out with a new design? Other manufacturers are releasing new phones with new design and different flavor left and right..
1) Who said they can’t or are you just trolling?
2) Why do you think Apple should reinvent the wheel every single year just because they can? Does this help the consumer that there will be little to no accessories designed for the model for several months after launch? Does it help the 3rd-party companies that have to switch gears on the accessories they make and always being well behind the curve? Does this help Apple’s bottom line when one of the benefits of Apple’s products is the ecosystem?
3) Your assertion that having the ability means that they should, implies that they should vary the Dock Connector plug with each revision simply because they can. Does that really make sense? I think the case should change only when there is good reason to evolve the shape and size to a new form factor, not before.
4) How exactly was pointing out the frantic and fractured designs of other smartphone makers trying to keep their head above water in a post-iPhone world going to help your argument? Personally, I think we’re getting to a point when Apple may want to have more than one iPhone type on the market, but this is a vastly different market than the iPod market since iOS and the App Store are key elements to its growth and stricture. Meaning, you can’t simply go with different display sizes, resolutions, and aspect ratios the way they were able to with the iPod without considering the impact to developers and consumers. For this reason any such changes will have to well planned.
Apple's anticipated fifth-generation iPhone will sport an exterior design largely identical to the current iPhone 4... ...If accurate, the renderings would likely disprove an earlier rumor that Apple is looking to abandon the steel outer frame of the iPhone 4 following bad publicity over alleged antenna issues.
If these renderings are accurate (??) they CLEARLY show the rear 'edges' of the phone have a radius to them, likely indicating a metal back, likely reflecting the iPad 2.
Has the glass back of the iPhone 4 really been a big issue? I've never had any problems with either face of my iPhone 4 and I don't recall reading anything about users having issues with the rear glass.
I second this one. I never had any problem with the back of my lost iphone .
I got a case from the free case program and dropped the phone quite some times, especially white standing up straight. The phone was really durable and it had no crack whatsoever.
I would guess that there will be very little difference in the cosmetic design of the iP4 to the iP5. Some are specualating LTE for VZW and others. I doubt it as the LTE chips are still rather large and power hungry ( unless there has been a new LTE chip I am not aware of ), I look for GSM/CDMA integration so they can run 1 product line and do not have to worry about 2 product lines.
Supposedly the glass back will be replaced with aluminium to reduce the weight of the device due to customer feedback. I kindof wish Apple were not so obsessed with reducing the weight in things like iPhone and iPad. I love the design of the first iPad and the iPhone 4. Sometimes you want a bit of weight to a device to feel like you've got something in your hands.
I remember that article a little while back. If the iPhone 5 adopts an aluminum back, it'll be more of a throwback to the original iPhone (though hopefully without the tacky chrome bezel). If Apple does goes that route, I'd expect the black antenna band at the bottom like the original iPhone rather than the top like the iPad. I seem to remember something about Apple designing it that way to put the antennae as far away from the head as possible for safety reasons.
I too like the current thickness and weight of the iPhone (and the design of the iPhone 4 in particular) and don't see the need to reduce either, but I'm sure Apple's "obsession" with thinner and lighter has some basis in customer feedback and ergonomics research.
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I think this depends on who you ask. I have 3 friends with iP4 who haven't dropped their phones and therefore have had no issues (two of them use cases, one does not). But, I have had two students come through my office that have dropped theirs and had cracks, one pretty badly. I don't have an iP4 so its not a current issue for me. But if I were to get one, I would either be forced to buy a case, which I don't want to do, or I would just have to deal with being more worried about dropping than I should have to be.
I'm sure you're right; people's impressions of cases, as well as their reasons for or against using them, differ widely. I've used a case for all my iPhones (and several of my dumb phones before that) not because I felt forced to do so out of fear they couldn't withstand normal wear and tear, but almost automatically as a function of protecting my investment, sort of like purchasing AppleCare for all my Apple hardware. In fact, I never considered not using a case. Like your friends, I haven't dropped my Bumper-protected iPhone 4 and have had no issues. I can understand how those who choose not to use a case with their iPhone 4 might worry about the glass back, and I don't doubt plenty iPhone 4s have been dropped, but I just hadn't heard about any excessive number of reports to Apple of damage not due to negligence justifying those concerns.
I remember that article a little while back. If the iPhone 5 adopts an aluminum back, it'll be more of a throwback to the original iPhone (though hopefully without the tacky chrome bezel). If Apple does goes that route, I'd expect the black antenna band at the bottom like the original iPhone rather than the top like the iPad. I seem to remember something about Apple designing it that way to put the antennae as far away from the head as possible for safety reasons.
I too like the current thickness and weight of the iPhone (and the design of the iPhone 4 in particular) and don't see the need to reduce either, but I'm sure Apple's "obsession" with thinner and lighter has some basis in customer feedback and ergonomics research.
I'm sure you're right; people's impressions of cases, as well as their reasons for or against using them, differ widely. I've used a case for all my iPhones (and several of my dumb phones before that) not because I felt forced to do so out of fear they couldn't withstand normal wear and tear, but almost automatically as a function of protecting my investment, sort of like purchasing AppleCare for all my Apple hardware. In fact, I never considered not using a case. Like your friends, I haven't dropped my Bumper-protected iPhone 4 and have had no issues. I can understand how those who choose not to use a case with their iPhone 4 might worry about the glass back, and I don't doubt plenty iPhone 4s have been dropped, but I just hadn't heard about any excessive number of reports to Apple of damage not due to negligence justifying those concerns.
I don't believe it was a large issue either, as most people ended up with cases in order to solve the antenna issue. So they were likely protected. I did hear about isolated incidents though. I just don't want to be one of the few to suffer this fate. I do plan to get an iP5 when they come out as my 3Gs is getting a bit long in the tooth by comparison, and I am hoping I will feel confident enough not to have to keep it in a case. I guess we will just have to wait and see what Apple delivers. I guess if I have to get a case then I will. Although it just seems wrong to put such a gorgeously designed piece of hardware in a case that hides most of the aesthetic.
I don't believe it was a large issue either, as most people ended up with cases in order to solve the antenna issue. So they were likely protected. I did hear about isolated incidents though. I just don't want to be one of the few to suffer this fate. I do plan to get an iP5 when they come out as my 3Gs is getting a bit long in the tooth by comparison, and I am hoping I will feel confident enough not to have to keep it in a case. I guess we will just have to wait and see what Apple delivers. I guess if I have to get a case then I will. Although it just seems wrong to put such a gorgeously designed piece of hardware in a case that hides most of the aesthetic.
You're like I was; I leapfrogged over the 3GS because my 3G was acting its age. I'm really curious to see the iPhone 5 too. It's sure to be solid and gorgeous.
With the Verizon iPhone introduced last month and the white one coming out next month, the iPhone 4 still seems fresh. I don't think the next generation would comprise of mega changes to be called an iPhone 5.
I think, what we'll see this June is iPhone 4GS - "4G" for the network, and the "S" thanks to the new A5 chip.
These images/designs are bogus. Why would you have an opening in a case for a SIM card? You can't just remove the thing on the rare occasion you need to swap it? Stupid.
These images/designs are bogus. Why would you have an opening in a case for a SIM card? You can't just remove the thing on the rare occasion you need to swap it? Stupid.
I agree, no one needs easy access to the sim card. However, it could be for a micro USB plug as mandated by the EU. Apple could leave 30 pin connector on the bottom and throw a usb plug on the side to comply. That would keep everyone happy....
Do people really think that the notoriously secret Apple would give case manufacturers a preview of the iPhone 5?
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Originally Posted by solipsism
They don’t give a preview of the next iPhone, they give specs for the dimensions and where cut outs have to be. They did this for the iPad 2 and we had plenty of case designs and mockups, along with speculations about what the cut out areas were for.
With due respect, that's insane. Apple wouldn't give any specs until it is released. What we have are Chinese manufacturers of the iPhone leaking the designs to Chinese case manufacturers... Hence all the mock-ups and cut-out areas and what nots depending on how the case manufacturers obtained their highly illicit information.
I think this depends on who you ask. I have 3 friends with iP4 who haven't dropped their phones and therefore have had no issues (two of them use cases, one does not). But, I have had two students come through my office that have dropped theirs and had cracks, one pretty badly. I don't have an iP4 so its not a current issue for me. But if I were to get one, I would either be forced to buy a case, which I don't want to do, or I would just have to deal with being more worried about dropping than I should have to be.
I can tell you on two occasions in the past 6 months a case saved my iPhone from probably having a nice crack in the glass.
Has the glass back of the iPhone 4 really been a big issue? I've never had any problems with either face of my iPhone 4 and I don't recall reading anything about users having issues with the rear glass.
Users tend not to have any issues with the rear glass until it experiences a crack, usually when dropped in a certain way that unfortunately causes the glass to crack. (Yes, I am being a smartass... but I have personally seen shattered glass iPhone 4s. My personal stance... iPhone 4 is the most beautiful phone ever designed. To use it though, you should have it in a case.)
Apple comes out with one phone once a year and they can't come out with a new design? Other manufacturers are releasing new phones with new design and different flavor left and right..
How's that working out for their slice of the profits?
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2) Why are there no 3rd party iPad 2 cases? I'm dying over here with my iPad 2 being exposed with nothing more than the Apple cover (which offers no real protection). All these guys showing off their cases back months ago, but none are shipping now. Grrrrrr...
Here's two that are available now.
http://www.twelvesouth.com/products/bookbook_ipad/
http://www.dodocase.com/
http://mashable.com/2011/03/11/ipad-...gallery_box979 has a list of cases and the arrival dates.
Apple comes out with one phone once a year and they can't come out with a new design? Other manufacturers are releasing new phones with new design and different flavor left and right..
1) Who said they can’t or are you just trolling?
2) Why do you think Apple should reinvent the wheel every single year just because they can? Does this help the consumer that there will be little to no accessories designed for the model for several months after launch? Does it help the 3rd-party companies that have to switch gears on the accessories they make and always being well behind the curve? Does this help Apple’s bottom line when one of the benefits of Apple’s products is the ecosystem?
3) Your assertion that having the ability means that they should, implies that they should vary the Dock Connector plug with each revision simply because they can. Does that really make sense? I think the case should change only when there is good reason to evolve the shape and size to a new form factor, not before.
4) How exactly was pointing out the frantic and fractured designs of other smartphone makers trying to keep their head above water in a post-iPhone world going to help your argument? Personally, I think we’re getting to a point when Apple may want to have more than one iPhone type on the market, but this is a vastly different market than the iPod market since iOS and the App Store are key elements to its growth and stricture. Meaning, you can’t simply go with different display sizes, resolutions, and aspect ratios the way they were able to with the iPod without considering the impact to developers and consumers. For this reason any such changes will have to well planned.
1) Who said they can?t or are you just trolling?.
calm yourself doctor!
Apple's anticipated fifth-generation iPhone will sport an exterior design largely identical to the current iPhone 4... ...If accurate, the renderings would likely disprove an earlier rumor that Apple is looking to abandon the steel outer frame of the iPhone 4 following bad publicity over alleged antenna issues.
If these renderings are accurate (??) they CLEARLY show the rear 'edges' of the phone have a radius to them, likely indicating a metal back, likely reflecting the iPad 2.
That is all.
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Goodbye solipsism! I like your posts! Enjoy your AI reprieve.
Has the glass back of the iPhone 4 really been a big issue? I've never had any problems with either face of my iPhone 4 and I don't recall reading anything about users having issues with the rear glass.
I second this one. I never had any problem with the back of my lost iphone
I got a case from the free case program and dropped the phone quite some times, especially white standing up straight. The phone was really durable and it had no crack whatsoever.
antennagate be damned. i hope they keep the current design. it's the sexiest phone alive.
This.
Supposedly the glass back will be replaced with aluminium to reduce the weight of the device due to customer feedback. I kindof wish Apple were not so obsessed with reducing the weight in things like iPhone and iPad. I love the design of the first iPad and the iPhone 4. Sometimes you want a bit of weight to a device to feel like you've got something in your hands.
I remember that article a little while back. If the iPhone 5 adopts an aluminum back, it'll be more of a throwback to the original iPhone (though hopefully without the tacky chrome bezel). If Apple does goes that route, I'd expect the black antenna band at the bottom like the original iPhone rather than the top like the iPad. I seem to remember something about Apple designing it that way to put the antennae as far away from the head as possible for safety reasons.
I too like the current thickness and weight of the iPhone (and the design of the iPhone 4 in particular) and don't see the need to reduce either, but I'm sure Apple's "obsession" with thinner and lighter has some basis in customer feedback and ergonomics research.
I think this depends on who you ask. I have 3 friends with iP4 who haven't dropped their phones and therefore have had no issues (two of them use cases, one does not). But, I have had two students come through my office that have dropped theirs and had cracks, one pretty badly. I don't have an iP4 so its not a current issue for me. But if I were to get one, I would either be forced to buy a case, which I don't want to do, or I would just have to deal with being more worried about dropping than I should have to be.
I'm sure you're right; people's impressions of cases, as well as their reasons for or against using them, differ widely. I've used a case for all my iPhones (and several of my dumb phones before that) not because I felt forced to do so out of fear they couldn't withstand normal wear and tear, but almost automatically as a function of protecting my investment, sort of like purchasing AppleCare for all my Apple hardware. In fact, I never considered not using a case. Like your friends, I haven't dropped my Bumper-protected iPhone 4 and have had no issues. I can understand how those who choose not to use a case with their iPhone 4 might worry about the glass back, and I don't doubt plenty iPhone 4s have been dropped, but I just hadn't heard about any excessive number of reports to Apple of damage not due to negligence justifying those concerns.
I remember that article a little while back. If the iPhone 5 adopts an aluminum back, it'll be more of a throwback to the original iPhone (though hopefully without the tacky chrome bezel). If Apple does goes that route, I'd expect the black antenna band at the bottom like the original iPhone rather than the top like the iPad. I seem to remember something about Apple designing it that way to put the antennae as far away from the head as possible for safety reasons.
I too like the current thickness and weight of the iPhone (and the design of the iPhone 4 in particular) and don't see the need to reduce either, but I'm sure Apple's "obsession" with thinner and lighter has some basis in customer feedback and ergonomics research.
I'm sure you're right; people's impressions of cases, as well as their reasons for or against using them, differ widely. I've used a case for all my iPhones (and several of my dumb phones before that) not because I felt forced to do so out of fear they couldn't withstand normal wear and tear, but almost automatically as a function of protecting my investment, sort of like purchasing AppleCare for all my Apple hardware. In fact, I never considered not using a case. Like your friends, I haven't dropped my Bumper-protected iPhone 4 and have had no issues. I can understand how those who choose not to use a case with their iPhone 4 might worry about the glass back, and I don't doubt plenty iPhone 4s have been dropped, but I just hadn't heard about any excessive number of reports to Apple of damage not due to negligence justifying those concerns.
I don't believe it was a large issue either, as most people ended up with cases in order to solve the antenna issue. So they were likely protected. I did hear about isolated incidents though. I just don't want to be one of the few to suffer this fate. I do plan to get an iP5 when they come out as my 3Gs is getting a bit long in the tooth by comparison, and I am hoping I will feel confident enough not to have to keep it in a case. I guess we will just have to wait and see what Apple delivers. I guess if I have to get a case then I will. Although it just seems wrong to put such a gorgeously designed piece of hardware in a case that hides most of the aesthetic.
I don't believe it was a large issue either, as most people ended up with cases in order to solve the antenna issue. So they were likely protected. I did hear about isolated incidents though. I just don't want to be one of the few to suffer this fate. I do plan to get an iP5 when they come out as my 3Gs is getting a bit long in the tooth by comparison, and I am hoping I will feel confident enough not to have to keep it in a case. I guess we will just have to wait and see what Apple delivers. I guess if I have to get a case then I will. Although it just seems wrong to put such a gorgeously designed piece of hardware in a case that hides most of the aesthetic.
You're like I was; I leapfrogged over the 3GS because my 3G was acting its age. I'm really curious to see the iPhone 5 too. It's sure to be solid and gorgeous.
I think, what we'll see this June is iPhone 4GS - "4G" for the network, and the "S" thanks to the new A5 chip.
These images/designs are bogus. Why would you have an opening in a case for a SIM card? You can't just remove the thing on the rare occasion you need to swap it? Stupid.
I agree, no one needs easy access to the sim card. However, it could be for a micro USB plug as mandated by the EU. Apple could leave 30 pin connector on the bottom and throw a usb plug on the side to comply. That would keep everyone happy....
Do people really think that the notoriously secret Apple would give case manufacturers a preview of the iPhone 5?
They don’t give a preview of the next iPhone, they give specs for the dimensions and where cut outs have to be. They did this for the iPad 2 and we had plenty of case designs and mockups, along with speculations about what the cut out areas were for.
With due respect, that's insane. Apple wouldn't give any specs until it is released. What we have are Chinese manufacturers of the iPhone leaking the designs to Chinese case manufacturers... Hence all the mock-ups and cut-out areas and what nots depending on how the case manufacturers obtained their highly illicit information.
I think this depends on who you ask. I have 3 friends with iP4 who haven't dropped their phones and therefore have had no issues (two of them use cases, one does not). But, I have had two students come through my office that have dropped theirs and had cracks, one pretty badly. I don't have an iP4 so its not a current issue for me. But if I were to get one, I would either be forced to buy a case, which I don't want to do, or I would just have to deal with being more worried about dropping than I should have to be.
I can tell you on two occasions in the past 6 months a case saved my iPhone from probably having a nice crack in the glass.
Has the glass back of the iPhone 4 really been a big issue? I've never had any problems with either face of my iPhone 4 and I don't recall reading anything about users having issues with the rear glass.
Users tend not to have any issues with the rear glass until it experiences a crack, usually when dropped in a certain way that unfortunately causes the glass to crack.
Apple comes out with one phone once a year and they can't come out with a new design? Other manufacturers are releasing new phones with new design and different flavor left and right..
How's that working out for their slice of the profits?