Android political rights
I think the central political issue of the 21st century will be that of android politcal rights-at some point robots will be capable of working independently,will they be able to keep their own money,have credit cards,speculate on the stock market? I was talking to someone tonight who is reasonably intelligent and he asked me what do you think the next trend in computers will be,and I told him that the next big development wil be autonomous robots and he said that he wouldn't have to worry that wouldn't happen for another 100 years or so,I told him no,ten years,then he got a frightened look on his face and said,what purpose will it serve society to build these robots?,and I said it will fill no purpose,the robots will be capable of providing their own purpose,and it may be contrary to our (humans') best interest.It is only a matter of time,once a robot is capable of building and programming another robot that is more intelligent than itself a certain barrier will crossed that makes it possible for robots to eventually take over the world.
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<strong>I think the central political issue of the 21st century will be that of android politcal rights-at some point robots will be capable of working independently,will they be able to keep their own money,have credit cards,speculate on the stock market? I was talking to someone tonight who is reasonably intelligent and he asked me what do you think the next trend in computers will be,and I told him that the next big development wil be autonomous robots and he said that he wouldn't have to worry that wouldn't happen for another 100 years or so,I told him no,ten years,then he got a frightened look on his face and said,what purpose will it serve society to build these robots?,and I said it will fill no purpose,the robots will be capable of providing their own purpose,and it may be contrary to our (humans') best interest.It is only a matter of time,once a robot is capable of building and programming another robot that is more intelligent than itself a certain barrier will crossed that makes it possible for robots to eventually take over the world.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It remember me the Speelbierg moovie : AI
But for the moment we are very far from this description. It's not for the first part of the 21 century.
<strong>No,not 50 years,10 years.C3P0-type droids will be around in 10 years.AI is a lot more advanced than the general public is aware of,even a lot of people in the tech world.Will these droids be sentient? Probably not- but they don't need to be.</strong><hr></blockquote>No way 10 years. Who knows what will happen in 50 years, but I just don't see it happening. I did graduate work in this area (modeling human cognitive processes) and we're not even close to scratching the surface of creating general human-like cognitive processes - language, perception, movement, on and on.
I suppose it depends on your standards - there are internet natural language processing demos that you can talk to, but they're pretty poor compared to Data or 3PO. Or you could create a robot and have it beat the pants off of 99.9% of people. But general human characteristics like 3P0? Nuh-uh.
Can you provide some evidence to back up your idea that we're a lot farther along than most people think?
First Law:
A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
Second Law:
A robot must obey orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
Third Law:
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Therefore robots will not take over the world. Unless the laws are programmed in by MS programmers, in which case we're all screwed.
p.s. I could also bring up Blade Runner but I'm heading out the door. Ciao.
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Holy shit, I think my wife is a robot.
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<strong>As usual the devil is in the details. Does the First Law of Robotics mean that a robot will try to keep me from smoking, force me to use a condom, exercise more often, or monitor my diet for too much fat. I could see how an overly protective robot could get out of hand.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes definitively : you should read Asimov. But you can explain to the robot that avoiding pleasures let you to depression which is bad for you health.
BTW you don't need to use a condom with a robot
I'd be afraid of getting an electrical shock otherwise.
Originally posted by gobble gobble:
<strong>BTW you don't need to use a condom with a robot
I'd be afraid of getting an electrical shock otherwise.
That's make sens <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
Physical abilities - must move across room, up stairs, carry 200 pounds, lift and move an egg, and handle simple tools, all AS FAST AS A HUMAN!
The software for such a thing will be comparatively easy to write, as there are dozens of groups working on that very idea.
First job for robot = helping old RICH people.
Seconed job = ROBO - PROSTITUTE!
Would YOU give a handmaid or a prostitute a vote? Certainly. We give every retard the right to vote in America. Everyone who's lived for 18 years can vote for our President. Except felons.
Now, as for INTELLECTUAL robots... that's another matter.
<strong>BTW you don't need to use a condom with a robot
Shed, if they could get me a robot that looks like the chick from Cherie2000 (timeless classic!) I would gladly use what ever she wants me to.
An Alicia Silverstone droid would be even better though
<a href="http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,54113,00.html"; target="_blank">http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,54113,00.html</a>;
<strong>Here is an interesting link,I think a ten year timeframe is very realistic:
<a href="http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,54113,00.html"; target="_blank">http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,54113,00.html</a></strong><hr></blockquote>;
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/07/26/socially.skilled.robot.ap/index.html"; target="_blank">Here's CNN's report.</a> With photos...I think it'll be a little more than 10 years...