Briefly: White iPhone 4 0.2mm thicker, Samsung profit drops, Logitech Google TV

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in iPhone edited January 2014
Initial reports suggest that the long-delayed white iPhone 4 is 0.2mm thicker than its black counterpart and may not fit all cases. Also, Samsung revealed Thursday in its quarterly earnings report that its profit dropped to the company's lowest figure in almost two years. Finally, Logitech reported disappointing Google TV sales of just $5 million last quarter.



White iPhone 4



After early adopters of Apple's recently released white iPhone 4 reported noticing an apparent difference in thickness between the black iPhone 4 and the white version, TiPb conducted measurements of the two devices. The report found that the white iPhone 4 is roughly 0.2mm thicker than the black model.



Apple lists the depth of both the white iPhone 4 and the black iPhone 4 as 9.3mm, or 0.37 inch. Tests of various cases found that most cases were unaffected by the difference, though a few "were just a tad tight."



The exact cause of the increase in thickness on the white iPhone 4 remains unclear, though some have speculated that a new paint mix and UV protection contribute to the difference. AppleInsider reported earlier this year that Apple had partnered with a Japanese company to develop a new paint material for the white iPhone 4.



iPhone 4 width comparison via TiPb



In an interview earlier this week, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller explained that a number of reasons, including the need for more protection from ultraviolet rays from the sun, contributed to the 10-month delay.



Analyst Brian White of Ticonderoga Securities sees Apple selling between 1 to 1.5 million units of the white iPhone 4 each in the June and September quarters.



Samsung



Samsung saw a 30 percent drop in profit last quarter after phone sales for the Korean company fell 14 percent year over year to 70 million devices, Electronista reports.



The electronics giant posted 2.95 trillion won ($2.75 billion) in operating profit, compared to a consensus forecast of 3.1 trillion won. Samsung also reported a disappointing quarter in January.



Samsung was hit hardest in its display business, losing $214.85 million and shipping eight percent fewer LCDs. On the upside, shipments of tablet displays, many of which are likely bound for Apple's iPad, grew by roughly 30 percent.



With 2010 purchases of $5.68 billion in components, Apple was Samsung's second biggest customer, behind Sony. In February, a Korean newspaper claimed that Apple claim the top spot by buying $7.8 billion in parts from Samsung in 2011.



Apple and Samsung have recently begun a extensive legal battle. Earlier this month, Apple filed a lawsuit against Samsung, accusing the company of copying the look and feel of the iPhone and iPad. Samsung has responded with countersuits (1, 2) in four different countries: Korea, Japan, Germany and the U.S.







Google TV



Logitech missed its estimate of $18 million in Google TV product and peripheral sales in the fiscal fourth quarter by over 70 percent with just $5 million in sales, GigaOM reports. Last quarter, the company reported $22 million in sales of Google TV-related products. To make matters worse, inventory for the devices rose 28 percent last quarter.



CEO Gerald P. Quindlen told investors Thursday that he remains "enthusiastic about Google TV," while announcing plans to scale back marketing for the Revue Google TV set-top box.







Logitech was one of Google's launch partners for the Google TV platform. However, when the platform was released last November, reviewers criticized it for being complicated and confusing. Late last year, technology journalist Walt Mossberg named Google TV his second worst reviewed product of 2010.



Last December, on the heels of a report that Google TV hardware makers' plans had been held up by Google, sources from one of Logitech's suppliers claimed that the company had suspended shipments of the Revue while waiting for a Google TV update. However, Logitech issued a statement denying that Google had asked it to halt production of the device.



"Logitech is currently meeting the inventory needs of its retail customers, continuing to ship products on schedule to meet their holiday and post-holiday demand," a spokesperson said at the time.



For its part, Apple has seen growing success with its second-generation Apple TV. In December, the company announced that it had sold 1 million units of the device, which went on sale in September. According to one analyst report, total shipments of the device reached 2 million last month.
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  • Reply 1 of 43
    leeroyleeroy Posts: 27member
    White iPhone gives me a fat.
  • Reply 2 of 43
    That's just the beginning of the pain Apple's about to rain on Samsung.



    Google TV? Not even worth mentioning, but definitely worth a
  • Reply 3 of 43
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Analyst Brian White of Ticonderoga Securities sees Apple selling between 1 to 1.5 million units of the white iPhone 4 in both the June and September quarters.



    Each quarter, not total for both quarter, right?



    Quote:

    With 2010 purchases of $5.68 billion in components, Apple was Samsung's second biggest customer.



    Who was the biggest?



    Quote:

    Logitech missed its estimate of $18 million in Google TV product and peripheral sales in the fiscal fourth quarter by over 70 percent with just $5 million in sales, GigaOM reports. Last quarter, the company reported $22 million in sales of Google TV-related products. To make matters worse, inventory for the devices rose 28 percent last quarter.



    [?]



    For its part, Apple has seen growing success with its second-generation Apple TV. In December, the company announced that it had sold 1 million units of the device, which went on sale in September. According to one analyst report, total shipments of the device reached 2 million last month.



    1 million AppleTVs equals $99 million for the holiday quarter. 780,000 AppleTVs equals $77 million for last quarter. It?s 15x the Google TV ?s revenue but it?s still a slim advantage to the company that can truly connect the HEC in a way that makes sense.
  • Reply 4 of 43
    joshongjoshong Posts: 51member
    Solipsism, I made a couple edits to the article, but I'll reply here too.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Each quarter, not total for both quarter, right?



    Yeah, that's each quarter, up through the launch of the iPhone 5 (which he expects after the September quarter).



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Who was the biggest?



    Sony
  • Reply 5 of 43
    capnbobcapnbob Posts: 388member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Google TV



    Logitech missed its estimate of $18 million in Google TV product and peripheral sales in the fiscal fourth quarter by over 70 percent with just $5 million in sales, GigaOM reports. Last quarter, the company reported $22 million in sales of Google TV-related products. To make matters worse, inventory for the devices rose 28 percent last quarter.



    For its part, Apple has seen growing success with its second-generation Apple TV. In December, the company announced that it had sold 1 million units of the device, which went on sale in September.



    So that implies that at $300 per unit, they sold ~16,000 units. If they only count the wholesale price then it might be 25,000 units at about $200 per unit. Either way - pitiful vs. 1M ATV2s.
  • Reply 6 of 43
    Is the white iPad 2 thicker than the black iPad 2?
  • Reply 7 of 43
    my wife ran to the apple store last evening and got a 32gb white iphone.

    They are very cool looking, and with the orange bumper she got it

    kinda makes me think of an orange push-up treat or something.

    The bumper fit fine and we didn't notice any increased thickness

    now i have her 32gb black iphone4 on craigslist to ease the cost of changing....
  • Reply 8 of 43
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MagicFingers View Post


    The bumper fit fine and we didn't notice any increased thickness



    I think it would fit more tightly? On my wife black iPhone it's a bit loose, not as tight as I would like.
  • Reply 9 of 43
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by matrix07 View Post


    I think it would fit more tightly? On my wife black iPhone it's a bit loose, not as tight as I would like.



    maybe, but .2mm is very small
  • Reply 10 of 43
    How much heavier is the thicker white iPhone? (this probably varies across Verizon/3G models...)
  • Reply 11 of 43
    irontedironted Posts: 129member
    Apple sold 2 million Apple TVs at $99 a piece. That's $200 million to the top line.



    So who wins?
  • Reply 12 of 43
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IronTed View Post


    Apple sold 2 million Apple TVs at $99 a piece. That's $200 million to the top line.



    So who wins?



    Google will copy Apple and Android will be able to AirPlay to GoogleTV soon. You heard it here first.
  • Reply 13 of 43
    daharderdaharder Posts: 1,580member
    If the Case Won't Fit... You Failed With It!



    j/k
  • Reply 14 of 43
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 6,860member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post


    If the Case Won't Fit... You Failed With It!



    j/k



    Oh boy, how many did you buy this time? 27? 81? Is that each, or in total?
  • Reply 15 of 43
    "White iPhone 4 is 0.2mm thicker"



    Why yes, this stuff DOES all sound pretty silly sometimes.
  • Reply 16 of 43
    al_bundyal_bundy Posts: 1,525member
    samsung made their android fans mad. earlier in the year or last year they shipped a phone with 2.1 and promised a 2.2 upgrade. months went by with no upgrade. turned out they made some big customizations to the software that made upgrading to 2.2 very hard. needless to say most people buying android want HTC or Motorola and prefer Verizon
  • Reply 17 of 43
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post


    If the Case Won't Fit... You Failed With It!



    j/k



    Using it for a month I didn't notice it no more but the first few days.. boy.. it was annoying.
  • Reply 18 of 43
    garamondgaramond Posts: 109member
    The design/functionality is also changed, just look at the top of the phone, frontside. There's an extra hole above the mic.
  • Reply 19 of 43
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post


    Nottom Line - If the Case Won't Fit... You Failed With It!



    j/k



    Nottom Line... that sounds like a train route in England.
  • Reply 20 of 43
    [greg][greg] Posts: 78member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Logitech missed its estimate of $18 million in Google TV product and peripheral sales in the fiscal fourth quarter by over 70 percent with just $5 million in sales, GigaOM reports. Last quarter, the company reported $22 million in sales of Google TV-related products. To make matters worse, inventory for the devices rose 28 percent last quarter.



    Hah so all the Engadget-trolling Google fanboys bought their Google TVs last quarter... At least when Apple fanboys buy something they end up with an awesome product, and not a crap one they have to pretend to like.
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