Steve Jobs outlines Apple's efforts to clarify iPhone location tracking issue

2»

Comments

  • Reply 21 of 29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zindako View Post


    If you think humans had the technology to visit the moon and fly back to earth 60 years ago, seems you're the bigger fool.



    Well, yes. Except that we didn't go to the moon 60 years ago (1951), we went to the moon 42 years ago (July 20, 1969). The Saturn V didn't fly until late 1967, "only" 44 years ago.



    60 years ago no one had even put anything into Earth Orbit. Sputnik 1, igniting the Space Race, was launched only 54 years ago (October 4, 1957).
     0Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 22 of 29
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,657member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zindako View Post


    If you think humans had the technology to visit the moon and fly back to earth 60 years ago, seems you're the bigger fool.



    As someone else posted, it wasn't 60 years ago, but even if it was, I think in many ways we were better equipped to do it then than we are now. We were producing many more engineers back then and as a society, we had much more respect for science and engineering. While we had far fewer people in college, the colleges that did exist, including many public colleges, had much higher standards. City College of New York (as just one example), which was free to anyone who could get in, had one of the toughest engineering schools in the country. Of course, most of the design work to get us into space was done by the German rocket engineers we captured at the end of WWII.



    You can take off your tin hat now. I suppose along with believing that we didn't go to the moon (which will soon be proven either way when the Chinese do a flyby), you also believe that 9/11 was an inside job and that Obama's birth certificate is still phony. Maybe you believe that we were able to enter the computer age only because we "stole" technology from space aliens after they crash landed in the 1950s.
     0Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 23 of 29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zindako View Post


    If you think humans had the technology to visit the moon and fly back to earth 60 years ago, seems you're the bigger fool.



    Time to get back on your medication. ;-)
     0Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 24 of 29
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    Must be alot nicer living in a place that spends millions to honor a bullshit useless monarchy that has no real power.





    BTW here is a brief summary of the royal finances:



    http://www.usatoday.com/money/2011-0...g-wealth_n.htm
     0Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 25 of 29
    ljocampoljocampo Posts: 657member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    Must be alot nicer living in a place that spends millions to honor a bullshit useless monarchy that has no real power.



    It's their culture. It's their history. It's their money. Why are you so concerned? I'm an American and it's unfortunate to see Americans top the list globally in judge-mentality. I guess (by your handle) you are too young to know better, but age really has little to do with it.



    We all need to grow up and mind our own business!
     0Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 26 of 29
    ljocampoljocampo Posts: 657member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    It's a bit disingenuous to claim that a list of nearby hotspots and cell towers "are not telling you anything about your location." Just look at the result when you plot them on a map.



    I think you missed the point. It's not your location. I do believe he said it's an aggregate of many iphone locations. How is anyone going to tell which one is yours?
     0Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 27 of 29


    deleted

     0Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 28 of 29
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post


    I think you missed the point. It's not your location. I do believe he said it's an aggregate of many iphone locations. How is anyone going to tell which one is yours?



    I believe it's not your phone or other people's phones, but a list (downloaded from Apple) of the precise locations of WiFi hotspots in your general vicinity. But you can deduce from what parts of this database the phone download/cached where the user was.
     0Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 29 of 29
    libertyforalllibertyforall Posts: 1,418member
    Sure ironic that Jobs forgot to mention this Apple patent:



    Location Histories for Location Aware Devices



    http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...DN/20110051665



    more background:

    http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/security...r-was-patented
     0Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
Sign In or Register to comment.