Or, take your rate, double it, and add a bunch of zeros.
If you want to calculate it exactly, start with the weight of the moon in the Roman units of Uncia, multiply it by the inverse of Plank's constant, and then take the number from your annual W2 form, except in England.
I don't really care about people knowing how much I make as I know it really sucks for my profession. Compared to other professions though, it is pretty good. I plan on leaving my company to get a real job with real money as soon as the econmey recovers and jobs become available elsewhere. I hoping I can find a mac job!
i'm a `developer`. basically, around the office if they have a prob with an ActServPage or html they ask me. Or if they need a little custom app made in rb, they ask me. (someday i'll leave this job, and make games professionally. someday...)
i get $13 b4 taxes (~10 after), and i work 40hr weeks. But only during the summer. during school, i "go" to "class." last year i pulled in like 7 large b4 taxes. i dont know how much taxes really get outta me, cuz i always seem to get rebates, and i tend to just look at the bottom line. the money is enough to support my little drug habit, so i dont really need much more.
and as far as benefits go, i frquently love my job. i can take it real easy. no one really bothers me about deadlines or anything. and i cant get fired cuz my aunt is my boss' boss. gotta love nepotism.
<strong>Splinemodel, what exactly is graphic design consulting?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have ins within the construction industry, and many of these companys like to produce "flyers", brochures, etc. I do this. The thing that sets me apart is that I can do 3d, and for construction that allows me to usefully do things that other designers can't. Pipes & CAD visualizations, namely.
I'm a consultant because I work for myself, they just pay me for my services. Short term work.
The genesis of the US aversion to sharing salary is actually the result of employers paying their employees what they can negotiate. Two employees of the same caliber will make different amounts based on their skills at selling their talents. The employers therefore "discourage" their workers from sharing salary figures as then those making less have an extra bargaining chip the next time around.
That said, I as an employee have always encouraged salary sharing as he who has the most knowledge going into a negotiation gets the better deal. My stats:
Profession: Software Engineer
Age: 28
Experience: 9 years
Salary: $110k/yr, 60000 options, 3 wks vacation
Employer: Withheld (against the rules to share salary data)
<strong>shadyg, whats average for a SoftEng'r? Do you know how much entry-level gets? I'm a SE student now and was wondering what i have to look forward to.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Depends on the industry. Boring stuff usually gets you more, fun stuff pays less, at least at first. Hone your negotiating skills if you've really got a SE degree. Companies are finally coming around to treating software development as a business, and engineers are becoming more valuable than computer scientists. Rarely does a brand new technology need to be invented, but very commonly does existing technology need to be assembled in a new way. Someone with an engineering mindset should be able to sell himself on the basis of predictable, reliable delivery.
As to your actual question, well in today's climate, don't expect more than $40k to start. You may get more -- I got $55k right out of college in a better market but minus 6 years of inflation -- but don't be disappointed to take less now. The best move is getting impressive entries in your resume. Doesn't hurt to be able to walk into a software store and point to a title you worked on either.
medically discharged from military...$550 a month tax free forever. while in school full time I get an additional $650 a month tax free and the government pays the bill of classes,books, and supplies. majoring in finance.
I get an occasional side job with pay rates that vary from minimum wage to $12 an hour.
That and I smooch off the wife. So whatever all that amounts to I don't know and really don't care as long as my wife is happy and I get quality time with my mac.
Comments
Hour rate * 2000 = Annual salary
Or, take your rate, double it, and add a bunch of zeros.
If you want to calculate it exactly, start with the weight of the moon in the Roman units of Uncia, multiply it by the inverse of Plank's constant, and then take the number from your annual W2 form, except in England.
edit: except is not expect. Brain Farht.
[ 07-02-2002: Message edited by: GardenOfEarthlyDelights ]</p>
Age: 25
Profession: Web/Software Developer
Salary: 60k/year
Employer: Uncle Sam
REAL Employer: (you, my dear tax payers )
<strong>
Profession: Web/Software Developer
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Any good with ASPs?? They are doing my head in. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
J :cool:
<strong>
Any good with ASPs?? They are doing my head in. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
J :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>
Active Server Pages? Yeah, I know ASP pretty well actually. If you have any questions, email or PM me.
<strong>
Active Server Pages? Yeah, I know ASP pretty well actually. If you have any questions, email or PM me. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks Willoughby!
You have a (rather lengthy) PM!
J :cool:
you know me.
Age: 31
occupation: Lawyer (starting my second year).
salary: $135k + bonus + benefits (like an office
I get to live in rather than going home).
Hours: lots and lots.
Student loans: you don't want to know.
Thoth
<strong>PS-Hey, Paul-$10/hr would be a great fourth year wage in Iowa!</strong><hr></blockquote>
that must suck!!! but over in NYC, 10$/hr is close to nothing... :eek: <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
Secondly, since I don't know any of you from Adam I'll tell, too.
32 yrs. old
Graphic Designer (although I tend to do more typesetting than I'd like at this job)
$18.50/hr. which is like $38,500/yr. but with O.T. it'll be around $45k.
Basic health and dental
SAR-SEP (joke of a retirement fund)
Also, I do more "nose to the grindstone" work than anyone else in the office, yet I'm the least paid... go figure.
Yearly Salary: 52,000
Age: 24
Experience: 3 years ( 2 with C++ )
I don't really care about people knowing how much I make as I know it really sucks for my profession. Compared to other professions though, it is pretty good. I plan on leaving my company to get a real job with real money as soon as the econmey recovers and jobs become available elsewhere. I hoping I can find a mac job!
i get $13 b4 taxes (~10 after), and i work 40hr weeks. But only during the summer. during school, i "go" to "class." last year i pulled in like 7 large b4 taxes. i dont know how much taxes really get outta me, cuz i always seem to get rebates, and i tend to just look at the bottom line. the money is enough to support my little drug habit, so i dont really need much more.
and as far as benefits go, i frquently love my job. i can take it real easy. no one really bothers me about deadlines or anything. and i cant get fired cuz my aunt is my boss' boss. gotta love nepotism.
income: 55k + bonuses
401k in the works but not there yet ( this is a big pisser).
4 weeks total time off.
office with a 12th floor view of downtown dallas ( very nice).
good overall working environment.
[ 07-02-2002: Message edited by: running with scissors ]</p>
<strong>Where did you go to school?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Me? Since the school was very small, this may
reveal my identity, but I'm the only one in my class who used a Mac, so screw it.
Washington & Lee University, School of Law
Lexington, Virginia. The best law school you've never heard of, if rankings mean anything.
Thoth
<strong>Splinemodel, what exactly is graphic design consulting?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have ins within the construction industry, and many of these companys like to produce "flyers", brochures, etc. I do this. The thing that sets me apart is that I can do 3d, and for construction that allows me to usefully do things that other designers can't. Pipes & CAD visualizations, namely.
I'm a consultant because I work for myself, they just pay me for my services. Short term work.
<strong>
Any good with ASPs?? They are doing my head in. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
J :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>
Application Service Provider or Active Server Pages?
That said, I as an employee have always encouraged salary sharing as he who has the most knowledge going into a negotiation gets the better deal. My stats:
Profession: Software Engineer
Age: 28
Experience: 9 years
Salary: $110k/yr, 60000 options, 3 wks vacation
Employer: Withheld (against the rules to share salary data)
Freelance Rate: $125/hr
Perks: Work from home
-- ShadyG
<strong>shadyg, whats average for a SoftEng'r? Do you know how much entry-level gets? I'm a SE student now and was wondering what i have to look forward to.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Depends on the industry. Boring stuff usually gets you more, fun stuff pays less, at least at first. Hone your negotiating skills if you've really got a SE degree. Companies are finally coming around to treating software development as a business, and engineers are becoming more valuable than computer scientists. Rarely does a brand new technology need to be invented, but very commonly does existing technology need to be assembled in a new way. Someone with an engineering mindset should be able to sell himself on the basis of predictable, reliable delivery.
As to your actual question, well in today's climate, don't expect more than $40k to start. You may get more -- I got $55k right out of college in a better market but minus 6 years of inflation -- but don't be disappointed to take less now. The best move is getting impressive entries in your resume. Doesn't hurt to be able to walk into a software store and point to a title you worked on either.
-- ShadyG
I get an occasional side job with pay rates that vary from minimum wage to $12 an hour.
That and I smooch off the wife. So whatever all that amounts to I don't know and really don't care as long as my wife is happy and I get quality time with my mac.
Oh yea, I am 24.
[ 07-02-2002: Message edited by: ijerry ]</p>