Steve Jobs to present iCloud, iOS 5, Lion at Apple's June 6 WWDC keynote

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  • Reply 121 of 162
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by Ecphorizer View Post


    PS: You new sig contains some very helpful advice. I had simply copied the ~/Library folder to my side bar but your trick works better.



    I'm glad you found it useful. I was showing all files but that just looks sloppy.

    Code:


    defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE



  • Reply 122 of 162
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Originally Posted by maccherry View Post


    Apple is going to show them how it's done!

    GO HEAT!!!



    And here's now it's not done.



    It's like everyone is assuming Apple's success has something to do with the Stevenotes so they're making their executives get up there and pretend to be charismatic. Instead of terrifying.
  • Reply 123 of 162
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    And here's now it's not done.



    It's like everyone is assuming Apple's success has something to do with the Stevenotes so they're making their executives get up there and pretend to be charismatic. Instead of terrifying.



    There are so many avenues in which to make wisecracks. That isn't as scary as Samsung's CES 2011 presentation but it's so fucking cheesy. Just show us how it works, no smoke and mirror, technology-based slight-of-hand maneuvering.



    If Jobs pulled a stunt like that where a video of him an iPhone from behind an iPad without him actually opening the device the pundits and dissenter would be enraged crying foul and claiming it was false advertising.
  • Reply 124 of 162
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    There are so many avenues in which to make wisecracks. That isn't as scary as Samsung's CES 2011 presentation but it's so fucking cheesy. Just show us how it works, no smoke and mirror, technology-based slight-of-hand maneuvering.



    If Jobs pulled a stunt like that where a video of him an iPhone from behind an iPad without him actually opening the device the pundits and dissenter would be enraged crying foul and claiming it was false advertising.



    Apple gets slammed for excessive showmanship, the RDF, overuse of superlatives, etc., but compared to the likes of Samsung and Asus they're a model of decorum and straight talk.



    But, unfortunately, the die is cast regarding Apple's status as a triumph of marketing, so you'll never read about another company's ludicrous theatrics as somehow reflecting on the products they sell. As far as the popular media goes, Apple just owns that and it saves time if you don't have to think about your angle when you're writing on deadline.
  • Reply 125 of 162
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member
    It's about damn time the stock started moving up.
  • Reply 126 of 162
    alfiejralfiejr Posts: 1,524member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Then what would be the point of buying an iDevice? It isn't happening ever.



    huh? imagine having iOS apps running on your Mac desktop/laptop (those that don't need a gyro) instead of today's widgets in Dashboard. they would be vastly superior in function, and there are so many more. also accessing an app's database from both desktop and iOS device for whatever your are using it for. would be very handy. would sell more of both macs and iOS devices.
  • Reply 127 of 162
    suddenly newtonsuddenly newton Posts: 13,819member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Why are you on this site, then?



    Lion. iOS 5. Cloud services.



    That's everything. If you're "bored" by them, you really have no reason to be here.



    Don't respond to it; that only makes it worse
  • Reply 128 of 162
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,403member
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    As a reminder to all who get annoyed with the trolls, if yo scroll to the top of the page on the left side is a link to your User CP. Once there you can create an "ignore" list where you enter the name of the offender. From then on those posts won't be visible. Rumor has it that a future version of vBulletin (the comments engine) will notify people when they are on five or more "ignore" lists. And "ignore" hall of shame is in the works as well that will add some word or phrase like "IGNORED BY 50 COMMENTERS" under their avatar.



    I would be careful, if I were AI, about implementing something like that. 'Bad' can drive out 'good' (ref. Gresham's Law in economics).



    I hate Ignore lists. They're equivalent to saying, "if we pretend that a problem doesn't exist, it'll go away."
  • Reply 129 of 162
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    I would be careful, if I were AI, about implementing something like that. 'Bad' can drive out 'good' (ref. Gresham's Law in economics).



    I hate Ignore lists. They're equivalent to saying, "if we pretend that a problem doesn't exist, it'll go away."



    Although, in the case of internet forums and well implemented ignoring, it's literally true.



    The trouble, of course, being that there are always plenty of people willing to go to war. Myself, the ignore function just lowers my blood pressure. Now if we could just get meta-ignore, where quoted posts were also suppressed.
  • Reply 130 of 162
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
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    Originally Posted by Alfiejr View Post


    huh? imagine having iOS apps running on your Mac desktop/laptop (those that don't need a gyro)



    Or GPS, or two cameras, or a compass, or...



    Quote:

    would sell more of both macs and iOS devices.



    Would sell far fewer iOS devices and barely any more Macs.
  • Reply 131 of 162
    nhtnht Posts: 4,522member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    And here's now it's not done.



    It's like everyone is assuming Apple's success has something to do with the Stevenotes so they're making their executives get up there and pretend to be charismatic. Instead of terrifying.



    O-M-G.



    Then again, he's the very rich chairman of ASUS and we're not. And it's a semi-cool concept. Not sure I like the execution.
  • Reply 132 of 162
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post


    It's about damn time the stock started moving up.



    Yeah, what the heck happened today? Just WWDC speculation? Huge jump.
  • Reply 133 of 162
    secruosersecruoser Posts: 17member
    iCloud sounds to me like a system to prevent music piracy.



    I don't believe in copyrights. It's a capitalist by-product.



    "If I have seen further it is only by standing on the shoulders of giants." - Isaac Newton
  • Reply 134 of 162
    ecphorizerecphorizer Posts: 533member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    I would be careful, if I were AI, about implementing something like that. 'Bad' can drive out 'good' (ref. Gresham's Law in economics).



    I hate Ignore lists. They're equivalent to saying, "if we pretend that a problem doesn't exist, it'll go away."



    Of course. I personally have only six names on my ignore list; two of which were spammers rather than trolls.
  • Reply 135 of 162
    swissmac2swissmac2 Posts: 216member
    Who was the idiot author of this piece of modern journalism? For heaven's sake... it isn't "more clear" it's "clearer". People's ability to speak or write English is deteriorating fast. The word goes:



    clear - clearer - clearest.



    That's the pattern for most adjectives, but there are a few irregulars and these are the ones that need an extra word. Eg



    spectacular - more spectacular - most spectacular.



    I don't expect everyone to get such things right, just journalists who are supposed to be specialists in the use of words. These people at least should know the difference, but increasingly they don't, it seems.
  • Reply 136 of 162
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
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    Originally Posted by charlituna View Post


    So the company started having other folks on the stage to show that there are other minds involved.



    Well now that everybody knows it's a team effort, and that's all settled, Steve can go back to doing them by himself because he's just the best presenter!
  • Reply 137 of 162
    onhkaonhka Posts: 1,025member
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    Yeah, what the heck happened today? Just WWDC speculation? Huge jump.



    No. Just that Steve is going to be leading the pack.
  • Reply 138 of 162
    alfiejralfiejr Posts: 1,524member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Would sell far fewer iOS devices and barely any more Macs.



    why would being able to run many iOS apps on your Mac hurt sales of either? making iOS apps even more useful than now, and therefore Apple hardware of all kinds more useful than now. it would be a bonus, not a loss. got a reason for your declaration that makes any sense?



    btw, your desktop's fixed location can be specified by you, no GPS needed. for MacBooks, Apple might add GPS and 3G in future models anyway for obvious reasons.
  • Reply 139 of 162
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
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    Originally Posted by Secruoser View Post


    iCloud sounds to me like a system to prevent music piracy.



    I don't believe in copyrights. It's a capitalist by-product.



    "If I have seen further it is only by standing on the shoulders of giants." - Isaac Newton



    Um, right but Apple are capitalists. You probably should use the Soviet Era Computers. Good luck to you sir.
  • Reply 140 of 162
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alfiejr View Post


    why would being able to run many iOS apps on your Mac hurt sales of either? making iOS apps even more useful than now, and therefore Apple hardware of all kinds more useful than now. it would be a bonus, not a loss. got a reason for your declaration that makes any sense?



    btw, your desktop's fixed location can be specified by you, no GPS needed. for MacBooks, Apple might add GPS and 3G in future models anyway for obvious reasons.



    I don't directly agree with Tallest Skil but I certainly agree with him indirectly.



    Just look at iPhone/Touch apps on the iPad. It's the same primary I/O just a different size and yet it's a very poor experience. Now imagine that switched to an even larger display and then having to use a mouse instead of touch interface.



    If there is one thing we've seen Apple try to avoid over the years it's a bad user experience, which is probably why they Retina Display-compliant Phone/Touch apps to run in the old 480x320 resolution. They want apps to be native. The fact they included it at all was because there was no app market for the iPad but I bet if they could back to January 2010 they wouldn't have included that option at all.



    What I'd like to see at WWDC next week is an SDK that can create a single universal app that is idealized for the iPhone/Touch, iPad and Mac UIs.
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