Nokia's market share has been going downhill for some time now, but Apple is not a big factor in this. It is Samsung (and to a lesser extent, Android OS in general) who has gobbled up Nokia's market share. Even Samsung's own Bada OS has 8% market share in France, for instance. No matter what happens, Apple's market share is going nowhere. I would be surprised if they get even 7% worldwide.
Nokia's market share has been going downhill for some time now, but Apple is not a big factor in this. It is Samsung (and to a lesser extent, Android OS in general) who has gobbled up Nokia's market share. Even Samsung's own Bada OS has 8% market share in France, for instance. No matter what happens, Apple's market share is going nowhere. I would be surprised if they get even 7% worldwide.
Your ID says all that needs to be said to show that you are biased and not objective. Your agenda is showing.
With Nokia moving to the Windows camp, it very much looks like the smartphone pecking order is due for a major change over the next 12 months.
This would be the perfect time for Apple to cash in on the "move away from Symbian" mad rush, by releasing a cheaper iPhone.
I really hope the cheap iPhone rumors play out.
Also - I wonder if all this talk of iPhone 4GS or iPhone 5, whatever it is called, being put off to September is somehow connected to poorer than expected sales of the Verizon iPhone. If Verizon/Apple is sitting on tons of iPhone 4 CDMA inventory, it makes sense for them to delay the launch of the new iPhone till they can get rid of the inventory.
PS - I am not claiming that sales of the CDMA iPhone are bad - just saying that they might be less than expectations.
With Nokia moving to the Windows camp, it very much looks like the smartphone pecking order is due for a major change over the next 12 months.
This would be the perfect time for Apple to cash in on the "move away from Symbian" mad rush, by releasing a cheaper iPhone.
I really hope the cheap iPhone rumors play out.
Also - I wonder if all this talk of iPhone 4GS or iPhone 5, whatever it is called, being put off to September is somehow connected to poorer than expected sales of the Verizon iPhone. If Verizon/Apple is sitting on tons of iPhone 4 CDMA inventory, it makes sense for them to delay the launch of the new iPhone till they can get rid of the inventory.
PS - I am not claiming that sales of the CDMA iPhone are bad - just saying that they might be less than expectations.
Apple already sells a cheaper iPhone-- it's called the 3GS. And when an updated iPhone 4 or an all new iPhone 5 are released, the cheap, prior generation iPhone will ratchet up accordingly. This has always been Apple strategy with regards to product stratification-- add value to the top end, migrate features and performance down the line, all within a pretty stable pricing structure.
Apple already sells a cheaper iPhone-- it's called the 3GS. And when an updated iPhone 4 or an all new iPhone 5 are released, the cheap, prior generation iPhone will ratchet up accordingly. This has always been Apple strategy with regards to product stratification-- add value to the top end, migrate features and performance down the line, all within a pretty stable pricing structure.
You still seem to be confused with the subsidised pricing. The iPhone 3GS sells for NZ$919, which is US$750. That is not much different to the iPhone 4 pricing, and significantly more expensive than some of cheaper Android phones the poster was probably referring to.
You still seem to be confused with the subsidised pricing. The iPhone 3GS sells for NZ$919, which is US$750. That is not much different to the iPhone 4 pricing, and significantly more expensive than some of cheaper Android phones the poster was probably referring to.
Talk to your local provider, because if they take a phone they're buying for $450 US and selling it for $750 US, you're getting ripped off, and there's nothing Apple can do about it. If they sell a $150US phone and your provider sells it for $450, you'll still complain.
450USD is around 517 in Kiwi. Have you get jfanning to fly over to Bangkok? A Hong Kong-spec whole work for iPhone 3GS here sold around NZ$510. The package includes ear bud, box, USB cable and a wall charger. They are all unlocked from the factory so no jailbreaking required. Restore it with iTunes stateside and none would be the wiser.
And make that NZ$913 for iPhone 4. The same factory-unlocked set.
Talk to your local provider, because if they take a phone they're buying for $450 US and selling it for $750 US, you're getting ripped off, and there's nothing Apple can do about it. If they sell a $150US phone and your provider sells it for $450, you'll still complain.
Talk to my local provider? The price of the iPhone is set by Apple, Apple can do everything about it, these prices are apple.co.nz
450USD is around 517 in Kiwi. Have you get jfanning to fly over to Bangkok? A Hong Kong-spec whole work for iPhone 3GS here sold around NZ$510. The package includes ear bud, box, USB cable and a wall charger. They are all unlocked from the factory so no jailbreaking required. Restore it with iTunes stateside and none would be the wiser.
And make that NZ$913 for iPhone 4. The same factory-unlocked set.
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Nokia's market share has been going downhill for some time now, but Apple is not a big factor in this. It is Samsung (and to a lesser extent, Android OS in general) who has gobbled up Nokia's market share. Even Samsung's own Bada OS has 8% market share in France, for instance. No matter what happens, Apple's market share is going nowhere. I would be surprised if they get even 7% worldwide.
Your ID says all that needs to be said to show that you are biased and not objective. Your agenda is showing.
This would be the perfect time for Apple to cash in on the "move away from Symbian" mad rush, by releasing a cheaper iPhone.
I really hope the cheap iPhone rumors play out.
Also - I wonder if all this talk of iPhone 4GS or iPhone 5, whatever it is called, being put off to September is somehow connected to poorer than expected sales of the Verizon iPhone. If Verizon/Apple is sitting on tons of iPhone 4 CDMA inventory, it makes sense for them to delay the launch of the new iPhone till they can get rid of the inventory.
PS - I am not claiming that sales of the CDMA iPhone are bad - just saying that they might be less than expectations.
How so? Unless you think sunk costs matter?
It's not a sunk cost until you sink it.
With Nokia moving to the Windows camp, it very much looks like the smartphone pecking order is due for a major change over the next 12 months.
This would be the perfect time for Apple to cash in on the "move away from Symbian" mad rush, by releasing a cheaper iPhone.
I really hope the cheap iPhone rumors play out.
Also - I wonder if all this talk of iPhone 4GS or iPhone 5, whatever it is called, being put off to September is somehow connected to poorer than expected sales of the Verizon iPhone. If Verizon/Apple is sitting on tons of iPhone 4 CDMA inventory, it makes sense for them to delay the launch of the new iPhone till they can get rid of the inventory.
PS - I am not claiming that sales of the CDMA iPhone are bad - just saying that they might be less than expectations.
Apple already sells a cheaper iPhone-- it's called the 3GS. And when an updated iPhone 4 or an all new iPhone 5 are released, the cheap, prior generation iPhone will ratchet up accordingly. This has always been Apple strategy with regards to product stratification-- add value to the top end, migrate features and performance down the line, all within a pretty stable pricing structure.
Apple already sells a cheaper iPhone-- it's called the 3GS. And when an updated iPhone 4 or an all new iPhone 5 are released, the cheap, prior generation iPhone will ratchet up accordingly. This has always been Apple strategy with regards to product stratification-- add value to the top end, migrate features and performance down the line, all within a pretty stable pricing structure.
You still seem to be confused with the subsidised pricing. The iPhone 3GS sells for NZ$919, which is US$750. That is not much different to the iPhone 4 pricing, and significantly more expensive than some of cheaper Android phones the poster was probably referring to.
You still seem to be confused with the subsidised pricing. The iPhone 3GS sells for NZ$919, which is US$750. That is not much different to the iPhone 4 pricing, and significantly more expensive than some of cheaper Android phones the poster was probably referring to.
Talk to your local provider, because if they take a phone they're buying for $450 US and selling it for $750 US, you're getting ripped off, and there's nothing Apple can do about it. If they sell a $150US phone and your provider sells it for $450, you'll still complain.
And make that NZ$913 for iPhone 4. The same factory-unlocked set.
Talk to your local provider, because if they take a phone they're buying for $450 US and selling it for $750 US, you're getting ripped off, and there's nothing Apple can do about it. If they sell a $150US phone and your provider sells it for $450, you'll still complain.
Talk to my local provider? The price of the iPhone is set by Apple, Apple can do everything about it, these prices are apple.co.nz
iPhone 3GS NZ$919
iPhone 4 16GB NZ$1123
iPhone 4 32GB NZ$1328
450USD is around 517 in Kiwi. Have you get jfanning to fly over to Bangkok? A Hong Kong-spec whole work for iPhone 3GS here sold around NZ$510. The package includes ear bud, box, USB cable and a wall charger. They are all unlocked from the factory so no jailbreaking required. Restore it with iTunes stateside and none would be the wiser.
And make that NZ$913 for iPhone 4. The same factory-unlocked set.
Plus NZ$1700 flight, plus accommodation....
No thanks