AppleInsider Murder Solvers

in General Discussion edited January 2014
My cousin's has a friend who is investigating a murder. He been trying to find out the meaning of a clue left by the murderer. The victim had a penny on each shoulder. One penny was face up, and the other was face down. I know it's not much to go on, but any ideas? Can anyone think of any movie, literary or other references? It's not a joke. Didn't that Nielsen report say that Mac users were more likely to solve crimes online?


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    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    are you serious?
  • Reply 2 of 23
    carpetcarpet Posts: 17member
    He is serious. What the pennys mean I do not know...
  • Reply 3 of 23
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
    Yep, I'm serious. She asked if I had any idea about what it could mean. I was hoping someone here could make me look smarter than I actually am. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
  • Reply 4 of 23
    rick1138rick1138 Posts: 938member
    Here is a card game that uses face up and face down pennies:

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  • Reply 5 of 23
    ibrowseibrowse Posts: 1,749member
    Sounds like either some sort of sick thespian. Only media refrence I can think of is Two-Face from the Batman cartoon series. But that's not too logical.
  • Reply 6 of 23
    jeffyboyjeffyboy Posts: 1,055member
    Gang, it looks like we have another mystery on our hands!

  • Reply 7 of 23
    The murder victim constantly blabbered on and on. So the assailant killed the victim. The pennies symbolize that this was the only was for him to get his two cents in.
  • Reply 8 of 23
    jeffyboyjeffyboy Posts: 1,055member
    What were the years on the pennies?

    (Don't know where I'm going with this, but what the heck?)

  • Reply 9 of 23
    Were they shiny or dull?

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  • Reply 10 of 23
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    the two pennies were to pay Thantos for a ride across the river Hades in European culture.

    go watch "The Boondock Saints" to find out more.

    although they had pennies over the eyes in that one.
  • Reply 11 of 23
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    Can someone mock up a AppleInsider Myster Machine Van?
  • Reply 12 of 23
    First of all, trying to proscribe logical thought to a murderer is like trying to deposit cat food into a bank account. But, that said, he's probably just being clever -- as far as it goes, I'd guess that he was trying to say, "This is what he was worth to me!" -- but really I think he just wanted to kill somebody, and he's crazy.


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    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    for what it's worth here is my theory : the penny face up and face down is an hyperbole of Chance : i am sure that you played at face up and face down. For the guy Chance was a really important thing.
  • Reply 14 of 23
    macfenianmacfenian Posts: 276member
    Don't want to be a party pooper but is this public knowledge? Seems like something that I would not put in the papers.

    Maybe it's some sort of gang ritual? The ethnicity of the victim is important here as well. It could be something that you can find back in his own culture.
  • Reply 15 of 23
    g4dudeg4dude Posts: 1,016member
    [quote]Originally posted by Nebagakid:

    <strong>Can someone mock up a AppleInsider Myster Machine Van?</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Here you go. It took about 2 minutes.

  • Reply 16 of 23
    artman @_@artman @_@ Posts: 2,546member
    [quote]Originally posted by iBrowse:

    <strong>Sounds like either some sort of sick thespian. Only media refrence I can think of is Two-Face from the Batman cartoon series. But that's not too logical.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    No, the coins represented Two-Face's good and bad side. He'd flip the coin (face side scratched = bad, tails side = good) to decide what to do. Then after an evil deed he would leave the coin as a marker.

    Still, this is intriguing... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

  • Reply 17 of 23
    curiousuburbcuriousuburb Posts: 3,325member
    coins on the eyes is common in many cultures...

    discovery channel had a show about mummies recently and noted an excavation in central or south america with coins over the eyes

    when british pennies were huge (back in the days of farthings, IIRC) there was some tradition about covering the eyes of the deceased with them

    as mentioned above, two coins for the boatman across river charon to the underworld.

    but i've also heard the specific eye-covering pennies were so the gods would take the money and leave you your eyes for the afterlife...

    (kind of a reverse tooth fairy)

    shoulder mounted pennies (front, not top, we presume if the body was found horizontally) wouldn't seem to fit that pattern, but as has also been noted, psychopathic murderers aren't known for their einsteinian brains.

    might be pure misdirection.

    there's a thought, though... was the victim a shell game dealer or might he have otherwise used coins to scam "magic" three card monte?

    now if it'd been a US $20 gold coin on each shoulder, i'd send you to New Orleans.

    --- of course, you realize that if you DO ever solve this (like ask the killer if found), you'll have to post the answer to this thread so we can all sleep --- <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

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  • Reply 18 of 23
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    Need to call the "CSI" gang! Grissom would probably crack it. In 60 minutes, no less.
  • Reply 19 of 23
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    My two cents. He dropped some change by accident.
  • Reply 20 of 23
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
    I would have thought we had at least one Hannibal Lecter type in this group. Ah, well, it was worth a shot. At least I feel certain I can clear all of you of any involvement. No one slipped up and said something like: ?You mean you only found two pennies? There were actually three.?

    I have heard that there might be gang involvement. Don?t know how accurate that report is, however. I?ll let you know if Scoob and I find out anything else.
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