Inside iOS 5: New lock screen notifications, receding iMessage keyboard

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  • Reply 21 of 73
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,664member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jblenio View Post


    Can we PLEASE...PLEASE...PLEASE have improved calendar Event Alert options? At the moment, the OS only enables me to set a Event alert at 2 days prior to the date of the event.



    At the moment, the Event alert options are as follows:



    5 minutes before

    15 minutes before

    30 minutes before

    1 hour before

    2 hours before

    1 day before

    2 days before

    On date of event



    PLEASE...PLEASE...PLEASE add two more options:



    1 week before

    2 weeks before

    1 month before

    2 months before



    My reasoning is as follows:

    Let's say TODAY (June 25th, 2011) I found out about a band playing at the Shoreline Theater in Palo Alto, CA. That band is playing on August 20th, 2012, so the concert is over a year away. I would really like to go to that concert, but life gets really busy, I have a lot on my plate, so it's realistic it could slip my mind. If I am able to set an event alert a couple of weeks before, or a couple of months before, I will be able to pre plan well in advance, gather friends, buy tickets, etc. with plenty of time to spare.



    However, If I'm only reminded of that event two days before (as current Even alerts options are set), I may miss getting a ticket in time or I might plan something else on the same day, having completely forgotten about that date, because I had remembered it over a year earlier.



    Come on Apple. This is an easy addition to an updated OS.



    Respectfully,



    John



    Why not, in the rare instance that you need to reminded of something a good ways out before the event, just make a calendar entry for that? If you can make a calendar entry for "day of show", you can make a calendar entry a month or two weeks ahead for "buy tickets", I would think.



    You might consider that an unnecessary extra step, but typically calendar alerts are used to remind me about the thing upcoming, not to remind me to do something in preparation for the thing upcoming, which logically is its own calendar entry.
  • Reply 22 of 73
    rtm135rtm135 Posts: 310member
    what are you, the software police? let apple's overpaid lawyers worry about NDAs. these leaks hurt no one and serve to give apple feedback based on reactions.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joseph L View Post


    Don't these beta-testers have to sign an NDA?



    These kind of leaks hurt the entire Community, because the competition gets a head-start.



  • Reply 23 of 73
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,331member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by september11th View Post


    To be nitpicky on these things, those bigger notifications on the homescreen are pretty ugly with the glossy bubble. To me it looks like design from windows vista, or the old design I thought they were getting away from. Design today is more about straight lines, flat tones, like when you see the list on the homescreen.. It's more elegant. I wish they would unify some of their design choices.



    That metallic iCloud icon is straight up ugly. Not sure what they're thinking. I haven't seen the purple one but I feel it would be much nicer.





    As for the messaging keyboard dropping down, I can clarify how it works. If you are swiping in the message pane, the screen scrolls as normal, but as soon as you are swiping down and continue swiping into the keyboard, that is when it drops down. It's nice this way so you can scroll up a bit if you have to without the keyboard going away.



    The brushed metal iCloud icon in large looks decent, but at that size, you're right, it looks horrible. It's just too small to contain that kind of texture and look pleasing to the eye. Way too busy. Purple icon definitely looked better. Actually, ANYTHING besides brushd metal would look better.
  • Reply 24 of 73
    prof. peabodyprof. peabody Posts: 2,860member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jblenio View Post


    ... PLEASE...PLEASE...PLEASE add two more options:



    1 week before

    2 weeks before

    1 month before

    2 months before



    My reasoning is as follows:

    Let's say TODAY (June 25th, 2011) I found out about a band playing at the Shoreline Theater in Palo Alto, CA. That band is playing on August 20th, 2012, so the concert is over a year away. I would really like to go to that concert, but life gets really busy, I have a lot on my plate, so it's realistic it could slip my mind. If I am able to set an event alert a couple of weeks before, or a couple of months before, I will be able to pre plan well in advance, gather friends, buy tickets, etc. with plenty of time to spare.



    However, If I'm only reminded of that event two days before (as current Even alerts options are set), I may miss getting a ticket in time or I might plan something else on the same day, having completely forgotten about that date, because I had remembered it over a year earlier. ...



    No offence but this sounds ridiculous to me.



    If that's really how you use a calendar, then you are 'doing it wrong' as they say. It's a calendar not a personal assistant, wife or manager.
  • Reply 25 of 73
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post


    The brushed metal iCloud icon in large looks decent, but at that size, you're right, it looks horrible. It's just too small to contain that kind of texture and look pleasing to the eye. Way too busy. Purple icon definitely looked better. Actually, ANYTHING besides brushd metal would look better.



    I agree with this evaluation.
  • Reply 26 of 73
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stelligent View Post


    Here's a link that ranks top US websites based of # of visitors: http://www.hitwise.com/us/datacenter...ard-10133.html. Amongst email providers, Yahoo is on top. Perhaps one should combine Hotmail and MSN, but that still trails Yahoo. At the same time, visitors ≠ # of users. Furthermore, this does not take into account the rest of the world. I'm pretty sure not one of these companies has released reliable numbers about their email users.



    How can people use Yahoo!?!? Who is forcing these people to do something so horrible? Google may have anti-trust issues but Yahoo should be arraigned on torture charges for the UI alone.
  • Reply 27 of 73
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bdkennedy1 View Post


    All the competition needs to do is sign up to be an Apple developer.



    True, but one person trying to root through every feature and how it might play out in the real world is not as powerful as someone posting features/interactions and such, and then having a large internet sounding board to think through various ideas. It's definitely not as simple as you seem to make it.
  • Reply 28 of 73
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    While it's not exactly clear whether the feature was present in the initial iOS 5.0 beta, developers evaluating the updated iMessage app in beta 2 note that the keyboard will gracefully recede downwards and out of view when scrolling upwards in a message history.



    Developers? Or rather, AppleInsider editors with developer accounts?
  • Reply 29 of 73
    n42n42 Posts: 34member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post


    No offence but this sounds ridiculous to me.



    If that's really how you use a calendar, then you are 'doing it wrong' as they say. It's a calendar not a personal assistant, wife or manager.



    This is a simple request. Saying he's "holding it wrong" makes you look like a jerk.
  • Reply 30 of 73
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cloudgazer View Post


    How can people use Yahoo!?!? Who is forcing these people to do something so horrible? Google may have anti-trust issues but Yahoo should be arraigned on torture charges for the UI alone.



    Far as I can tell yahoo mail looks exactly the same in IOS and MacOS mail.app as any other email.



    Ohhh, you mean you still use a web browser? Who is forcing you to do something so horrible?
  • Reply 31 of 73
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cy_starkman View Post


    Far as I can tell yahoo mail looks exactly the same in IOS and MacOS mail.app as any other email.



    Ohhh, you mean you still use a web browser? Who is forcing you to do something so horrible?



    Of course I don't, but apparently millions of people do . http://www.hitwise.com/us/datacenter...ard-10133.html Shows yahoo mail the 5th most popular website in the US, and those aren't people using POP or IMAP, those are bone fide visual victims.
  • Reply 32 of 73
    stelligentstelligent Posts: 2,680member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cloudgazer View Post


    How can people use Yahoo!?!? Who is forcing these people to do something so horrible? Google may have anti-trust issues but Yahoo should be arraigned on torture charges for the UI alone.



    Someone said something about "to each his own". They also have 3 different UIs. Which one are you going to arraign them on?



    But, seriously, many people likely have multiple email accounts. I have like 15 myself, and facebook accounts to match. Each account has 14 friends.
  • Reply 33 of 73
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post


    No offence but this sounds ridiculous to me.



    If that's really how you use a calendar, then you are 'doing it wrong' as they say. It's a calendar not a personal assistant, wife or manager.



    Doesn't MacOS calendar allow for more definable alerts, i recall having alerts out to a week or maybe more for important events.



    I also find the two day max tedious, as well as the two alert max. Why have any max? I frequently want an alert on monday so I can advise work of the blocked out time later in the week. Then on the day, then 2hours before, then 30min.



    What is so hard to understand? From a code perspective it is nothing. Alerts exist, repeating alerts exist. Drop the max and pop up a date scroller, it is all there
  • Reply 34 of 73
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cloudgazer View Post


    Of course I don't, but apparently millions of people do . http://www.hitwise.com/us/datacenter...ard-10133.html Shows yahoo mail the 5th most popular website in the US, and those aren't people using POP or IMAP, those are bone fide visual victims.



    Yeah I know, i see them suffering every day, travelers mostly. Now here's a curious thing. Hotmail's attachment up/down a few months back stopped working on Google Chrome.



    I'm yahoomail (since 1995-6 or something). Gmail/ymail -shrug-, but hotmail f&$k sake that thing is a mess and every revision it gets worse.
  • Reply 35 of 73
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,664member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Matthew Yohe View Post


    True, but one person trying to root through every feature and how it might play out in the real world is not as powerful as someone posting features/interactions and such, and then having a large internet sounding board to think through various ideas. It's definitely not as simple as you seem to make it.



    If what we're talking about is "the competition" looking to steal ideas, then of course they're going to get a copy and root through every feature. In that scenario, relying on second hand reports and the musings of internet pundits would be ludicrous. I can't imagine why you'd think that casual second hand reporting wouldn't be "as powerful" as actually looking at the code.



    Did you imagine that Google or MS or RIM are too pressed for time to assign anyone, or many someones, to keeping up with what Apple is doing, and need to get things handed to them by rumor sites? Do you figure that Apple relies on what Gizmodo or Engadget have to say about Android or BB or WP7 to get a sense of the competitive landscape?
  • Reply 36 of 73
    kotatsukotatsu Posts: 1,010member
    Hopefully someday Apple will support GMail properly. Having to go through the web interface just to flag spam, star a message, or apply a label is utterly retarded. This Apple/Google hate fest really needs to end.
  • Reply 37 of 73
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    Hopefully someday Apple will support GMail properly. Having to go through the web interface just to flag spam, star a message, or apply a label is utterly retarded. This Apple/Google hate fest really needs to end.



    I'd love that, but don't you mean that you hope that Google will support Apple properly rather than the other way around? As far as I know Google haven't opened up their custom API for accessing GMail.
  • Reply 38 of 73
    prof. peabodyprof. peabody Posts: 2,860member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by n42 View Post


    This is a simple request. Saying he's "holding it wrong" makes you look like a jerk.



    He wants to be reminded of an event two years before it happens for cripes sake and was going on a long annoying tirade against the software maker for not allowing it.



    Fine. I'm a jerk (but he's an idiot).



    At the very least, he fails to understand the concept of "the reminder."
  • Reply 39 of 73
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    Hopefully someday Apple will support GMail properly. Having to go through the web interface just to flag spam, star a message, or apply a label is utterly retarded. This Apple/Google hate fest really needs to end.



    1) Apple added support for Gmail in OS X's Mail when Schmidt was on the Apple board, if not before, so I don't think you say these features aren't added because of a feud.



    2) Does Gmail standardized IMAP flags?



    3) I don't think Starring and Labels are part of IMAP but I might be wrong.



    4) Gmail and MobileMe are so adept at getting rid of spam that I can't say this is a problem for me. In fact, the biggest issue I have with spam is Mail.app's junk mail filtering system flagging mail from AI so I just turned that feature off.
  • Reply 40 of 73
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post


    He wants to be reminded of an event two years before it happens for cripes sake and was going on a long annoying tirade against the software maker for not allowing it.



    Fine. I'm a jerk (but he's an idiot).



    At the very least, he fails to understand the concept of "the reminder."



    I think it's a completely valid request. In fact I want to be reminded of things 25 and 50 years from now so I buried time capsules lined internally with Post-It Notes in my back yard. The 25 year time capsule contains just one Post-It that reads: "Don't forget to open the other time capsule in 25 years."
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