I do wish that Apple offered iTunes streaming, at least from your own content that you've uploaded to them when iCloud finally launches. If you have multiple devices, why waste precious space on each one, filling it up with a whole bunch of songs?
Why stream when you can download/delete on-demand? Isn't it the same amount of data being consumed? Plus, you can listen to it multiple times and only download once.
In iOS 5, I believe you can delete music right on the iPhone.
Honestly folk this streaming audio over the internet is just re-inventing the radio or satelite radio on whether you get it free or pay.
Pandora is having problems since they only offer 1 minute of ads per hour of listening and ad companies are not paying them much for ad placement because of this.
This world has turned in to pay fees for everything and people are more than happy to shell out money on this stuff.
So add up how many you pay for TV, Phone, Cell Phone, Internet radio, XM Radio, Internet service for both you home and mobile. Just because you can not live without what music for a little while.
"In Europe, Spotify has 10 million active users and 10 million subscribers who pay the subscription fee of 10 Euros per month. The company's new U.S. headquarters is expected to be in New York."
Eh? More like one million subscribers, not 10 million. Guys, do better research or some proper editing.
10 million subscribers paying ?10 a month = ?100,000,000 a month = ?1,200,000,000. My head is spinning...
Not a good week for Apple in general with news coming that Android stretches lead over Apple, Facebook links with Skype to compete with FaceTime, and now word that Spotify will be offering services comparable and arguably better than iTunes. Apple will more than likely rebound, but this may be a small step towards the future.
Oh I'm sure Apple are quaking in their boots.
Android stretches lead - in a 'survey' Lolcats have to add up all the android handsets to beat a single Apple handset.
Skype 'coming' to Facebook, big whoop.
Spotify 'coming' at some undetermined time in the future (oh, and it is fuck all like iTunes, 10 quid a month for a year, 120 quid. You stop subscribing and you have a music library of zilch)
While these things are all 'coming' Apple are swimming in their liquid 70 billion dollars.
As per usual the competition will catch up to where Apple were a year ago they really have to try harder.
$15 a month for Spotify... or $36 a year for Pandora... I'll have to see what else Spotify brings along.
For one thing, 13 million tracks, vs. 800k for Pandora. Assuming Spotify can launch with the same sort of catalogue they have in Europe.
Also worth noting is that the regular Spotify fee, which gets you what Pandora offers, is only €5/month. The €10 premium service gets you offline access and 384kbps bitrate.
Given that Spotify is a cloud-based peer-to-peer music streaming service that allows listening to any/all available music (not just your individual library) and iTunes is none of those things, it's hardly trying to 'take on iTunes'... It's offering exponentially more.
Many have tried and failed to dethrone iTunes. You're desperate clinging to yet another contender is typical of Apple haters. Anything as long as it's not Apple.
Uh...I live in Europe where Spotify is already available and straight up: it is not an iTunes competitor. It's very, very different. And how compelling it is is debatable at best.
What? I literally havent bought a single song on iTunes in the last couple of years, since Spotify came along. Go to the office, everyone is using spotify on their headphones. Go to parties, the sound system is hooked up to Spotify. Its a BETTER music player app than iTunes, (on the desktop, the iOS app maybe not so much, but its improving). It is a huge competitor to iTunes in Europe.
People are only seeing the 15 bucks a month but you also need to consider the data.
That's always something to consider with any data-intense app. I guess it depends on how much data you have left on your plan. If you have a 2GB/mo plan and don't do much else, the basic bit rate will get you 27 hours of Spotify a month over cellular data. Then that can be extended over whatever WiFi connections you can use in between.
I do wish that Apple offered iTunes streaming, at least from your own content that you've uploaded to them when iCloud finally launches. If you have multiple devices, why waste precious space on each one, filling it up with a whole bunch of songs?
How is what you are asking for any different than Apple's soon to be released iTunes Match? Except that iTunes Match is better in that with iTunes Match you will get 256 bit quality regardless of having a lesser quality personal copy.
Serializer you really ought to take a chill pill. It's not Spotify that has squared up to Apple they're just doing their thing and offering what they're offering. The fact that they are operating in a domain that might or might not impact on Apple is no reason to hate them. In a free country you should always be prepared to "Think Different(ly)".
"I'm the biggest Apple fan with almost a full set of Apple devices and part of my use of my Mac is to use Spotify - the free version with an ad maybe every five tracks - it's a great way to compile play lists and listen while I'm online. I would have to subscribe to get the iOS app. working on my iPod Touch and so far I've not been tempted, because my iTunes library is enough for most occasions when I'm offline. My sons, both occasional DJs interested in different genres of music, have signed up and think it's worth the £10:00 to access the service on mobile devices and have tracks playable offline.
Give it a go - it's not like you're joining the Dark Side!
How is what you are asking for any different than Apple's soon to be released iTunes Match? Except that iTunes Match is better in that with iTunes Match you will get 256 bit quality regardless of having a lesser quality personal copy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that iTunes Match is streaming.
To be honest, I don't want every song to be pushed to everything that I own. For some people, the way that iCloud handles music might be right for them, but I'm looking for something slightly different.
I saw that Amazon just introduced unlimited storage of music for $20 a year and that service is streaming and it works on iPad too. If I'm going to use a device to listen to music with, I don't want music taking up any space at all on that device. The download and delete method seems like a hassle.
Until you leave your cellular coverage area, or want to listen to the same song more than once and have to re-stream it each time.
I haven't tried the Amazon streaming service yet, but I did look at it quick, and since I already have 5 Gb for free, maybe I'll test it out later on.
But even if somebody wanted to listen to the same song 10 times in a row, then why would that be problematic if it's streaming? You just hit play and the song starts playing, isn't that the way it works? What difference does it make if somebody streams the same thing 10 times?
Data costs and data plans are of no concern to me, as I'll be using this through Wifi.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that iTunes Match is streaming.
To be honest, I don't want every song to be pushed to everything that I own. For some people, the way that iCloud handles music might be right for them, but I'm looking for something slightly different.
I saw that Amazon just introduced unlimited storage of music for $20 a year and that service is streaming and it works on iPad too. If I'm going to use a device to listen to music with, I don't want music taking up any space at all on that device. The download and delete method seems like a hassle.
You certainly could be right. But I understood that iTunes Match would allow you to stream (this is the part I am unclear about) any music that you either upload or that matches your music library. Admittedly, their iCloud page (http://www.apple.com/icloud/features) is a bit vague on that point. What Apple does state is:
"Any music with a match is automatically added to your iCloud library for you to listen to anytime, on any device."
If it does stream, I will certainly be an iTunes Match subscriber for $25/year. I'll just have to wait and see.
You certainly could be right. But I understood that iTunes Match would allow you to stream (this is the part I am unclear about) any music that you either upload or that matches your music library. Admittedly, their iCloud page (http://www.apple.com/icloud/features) is a bit vague on that point. What Apple does state is:
"Any music with a match is automatically added to your iCloud library for you to listen to anytime, on any device."
If it does stream, I will certainly be an iTunes Match subscriber for $25/year. I'll just have to wait and see.
Downloading was mentioned and demonstrated at the WWDC keynote, but streaming was not. Web stories also seem to confirm that it is not a streaming service, at least yet.
Serializer you really ought to take a chill pill. It's not Spotify that has squared up to Apple they're just doing their thing and offering what they're offering. The fact that they are operating in a domain that might or might not impact on Apple is no reason to hate them. In a free country you should always be prepared to "Think Different(ly)".
"I'm the biggest Apple fan with almost a full set of Apple devices and part of my use of my Mac is to use Spotify - the free version with an ad maybe every five tracks - it's a great way to compile play lists and listen while I'm online. I would have to subscribe to get the iOS app. working on my iPod Touch and so far I've not been tempted, because my iTunes library is enough for most occasions when I'm offline. My sons, both occasional DJs interested in different genres of music, have signed up and think it's worth the £10:00 to access the service on mobile devices and have tracks playable offline.
Give it a go - it's not like you're joining the Dark Side!
Perhaps your misunderstood me (I was quoting somebody else in my post). I am using Spotify and I love it. According to me, iTunes was built to buy songs and Spotify was built to play and stream songs.
The fact that I can stream when I am in my car or that my Sonos sound system can stream directly from Spotify is awesome!
I to, am a bit confused. I haven't purchase any music from anyone now for a long time.
With iTunes radio stations, with RadioShift, with damn near every major radio station in the world offering streaming, with the tons of music on youtube (hell you can listen to some 2 hours of Eagles music for free, not to mention 1 or so of Yes music FREE) and the list goes on, why worry about another company coming along to CHARGE for music?
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I do wish that Apple offered iTunes streaming, at least from your own content that you've uploaded to them when iCloud finally launches. If you have multiple devices, why waste precious space on each one, filling it up with a whole bunch of songs?
Why stream when you can download/delete on-demand? Isn't it the same amount of data being consumed? Plus, you can listen to it multiple times and only download once.
In iOS 5, I believe you can delete music right on the iPhone.
Pandora is having problems since they only offer 1 minute of ads per hour of listening and ad companies are not paying them much for ad placement because of this.
This world has turned in to pay fees for everything and people are more than happy to shell out money on this stuff.
So add up how many you pay for TV, Phone, Cell Phone, Internet radio, XM Radio, Internet service for both you home and mobile. Just because you can not live without what music for a little while.
"In Europe, Spotify has 10 million active users and 10 million subscribers who pay the subscription fee of 10 Euros per month. The company's new U.S. headquarters is expected to be in New York."
Eh? More like one million subscribers, not 10 million. Guys, do better research or some proper editing.
10 million subscribers paying ?10 a month = ?100,000,000 a month = ?1,200,000,000. My head is spinning...
Not a good week for Apple in general with news coming that Android stretches lead over Apple, Facebook links with Skype to compete with FaceTime, and now word that Spotify will be offering services comparable and arguably better than iTunes. Apple will more than likely rebound, but this may be a small step towards the future.
Oh I'm sure Apple are quaking in their boots.
Android stretches lead - in a 'survey' Lolcats have to add up all the android handsets to beat a single Apple handset.
Skype 'coming' to Facebook, big whoop.
Spotify 'coming' at some undetermined time in the future (oh, and it is fuck all like iTunes, 10 quid a month for a year, 120 quid. You stop subscribing and you have a music library of zilch)
While these things are all 'coming' Apple are swimming in their liquid 70 billion dollars.
As per usual the competition will catch up to where Apple were a year ago they really have to try harder.
$15 a month for Spotify... or $36 a year for Pandora... I'll have to see what else Spotify brings along.
For one thing, 13 million tracks, vs. 800k for Pandora. Assuming Spotify can launch with the same sort of catalogue they have in Europe.
Also worth noting is that the regular Spotify fee, which gets you what Pandora offers, is only €5/month. The €10 premium service gets you offline access and 384kbps bitrate.
Hmm?
Given that Spotify is a cloud-based peer-to-peer music streaming service that allows listening to any/all available music (not just your individual library) and iTunes is none of those things, it's hardly trying to 'take on iTunes'... It's offering exponentially more.
Many have tried and failed to dethrone iTunes. You're desperate clinging to yet another contender is typical of Apple haters. Anything as long as it's not Apple.
Uh...I live in Europe where Spotify is already available and straight up: it is not an iTunes competitor. It's very, very different. And how compelling it is is debatable at best.
What? I literally havent bought a single song on iTunes in the last couple of years, since Spotify came along. Go to the office, everyone is using spotify on their headphones. Go to parties, the sound system is hooked up to Spotify. Its a BETTER music player app than iTunes, (on the desktop, the iOS app maybe not so much, but its improving). It is a huge competitor to iTunes in Europe.
People are only seeing the 15 bucks a month but you also need to consider the data.
That's always something to consider with any data-intense app. I guess it depends on how much data you have left on your plan. If you have a 2GB/mo plan and don't do much else, the basic bit rate will get you 27 hours of Spotify a month over cellular data. Then that can be extended over whatever WiFi connections you can use in between.
I do wish that Apple offered iTunes streaming, at least from your own content that you've uploaded to them when iCloud finally launches. If you have multiple devices, why waste precious space on each one, filling it up with a whole bunch of songs?
How is what you are asking for any different than Apple's soon to be released iTunes Match? Except that iTunes Match is better in that with iTunes Match you will get 256 bit quality regardless of having a lesser quality personal copy.
"I'm the biggest Apple fan with almost a full set of Apple devices and part of my use of my Mac is to use Spotify - the free version with an ad maybe every five tracks - it's a great way to compile play lists and listen while I'm online. I would have to subscribe to get the iOS app. working on my iPod Touch and so far I've not been tempted, because my iTunes library is enough for most occasions when I'm offline. My sons, both occasional DJs interested in different genres of music, have signed up and think it's worth the £10:00 to access the service on mobile devices and have tracks playable offline.
Give it a go - it's not like you're joining the Dark Side!
How is what you are asking for any different than Apple's soon to be released iTunes Match? Except that iTunes Match is better in that with iTunes Match you will get 256 bit quality regardless of having a lesser quality personal copy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that iTunes Match is streaming.
To be honest, I don't want every song to be pushed to everything that I own. For some people, the way that iCloud handles music might be right for them, but I'm looking for something slightly different.
I saw that Amazon just introduced unlimited storage of music for $20 a year and that service is streaming and it works on iPad too. If I'm going to use a device to listen to music with, I don't want music taking up any space at all on that device. The download and delete method seems like a hassle.
The download and delete method seems like a hassle.
Until you leave your cellular coverage area, or want to listen to the same song more than once and have to re-stream it each time.
Until you leave your cellular coverage area, or want to listen to the same song more than once and have to re-stream it each time.
I haven't tried the Amazon streaming service yet, but I did look at it quick, and since I already have 5 Gb for free, maybe I'll test it out later on.
But even if somebody wanted to listen to the same song 10 times in a row, then why would that be problematic if it's streaming? You just hit play and the song starts playing, isn't that the way it works? What difference does it make if somebody streams the same thing 10 times?
Data costs and data plans are of no concern to me, as I'll be using this through Wifi.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that iTunes Match is streaming.
To be honest, I don't want every song to be pushed to everything that I own. For some people, the way that iCloud handles music might be right for them, but I'm looking for something slightly different.
I saw that Amazon just introduced unlimited storage of music for $20 a year and that service is streaming and it works on iPad too. If I'm going to use a device to listen to music with, I don't want music taking up any space at all on that device. The download and delete method seems like a hassle.
You certainly could be right. But I understood that iTunes Match would allow you to stream (this is the part I am unclear about) any music that you either upload or that matches your music library. Admittedly, their iCloud page (http://www.apple.com/icloud/features) is a bit vague on that point. What Apple does state is:
"Any music with a match is automatically added to your iCloud library for you to listen to anytime, on any device."
If it does stream, I will certainly be an iTunes Match subscriber for $25/year. I'll just have to wait and see.
You certainly could be right. But I understood that iTunes Match would allow you to stream (this is the part I am unclear about) any music that you either upload or that matches your music library. Admittedly, their iCloud page (http://www.apple.com/icloud/features) is a bit vague on that point. What Apple does state is:
"Any music with a match is automatically added to your iCloud library for you to listen to anytime, on any device."
If it does stream, I will certainly be an iTunes Match subscriber for $25/year. I'll just have to wait and see.
Downloading was mentioned and demonstrated at the WWDC keynote, but streaming was not. Web stories also seem to confirm that it is not a streaming service, at least yet.
On the business level there will be some winners and some losers but for we consumers, this is sweet!
Serializer you really ought to take a chill pill. It's not Spotify that has squared up to Apple they're just doing their thing and offering what they're offering. The fact that they are operating in a domain that might or might not impact on Apple is no reason to hate them. In a free country you should always be prepared to "Think Different(ly)".
"I'm the biggest Apple fan with almost a full set of Apple devices and part of my use of my Mac is to use Spotify - the free version with an ad maybe every five tracks - it's a great way to compile play lists and listen while I'm online. I would have to subscribe to get the iOS app. working on my iPod Touch and so far I've not been tempted, because my iTunes library is enough for most occasions when I'm offline. My sons, both occasional DJs interested in different genres of music, have signed up and think it's worth the £10:00 to access the service on mobile devices and have tracks playable offline.
Give it a go - it's not like you're joining the Dark Side!
Perhaps your misunderstood me (I was quoting somebody else in my post). I am using Spotify and I love it. According to me, iTunes was built to buy songs and Spotify was built to play and stream songs.
The fact that I can stream when I am in my car or that my Sonos sound system can stream directly from Spotify is awesome!
With iTunes radio stations, with RadioShift, with damn near every major radio station in the world offering streaming, with the tons of music on youtube (hell you can listen to some 2 hours of Eagles music for free, not to mention 1 or so of Yes music FREE) and the list goes on, why worry about another company coming along to CHARGE for music?
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Spotify ads are voice ads, like station ads.
Mobile app only work with paid subscriptions, without ads and you can download song for oflline access
Opps, it didn't even dawn on me the ads would be audio, my bad.
Thank you for the information.