Is Lion faster than SL, or slower?
I've been reading these months that Lion is faster than 10.6.x.
However, the rumor saying Lion will ship next week, says Apple has told stores to upgrade RAM in their showroom machines.
This makes me think that it will take more to boot, and be "heavier" than 10.6.x.
If it's heavier, I won't upgrade, because 10.6.x is very efficient with the RAM I have. In that case I prefer to hold 10.6.x and wait until I buy another Mac on the future.
Thanks!!
However, the rumor saying Lion will ship next week, says Apple has told stores to upgrade RAM in their showroom machines.
This makes me think that it will take more to boot, and be "heavier" than 10.6.x.
If it's heavier, I won't upgrade, because 10.6.x is very efficient with the RAM I have. In that case I prefer to hold 10.6.x and wait until I buy another Mac on the future.
Thanks!!
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No, seriously, tell us why you really don't want to spend $29 on an OS that will change the fundamental way you work with your computer.
It's fine, by the way. Booting's even faster than Snow Leopard.
The most important feature I wanted from Lion is TRIM support, because I want to get the most from the 256GB SSD in this MBA. However, the latest SL update enabled TRIM for my MBA, so I no longer need Lion for getting this feature.
The rest of new features in Lion would be great, of course, but I want to get every bit of performance for my machine, and if Apple told stores to upgrade their machines RAM, that's not a good symptom performance-wise.
Thats why I asked.
- New MacBook Air models all ship with 4GB RAM
- Existing Mac Mini and MacBook models get 4GB RAM for the same prices as the current 2GB configurations
- Announce that 10.7 Lion either will not be officially supported on Macs with less than 4GB or perhaps even will not install/boot with less than 4GB RAM.
Apple might be able to sell some additional hardware. Bumping 2GB to 4GB at the same prices for the Mac Mini and MacBook would alleviate some of the resentment that would follow such an announcement.
Apple impose a RAM minimum of 1GB for 10.6 Snow Leopard, so 4GB for Lion seems very unlikely.
- Announce that 10.7 Lion either will not be officially supported on Macs with less than 4GB or perhaps even will not install/boot with less than 4GB RAM.
That's nonsense. We'd have seen that in the Developer Previews, and no OS is bloated enough to NEED 4GB.
That's nonsense. We'd have seen that in the Developer Previews, and no OS is bloated enough to NEED 4GB.
It seems to didn't bother to read to the end:
Apple impose a RAM minimum of 1GB for 10.6 Snow Leopard, so 4GB for Lion seems very unlikely.
It seems to didn't bother to read to the end:
No, I just ignored it because if you had taken that at face value, you wouldn't have written what I originally quoted at all.
You obviously believe differently than that sentence states, otherwise you wouldn't have added "4GB RAM limit" as an option.
No, I just ignored it because if you had taken that at face value, you wouldn't have written what I originally quoted at all.
You obviously believe differently than that sentence states, otherwise you wouldn't have added "4GB RAM limit" as an option.
You may have read it, but you clearly didn't understand what you read. I started by posing a question, discussed it, and reached a conclusion. I'm sorry that was beyond your ability to follow.
You may have read it, but you clearly didn't understand what you read. I started by posing a question, discussed it, and reached a conclusion. I'm sorry that was beyond your ability to follow.
Nice try.
So why would you say something you didn't even believe in the first place?
Nice try.
So why would you say something you didn't even believe in the first place?
Your question presumes facts not in evidence. Your question is logically equivalent to: "When did you stop beating your wife?"
Your question presumes facts not in evidence. Your question is logically equivalent to: "When did you stop beating your wife?"
Don't bother responding to a troll :-) He's clearly here to give stupid answers to a perfectly valid question.
'Kay, please explain to me how "Apple could impose a 4GB RAM minimum. Apple won't impose a 4GB RAM minimum" is in any way valid.
i am looking forward to faster safari but will not be happy with other system wide slow downs. any input would be appreciated. thx
On my stock low-end 13" MBP with Core i5, Lion GM is horrendously sluggish. I experience constant bouts of SBBoD when using Safari (with no plug-ins or extensions) and Lightroom 3. Scrolling in Safari feels jerky. Also many animations (Mission Control, Versions etc) are choppy. SL is fine on the same machine, so the issue clearly is not in the hardware.
Then it's a botched installation, because it runs perfectly fine on others' machines of the same model. You did something wrong.
Then it's a botched installation, because it runs perfectly fine on others' machines of the same model. You did something wrong.
Or something went wrong because of some bug and it is not stratokaster's fault.
Or, most likely there is just system cruft. stratokaster did you do an Upgrade? I'd recommend a fresh install, and moving folders of settings, data and apps over manually. It's what I always do. I wish Upgrade would just work but I don't trust it for precisely this reason.
What I want to know is...does 10.7 support TRIM for non-Apple SSD drives. If not that is weak-sauce. Good thing there is a hack for it but that's lame to need a hack for it, because I thought TRIM was a standard or something. It seems arbitrary. Then again I may be missing something as I don't really understand the technical details of it. I just know I want to get an SSD sometime this year or next year when they get a tad cheaper.
Then it's a botched installation, because it runs perfectly fine on others' machines of the same model. You did something wrong.
I concur. I have been running Lion Server on the same model & it runs fine. Clean install Lion on yours.
Or, most likely there is just system cruft. stratokaster did you do an Upgrade? I'd recommend a fresh install, and moving folders of settings, data and apps over manually. It's what I always do. I wish Upgrade would just work but I don't trust it for precisely this reason.
Ironically, I upgraded all the way from 10.2 to 10.6 and experienced problems only once - going from Leo to Snow Leo. Thankfully, when I did fresh install and then transferred my data using Migration Assistant, everything was ok.
When I bought this machine 3 months ago, I decided to start from scratch and manually copied only really needed data. I doubt I could accumulate that much cruft in just 3 months.
What I want to know is...does 10.7 support TRIM for non-Apple SSD drives.
It does not. But many SSDs nowadays implement their own garbage collection routines and are fine without TRIM.