Not gold digging? They were not harmed in any way, nor was their location tracked per se. Rather, the system kept the location of cell towers that the person was within a few miles of. AND, unless they gave their phone to someone who knew how to access the information, none of the information was ever released to anyone.
And, by simply updating to 4.3.3 (at no charge), the problem goes away for the future.
Gold diggers, indeed.
I think he meant the other millions of Korean iPhone users who didn't participate.
People seem to confuse Apple with Google a lot. Google makes their money mining and selling personal information. Apple makes there money creating products.
Anyone think Samsung discovered they had 27,000 employees using iPhones and gave them an ultimatum? Hard to accept this as some sort of coincidence.
A couple thousand people illegally asking for money rather than a couple million. Yep.
Things always sound more reasonable when we used words dishonestly.
"a couple" != 27
Maybe "a couple dozen". Or how about "tens of". Considering that no class action suit ever garners the full cohort of every single individual conceivably insolvable, though, this isn't the relief people seem to want to make it out to be. And no, I don't think it reflects well on South Korea, just because it's not everybody.
Things always sound more reasonable when we used words dishonestly.
"a couple" != 27
Maybe "a couple dozen". Or how about "tens of". Considering that no class action suit ever garners the full cohort of every single individual conceivably insolvable, though, this isn't the relief people seem to want to make it out to be. And no, I don't think it reflects well on South Korea, just because it's not everybody.
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People seem to confuse Apple with Google a lot. Google makes their money mining and selling personal information. Apple makes there money creating products.
Anyone think Samsung discovered they had 27,000 employees using iPhones and gave them an ultimatum? Hard to accept this as some sort of coincidence.
So based on your logic and that of others, every time some Americans do dumb-a$$ things, it should reflect on all of the entire country?! Doesn't seems fair does it?
When will people learn not to nationalize the actions of the few? We have all kinds of people in every country
Things always sound more reasonable when we used words dishonestly.
"Software that tracks our movements". "Privacy violations".
Yeah, things do sound more reasonable when they're dishonest.
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"a couple" != 27
And privacy ≠ South Korea, as has been previously expounded in this thread. Apple did LESS with their location database (less: a word which here means 'nothing') than the South Korean government does to citizens' privacy to allow people to use the Internet at all.
27 thousand people are not going to get paid this 900 bucks. The initial payment was one of symbolism but now the Korean attorney is getting greedy and if Korean Law is anything like US law
it's going to be bar harder to get a Judge to rule against Apple to the tune of 26 million.
At that level Apple is contacting people way above this Lawyers pay grade and dealing with it on top.
Apple's already shopping LCD business and other stuff to other companies..the latest being Sharp entering the fray.
Remember...Jobs had no problem telling the Cupertino city council that Apple would think about moving their headquarters to Mountainview if they didn't to carry out their plans for revamping the Apple Campus. They'd have no problem telling South Korea to take a hike.
So based on your logic and that of others, every time some Americans do dumb-a$$ things, it should reflect on all of the entire country?! Doesn't seems fair does it?
When will people learn not to nationalize the actions of the few? We have all kinds of people in every country
Surley for anyone to win in this case against Apple they would have to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that Apple was collecting the tracking data and not that it was just stored on the handset?
Too many people are pissed off about the Samsung lawsuit!
That's really all this is. In Korea, there is no one oblivious to the fact that Apple has taken their corporate baby to court. Even if Samsung was proved to be a blatant copy artist in court, most Koreans would never see it that way, simply because they support their own flesh and blood first. Apple is the foreign invader in their eyes. So it should come as no surprised that average Koreans are taking Apple to court on their own. Nor would I be surprised if Samsung wasn't encouraging it in some way, either directly or indirectly.
Some contend that none of this casts Apple in a good light. But I cannot help but feel that it makes the Koreans look bad as well (of course, only to those who aren't Korean).
That's really all this is. In Korea, there is no one oblivious to the fact that Apple has taken their corporate baby to court. Even if Samsung was proved to be a blatant copy artist in court, most Koreans would never see it that way, simply because they support their own flesh and blood first. Apple is the foreign invader in their eyes. So it should come as no surprised that average Koreans are taking Apple to court on their own. Nor would I be surprised if Samsung wasn't encouraging it in some way, either directly or indirectly.
Some contend that none of this casts Apple in a good light. But I cannot help but feel that it makes the Koreans look bad as well (of course, only to those who aren't Korean).
Supporting your own home grown company. Whats wrong with that?
I would'nt be surprised if Apple gets a favorable judgement in the US because its a home grown company.
Seriously, what is new there? You think only South Koreans are favorable to their home grown company?
You live in Japan so I'm sure you've seen many favoratism for local companies such as Sony, Toshiba, Sharp etc.. from the Japanese.
Whats new here?
Your entire statement is the equivalent of saying "The sky is blue".
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Not gold digging? They were not harmed in any way, nor was their location tracked per se. Rather, the system kept the location of cell towers that the person was within a few miles of. AND, unless they gave their phone to someone who knew how to access the information, none of the information was ever released to anyone.
And, by simply updating to 4.3.3 (at no charge), the problem goes away for the future.
Gold diggers, indeed.
I think he meant the other millions of Korean iPhone users who didn't participate.
Anyone think Samsung discovered they had 27,000 employees using iPhones and gave them an ultimatum? Hard to accept this as some sort of coincidence.
A couple thousand people illegally asking for money rather than a couple million. Yep.
Things always sound more reasonable when we used words dishonestly.
"a couple" != 27
Maybe "a couple dozen". Or how about "tens of". Considering that no class action suit ever garners the full cohort of every single individual conceivably insolvable, though, this isn't the relief people seem to want to make it out to be. And no, I don't think it reflects well on South Korea, just because it's not everybody.
Things always sound more reasonable when we used words dishonestly.
"a couple" != 27
Maybe "a couple dozen". Or how about "tens of". Considering that no class action suit ever garners the full cohort of every single individual conceivably insolvable, though, this isn't the relief people seem to want to make it out to be. And no, I don't think it reflects well on South Korea, just because it's not everybody.
People seem to confuse Apple with Google a lot. Google makes their money mining and selling personal information. Apple makes there money creating products.
Anyone think Samsung discovered they had 27,000 employees using iPhones and gave them an ultimatum? Hard to accept this as some sort of coincidence.
So based on your logic and that of others, every time some Americans do dumb-a$$ things, it should reflect on all of the entire country?! Doesn't seems fair does it?
When will people learn not to nationalize the actions of the few? We have all kinds of people in every country
Things always sound more reasonable when we used words dishonestly.
"Software that tracks our movements". "Privacy violations".
Yeah, things do sound more reasonable when they're dishonest.
"a couple" != 27
And privacy ≠ South Korea, as has been previously expounded in this thread. Apple did LESS with their location database (less: a word which here means 'nothing') than the South Korean government does to citizens' privacy to allow people to use the Internet at all.
They weren't tracking anyone to BEGIN WITH. This is people whining about crap to get money. There are absolutely no damages.
Hurry up. I'm counting on an Apple settlement before Christmas so I can have a little extra cash.
it's going to be bar harder to get a Judge to rule against Apple to the tune of 26 million.
At that level Apple is contacting people way above this Lawyers pay grade and dealing with it on top.
Apple's already shopping LCD business and other stuff to other companies..the latest being Sharp entering the fray.
Remember...Jobs had no problem telling the Cupertino city council that Apple would think about moving their headquarters to Mountainview if they didn't to carry out their plans for revamping the Apple Campus. They'd have no problem telling South Korea to take a hike.
Oh wait...
So based on your logic and that of others, every time some Americans do dumb-a$$ things, it should reflect on all of the entire country?! Doesn't seems fair does it?
When will people learn not to nationalize the actions of the few? We have all kinds of people in every country
Well said!
S Korea has 50 times the number of lawsuits as Japan. Per capita, 130 times more.
Per capita, S Korea has 850 times more cases of perjury and 1,100 times more cases of false accusation than Japan.
These responses are just the type that I expect of iFans. Whining.
What you people fail to see is the big picture behind the biased article that is written here.
Heck, there isnt even a source for this "article".
I never knew Appleinsider had that many journalists around the world reporting first hand information.
Apple should be thankful to the courts for slapping them with a minor fine instead of a heavy one.
Had it not been for the low fine, this class action lawsuit would've been a lot more expensive for Apple.
Too many people are pissed off about the Samsung lawsuit!
That's really all this is. In Korea, there is no one oblivious to the fact that Apple has taken their corporate baby to court. Even if Samsung was proved to be a blatant copy artist in court, most Koreans would never see it that way, simply because they support their own flesh and blood first. Apple is the foreign invader in their eyes. So it should come as no surprised that average Koreans are taking Apple to court on their own. Nor would I be surprised if Samsung wasn't encouraging it in some way, either directly or indirectly.
Some contend that none of this casts Apple in a good light. But I cannot help but feel that it makes the Koreans look bad as well (of course, only to those who aren't Korean).
Fun facts:
S Korea has 50 times the number of lawsuits as Japan. Per capita, 130 times more.
Per capita, S Korea has 850 times more cases of perjury and 1,100 times more cases of false accusation than Japan.
you must be japanese...
That's really all this is. In Korea, there is no one oblivious to the fact that Apple has taken their corporate baby to court. Even if Samsung was proved to be a blatant copy artist in court, most Koreans would never see it that way, simply because they support their own flesh and blood first. Apple is the foreign invader in their eyes. So it should come as no surprised that average Koreans are taking Apple to court on their own. Nor would I be surprised if Samsung wasn't encouraging it in some way, either directly or indirectly.
Some contend that none of this casts Apple in a good light. But I cannot help but feel that it makes the Koreans look bad as well (of course, only to those who aren't Korean).
Supporting your own home grown company. Whats wrong with that?
I would'nt be surprised if Apple gets a favorable judgement in the US because its a home grown company.
Seriously, what is new there? You think only South Koreans are favorable to their home grown company?
You live in Japan so I'm sure you've seen many favoratism for local companies such as Sony, Toshiba, Sharp etc.. from the Japanese.
Whats new here?
Your entire statement is the equivalent of saying "The sky is blue".
Oh, really?
What about Samsung Galaxy S? Is it safer than iPhone?
Absolutely. No viruses or spyware exists for the Samsung Galaxy S. Your personal information is totally secure.