Apple ordered raid on New York store to seize knock-off accessories

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  • Reply 41 of 54
    cu10cu10 Posts: 294member
    Apple's gestapo strikes again!



    Lodsys, you are next (so not)
  • Reply 42 of 54
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    Originally Posted by sternapples53 View Post


    This just goes to show Apples turn to being a bully and a ruthless Corp. The old think different campaign could now be called Think Greed. Sure protecting your patents is all fine and well. Some how this seems over the top. After all Apple sits on 76 BIllion in cash, how much in sales do you think one store like this affects them. I am not saying they should be allowed to sell knock offs after all you can get fake lois Vitton anywhere but asking for the names of their customers was totally uncalled for. Thats just too big brother.





    Aw c'mon people. Apple is a big corporation but it earned every cent of what they are worth. In the USA where corporations really are running the political agenda, Apple ain't one of them. All Apple does is innovate and bring you Christmas in July, and they make great products that work all year long. You can use YOUR imagination without the device getting in the way. Has Apple ever done anything to make their customers angry? No! Except maybe to tear down completely a prior product because they have something much much better to replace it! Of all the corporations to bitch about, Apple isn't one I would pick. if anything, they have set the high bar of what a company could aspire to do. I figured out they would be a big story in 1998, nobody believed me. Oh, and the CEO is paid $1 / yr plus whatever the company gives him by gift! Wow I'd like to see another mega Corp do that! No, Apple is about anything BUT greed. If they were greedy they would have the same 'ain't broke don't fix it' and 'make a sequel' attitude that so many others have. Nope, Apple is organized completely different. Not afraid to tear down a working product to give us something we can't even imagine yet. Two years ago this forum was full of people wondering what good a 'large iPhone aka tablet' would be. Now they are becoming indispensable. I think I will continue to admire Apple for a while.
  • Reply 43 of 54
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member
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    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    I can't wait to hear all the complaints from the Apple haters. Maybe I should save them the trouble:



    - Apple must be scared of competition

    - These people are good for Apple since they're creating more recognition

    - How dare Apple be such a big bully?

    - How could they get a patent on a case?

    - Next thing you know, they'll raid a grocery store to take all the apples.

    - Go ahead, add your own......



    You forgot the laissez faire, hands-off government, deregulation, let companies do what they want, the market will take care of itself, groups.
  • Reply 44 of 54
    charlitunacharlituna Posts: 7,217member
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    Originally Posted by rivertrip View Post


    The misunderstanding is because the author (Josh Ong) is more interested in generating clicks than accurate reporting.



    True that.



    The headline is semi accurate because Apple did request the seizure and thus did 'order' it.



    However a judge had to approve it and yes actual law enforcement were there to serve the warrant which allowed Apple hired private staff to do the actual removal
  • Reply 45 of 54
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Recently unsealed court documents in Apple's case against an "Apple Story" store in New York City reveal that the iPhone maker executed a warrant to seize counterfeit products being sold at the store.



    Apple filed suit against Apple Story Inc. and related company Fun Zone Inc. late last month, but kept court documents sealed until a judge released them to the public on Thursday.



    Reuters reports that Apple had wielded U.S. trademark counterfeiting law to keep the infringement lawsuit under wraps until seizure orders had been executed. [...]



    Whatever happened to public justice, open courts, and public trial proceedings?
  • Reply 46 of 54
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Parttimer View Post


    Whatever happened to public justice, open courts, and public trial proceedings?



    Nothing happened. They don't apply here at all.
  • Reply 47 of 54
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    Originally Posted by Realistic View Post


    APPLE would be crazy to exchange real product for fake. Apple should try to inform these people that they bought fake product and that they should return them to the store they were bought from.



    You don't know much about retail do you?

    Giving them real products in exchange for the fake ones would be the best thing they could do.



    Kind of an ironic comment from you considering your ugly blue sig that calls people out for being "stupid."



    Maybe you should get down off that high horse and think of a new sig, eh? Or at least follow the normal etiquette and take the garish colours out.
  • Reply 48 of 54
    zinfellazinfella Posts: 877member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hiro View Post


    Some of the writers are a bit better than others, but none of them are journalists.





    Neither are some who call themselves "journalists" nowadays.



    However, your point is well taken. What is truly amazing is the number of people that read articles like this on the web, then panic, even to the point of declaring that "it's time for them to leave the country". These are the folks who say "Whelp, I read it on the internet, so it's gotta be true!". OTOH, they also might be customers of the Apple Story!
  • Reply 49 of 54
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    Originally Posted by frdmfghtr View Post


    It's not that Apple is exercising their legal rights; it's that, per the article, APPLE is executing the raid, not law enforcement officials:



    ""On July 27, Apple executed several ex parte seizure warrants -- allowing the company to seize the items -- that swept up goods from both stores that bore the Apple logo," the report wrote. U.S. District Judge Kiyo Matsumoto has also granted a request for a preliminary injunction against sales of the knock-off goods at the two stores."



    You read about the BSA conducting software license audits, now Apple conducting raids. Since when did corporations get the power to enforce laws?





    They are not enforcing the laws on their own out of the blue. They are executing seizures based on court granted warrants. If you have ever had to collect on a civil judgement you know that even when a civilian (or corporation) acts it is under the authority of the law. Remember that couple that showed up at the Bank of America branch with a moving truck to seize their business assets for an unpaid judgement? Sure, there was a sheriff's deputy there but he wasn't calling the shots. The court granted the couple the authority to seize assets to satisfy the judgement. In this case Apple is seizing good (counterfeit) that carry their trademark that the store was not legally licensed to sell or even possess. Nothing askew of the law going on here.
  • Reply 50 of 54
    Apple probably wants the customer list so they can determine volume of sales so they can assess the amount of damages to sue for.
  • Reply 51 of 54
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
    APPLE IS Doomed
  • Reply 52 of 54
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post


    You don't know much about retail do you?

    Giving them real products in exchange for the fake ones would be the best thing they could do.



    Kind of an ironic comment from you considering your ugly blue sig that calls people out for being "stupid."



    OK, why don't you explain the rationale (including facts to support the argument) why Apple replacing all the counterfeits with genuine Apple products would be the BEST thing they could do?



    In reality, it would be a horrible move - for lots of reasons:

    1. It sets a precedent - and encourages people to buy more fakes. Some people would intentionally buy fakes and then try to get them replaced - so they could get genuine Apple products at the junk price.



    2. It creates in peoples' minds the concept that the fakes are truly a legitimate product and Apple considers them to be such.



    3. Of course, it would cost Apple many millions of dollars that could better be invested in R&D.



    There are more, but that's a start.



    Besides, it would get REALLY expensive when they start replacing Samsung phones with iPhones.
  • Reply 53 of 54
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Parttimer

    Whatever happened to public justice, open courts, and public trial proceedings?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Nothing happened. They don't apply here at all.



    Ah, so American corporate law is in fact Nazi law, complete with secret proceedings, secret injunctions, and razzias.
  • Reply 54 of 54
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    Originally Posted by The Third Man View Post


    Ah, so American corporate law is in fact Nazi law, complete with secret proceedings, secret injunctions, and razzias.



    Bingo!
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