It's the only one that makes immediate sense, as well as the most familiar form factor for other media such as books, magazines, paper, etc.
Yes. Magazines are all rectangles, and still each one has a distinct design. Another good example is the iPhone. It's clear that iPhone 4 has a different design than iPhone 3G and 3GS. Yet somehow, no other company seems to be able to come up with something that doesn't look like an iPad.
FWIW, every tablet design I've ever seen, including those going back to 1968, have had the same general rectangular shape. It's the only one that makes immediate sense, as well as the most familiar form factor for other media such as books, magazines, paper, etc.
Why would anyone expect a tablet to have any other shape? Would something round or triangular even be generally acceptable as a form factor for a media device by the average person? Very doubtful.
A tablet by its very name describes a rectangular shape however and a simple form can have a great variety of distinctive design details. Samsung's tablet is a copy without any effort to differentiate it from the iPad. Apple is protecting its interest and design prowess and does not want consumer confusion for this product line. Look at the old beige box PC as manufacturers to a common form but made them clearly different from their competitors. This is not the case of these Asia brands that see no problem with a complete knock off.
Yeah I was actually expecting a triangular-shaped tablet, how dare they design it like that?! Did they not realise Apple holds the patent to rounded rectangles already? Disregard the vastly different hardware and OS inside, bring on the lawsuits!
Not enough adulation over in the Android blogs about the next "Android Messiah" device that will steal market from the iPad? Nothing like a quick drive-by over at AI to get the blood flowing in the morning eh?
It would have been a funny sarcastic comment but you forgot the funny when you ladeled on the sarcasm. And then, THEN you had to make a silly comment like
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Disregard the vastly different hardware and OS inside
If only. When is the Android team going to STOP diddling around and nail down the tablet format and operational factors that decisively put an Android tablet out in front of the iPad (beyond chanting incessantly about features that the majority of the consumer market don't really care about) and clearly leading the vision for what tablet computing could be?
It won't. because all Andy Rubin can do is peer over the shoulder of Apple and try to get the next iterative update for Android out before Apple announces the next upgrade to iOS. You can call out feature sets all you want but it is the cohesive whole that is selling iPads to consumers - the combination of interface, ease of use, robust marketplace and attention to detail. Only at such time as Rubin and his team can sit down and develop a coherent forward vision of what the tablet experience should be for the average person will Android have a chance at an enduring framework. And they won't because their focus is solely on the OS, they are OS engineers and not a cross-functional team of designers engineers, and OS/software/interface specialists.
This is the major fail of Android. And MOto adds nothing to the mix - in fact they are a counter-cultural enigma to the Google culture and will be slowly dissolved until there is nothing of value left - just like Google has done with most of their non-core acquisitions. The rest is silence - All HTC knows is form-factor, Apple benchmarked that and anything else is seen as a me-too device, because there is no other form factor that makes sense.
Notice how quickly the whole dual screen/folding concept prototypes disappeared when the iPad came out. The Microsoft Courier design - dead. The Kno? - history. The Toshiba Libretto? - discontinued. How about the Sony S1 or 2? - vaporware. Everyone recognizes what Apple spent a couple of years testing and confirming - the slab makes sense to the average consumer. Which is why they don't try to differentiate too widely from Apple's demonstrably successful form factor. I'm not saying it can't be done but what hardware company out there has the combination of talents and expertise to take over leading consumer electronics from Apple? Not Google. Apparently not HTC or Samsung. Certainly not Moto.
I would write more words, but I'm afraid Apple might sue me saying they have a patent on the alphabet.
to add some snarkiness as well??
Hey, I hear they're offering free ice cream sandwiches over at the Android blogs - if you hurry you could still get in line and get some freebies!! Instead of wasting your time here.
My favourite part of the design is the sexy AT&T logo.
It's so funny (and kind of embarrassing for the other companies), how only Apple seems to have enough pull to refuse to put their partners logos all over their devices.
FWIW, every tablet design I've ever seen, including those going back to 1968, have had the same general rectangular shape. It's the only one that makes immediate sense, as well as the most familiar form factor for other media such as books, magazines, paper, etc.
Why would anyone expect a tablet to have any other shape? Would something round or triangular even be generally acceptable as a form factor for a media device by the average person? Very doubtful.
You keep posting these sorts of things, but I don't think you really understand what you are talking about.
It's not about a rectangular shape. Every book and comic and movie and computer screen has a rectangular shape. it's about "Trade Dress" and specific inventions related to the UI or the hardware.
Probably the best way to understand it is to look at a positive example. Palm's (now HP's and soon to be Microsoft's or Samsung's), phones are similar to all other smartphones, but they have their own design style at the same time that cannot be confused with an iPhone or an Android phone.
It's about working out a design style or trade dress for your own products instead of just blindly copying the competition. It's a subtle thing based on a knowledge of Art and Design which is probably why you don't seem to get it.
It's so funny (and kind of embarrassing for the other companies), how only Apple seems to have enough pull to refuse to put their partners logos all over their devices.
Yep, even after the switch, we never heard ... 'ding dong ... Intel Inside' once TG!
It's so funny (and kind of embarrassing for the other companies), how only Apple seems to have enough pull to refuse to put their partners logos all over their devices.
That's what happens when you have a device that is SO GOOD that telecoms will even stop colluding with one another to get it.
*presentation's about a quarter of the way through*
"We want our logo on the front."
"Okay, so that wraps up our presentation for the device we'll be giving to your competitors only. Any questions?"
You keep posting these sorts of things, but I don't think you really understand what you are talking about.
It's not about a rectangular shape. Every book and comic and movie and computer screen has a rectangular shape. it's about "Trade Dress" and specific inventions related to the UI or the hardware.
That's not the initial claim they made in Germany, having nothing at all to do with trade dress claims they've made elsewhere. It was simply based on Apple claiming ownership of the form-factor. That's it.
And if I read it correctly they're making the same claim about ownership of the form-factor in the the Dutch court, tho if so they didn't agree with the claim.
So yes, I know what's been written about the trade dress claims, a separate issue. In the German court case that doesn't apply.
We all new it would be a copy, didn't we? You people that always say, "well what else should it look like" are missing the point. All tablets before iPad looked like laptops. End.
Hi all, newly registered, but a long time reader. Apple makes great products. Its difficult to say otherwise, whether you like them or not. But to the people that think that Apple created the heavens and the earth, please just stop, you don't know what you're talking about. I'm writing this from my iPad2 and can't help to see the resemblance to:
I would write more words, but I'm afraid Apple might sue me saying they have a patent on the alphabet.
Wow. Why would you even take a chance by posting then? Pretty stupid on your part. You must not be very bright. I suggest not posting to AI ever again just in case.
You [Gatorguy] keep posting these sorts of things, but I don't think you really understand what you are talking about. ...
He knows exactly what he's talking about and knows that his posts here are entirely dishonest and disingenuous. But, after all, that's what he's paid to do.
He knows exactly what he's talking about and knows that his posts here are entirely dishonest and disingenuous. But, after all, that's what he's paid to do.
Ah, my friend Anonymouse! You've been quiet lately.
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So? does AT&T even have any LTE set up? I mean, they don't even have 3G across their entire coverage area.
ATT will start rolling out LTE later this year..........In 5 cities
It's the only one that makes immediate sense, as well as the most familiar form factor for other media such as books, magazines, paper, etc.
Yes. Magazines are all rectangles, and still each one has a distinct design. Another good example is the iPhone. It's clear that iPhone 4 has a different design than iPhone 3G and 3GS. Yet somehow, no other company seems to be able to come up with something that doesn't look like an iPad.
I would write more words, but I'm afraid Apple might sue me saying they have a patent on the alphabet.
They all resemble the media consumption Tablet Newspaper profiled in a video here. . .
back in 1994. Yes, even the iPad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEtP...eature=feedlik
FWIW, every tablet design I've ever seen, including those going back to 1968, have had the same general rectangular shape. It's the only one that makes immediate sense, as well as the most familiar form factor for other media such as books, magazines, paper, etc.
http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/story...f-the-tablet/1
Why would anyone expect a tablet to have any other shape? Would something round or triangular even be generally acceptable as a form factor for a media device by the average person? Very doubtful.
A tablet by its very name describes a rectangular shape however and a simple form can have a great variety of distinctive design details. Samsung's tablet is a copy without any effort to differentiate it from the iPad. Apple is protecting its interest and design prowess and does not want consumer confusion for this product line. Look at the old beige box PC as manufacturers to a common form but made them clearly different from their competitors. This is not the case of these Asia brands that see no problem with a complete knock off.
Yeah I was actually expecting a triangular-shaped tablet, how dare they design it like that?! Did they not realise Apple holds the patent to rounded rectangles already? Disregard the vastly different hardware and OS inside, bring on the lawsuits!
Not enough adulation over in the Android blogs about the next "Android Messiah" device that will steal market from the iPad? Nothing like a quick drive-by over at AI to get the blood flowing in the morning eh?
It would have been a funny sarcastic comment but you forgot the funny when you ladeled on the sarcasm. And then, THEN you had to make a silly comment like
Disregard the vastly different hardware and OS inside
If only. When is the Android team going to STOP diddling around and nail down the tablet format and operational factors that decisively put an Android tablet out in front of the iPad (beyond chanting incessantly about features that the majority of the consumer market don't really care about) and clearly leading the vision for what tablet computing could be?
It won't. because all Andy Rubin can do is peer over the shoulder of Apple and try to get the next iterative update for Android out before Apple announces the next upgrade to iOS. You can call out feature sets all you want but it is the cohesive whole that is selling iPads to consumers - the combination of interface, ease of use, robust marketplace and attention to detail. Only at such time as Rubin and his team can sit down and develop a coherent forward vision of what the tablet experience should be for the average person will Android have a chance at an enduring framework. And they won't because their focus is solely on the OS, they are OS engineers and not a cross-functional team of designers engineers, and OS/software/interface specialists.
This is the major fail of Android. And MOto adds nothing to the mix - in fact they are a counter-cultural enigma to the Google culture and will be slowly dissolved until there is nothing of value left - just like Google has done with most of their non-core acquisitions. The rest is silence - All HTC knows is form-factor, Apple benchmarked that and anything else is seen as a me-too device, because there is no other form factor that makes sense.
Notice how quickly the whole dual screen/folding concept prototypes disappeared when the iPad came out. The Microsoft Courier design - dead. The Kno? - history. The Toshiba Libretto? - discontinued. How about the Sony S1 or 2? - vaporware. Everyone recognizes what Apple spent a couple of years testing and confirming - the slab makes sense to the average consumer. Which is why they don't try to differentiate too widely from Apple's demonstrably successful form factor. I'm not saying it can't be done but what hardware company out there has the combination of talents and expertise to take over leading consumer electronics from Apple? Not Google. Apparently not HTC or Samsung. Certainly not Moto.
I would write more words, but I'm afraid Apple might sue me saying they have a patent on the alphabet.
to add some snarkiness as well??
Hey, I hear they're offering free ice cream sandwiches over at the Android blogs - if you hurry you could still get in line and get some freebies!! Instead of wasting your time here.
My favourite part of the design is the sexy AT&T logo.
It's so funny (and kind of embarrassing for the other companies), how only Apple seems to have enough pull to refuse to put their partners logos all over their devices.
They all resemble the media consumption Tablet Newspaper profiled in a video here. . .
back in 1994. Yes, even the iPad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEtP...eature=feedlik
FWIW, every tablet design I've ever seen, including those going back to 1968, have had the same general rectangular shape. It's the only one that makes immediate sense, as well as the most familiar form factor for other media such as books, magazines, paper, etc.
http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/story...f-the-tablet/1
Why would anyone expect a tablet to have any other shape? Would something round or triangular even be generally acceptable as a form factor for a media device by the average person? Very doubtful.
You keep posting these sorts of things, but I don't think you really understand what you are talking about.
It's not about a rectangular shape. Every book and comic and movie and computer screen has a rectangular shape. it's about "Trade Dress" and specific inventions related to the UI or the hardware.
Probably the best way to understand it is to look at a positive example. Palm's (now HP's and soon to be Microsoft's or Samsung's), phones are similar to all other smartphones, but they have their own design style at the same time that cannot be confused with an iPhone or an Android phone.
It's about working out a design style or trade dress for your own products instead of just blindly copying the competition. It's a subtle thing based on a knowledge of Art and Design which is probably why you don't seem to get it.
It's so funny (and kind of embarrassing for the other companies), how only Apple seems to have enough pull to refuse to put their partners logos all over their devices.
Yep, even after the switch, we never heard ... 'ding dong ... Intel Inside' once TG!
It's so funny (and kind of embarrassing for the other companies), how only Apple seems to have enough pull to refuse to put their partners logos all over their devices.
That's what happens when you have a device that is SO GOOD that telecoms will even stop colluding with one another to get it.
*presentation's about a quarter of the way through*
"We want our logo on the front."
"Okay, so that wraps up our presentation for the device we'll be giving to your competitors only. Any questions?"
"But? okay, never mind."
You keep posting these sorts of things, but I don't think you really understand what you are talking about.
It's not about a rectangular shape. Every book and comic and movie and computer screen has a rectangular shape. it's about "Trade Dress" and specific inventions related to the UI or the hardware.
That's not the initial claim they made in Germany, having nothing at all to do with trade dress claims they've made elsewhere. It was simply based on Apple claiming ownership of the form-factor. That's it.
And if I read it correctly they're making the same claim about ownership of the form-factor in the the Dutch court, tho if so they didn't agree with the claim.
So yes, I know what's been written about the trade dress claims, a separate issue. In the German court case that doesn't apply.
We all new it would be a copy, didn't we? You people that always say, "well what else should it look like" are missing the point. All tablets before iPad looked like laptops. End.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/s...-movies-music/
Please just stop making us REAL Apple fans look like whiny, ignorant 5 year olds. Just do some basic research before you decide to speak.
Apple: Simplicity
WebOS: Multi-tasking
Android: Widgets
WP7: Elegant?
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I would write more words, but I'm afraid Apple might sue me saying they have a patent on the alphabet.
Wow. Why would you even take a chance by posting then? Pretty stupid on your part. You must not be very bright. I suggest not posting to AI ever again just in case.
You [Gatorguy] keep posting these sorts of things, but I don't think you really understand what you are talking about. ...
He knows exactly what he's talking about and knows that his posts here are entirely dishonest and disingenuous. But, after all, that's what he's paid to do.
I would write more words, but I'm afraid Apple might sue me saying they have a patent on the alphabet.
It won't make any difference how many words you use .... if you don't have anything "interesting" to say.
He knows exactly what he's talking about and knows that his posts here are entirely dishonest and disingenuous. But, after all, that's what he's paid to do.
Ah, my friend Anonymouse! You've been quiet lately.