A chance to get into Steve's good graces - and his wallet before he dies. And I think it's pretty shi*ty to plaster this all over the media instead of contacting him directly.
I'm glad he didn't raise Steve because there would have been no Apple Computer.
Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.
I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.
Doesn't sound pathetic at all. First, he probably signed legal documents where he agreed not to contact Steve. He is legally not Steve's father and should not suddenly show up on Steve's porch.
But kudos to Steve's biological parents for requesting that Steve got sent to college. Without that promise, Steve would never have dropped out, never have met Woz, there would be no Apple, no Mac, therefore no Windows so we would all be typing on IBM typewriters and sending faxes to each other here in this thread.
Jandali can hold his breath till he turns blue and keels over. SJ is not the sentimental kind... he got over the natural parents a long time ago. Both Jandali or Simpson found it inconvenient to care for Steve. If the older Simpson was prejudiced, so what? They could have move on their own and raised the kid... both were adult and educated and could have earned a living. Usually adoption takes place because of severe stress with the natural parents or other justifiable cause... not the case here. These were not helpless teenagers. Jandali has nothing but sellers remorse. If SJ succeeded it was in spite of his natural parents.
Kind of reminds me of the Biblical story where the brothers of some baby decides to dump the kid in the river. Eventually he becomes a power minister of the Egyptian Pharaoh. The brothers benefit in the end. May be somebody here knows the story better.
he probably wants money if Steve was a bum, the father would never look for him.
Could you be more wrong? There's absolutely no way you read past the title of the thread.
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Like Jobs, Jandali is also a successful executive. Despite turning 80, he still occupies a vice president position in a Reno casino and leads a very active life. He reportedly rises at 5 AM each day, goes to the gym and drives in his Jeep to the Boomtown Casino and hotel where he works six days a week.
Pretty fricking sure he doesn't want money from his son.
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Kind of reminds me of the Biblical story where the brothers of some baby decides to dump the kid in the river. Eventually he becomes a power minister of the Egyptian Pharaoh. The brothers benefit in the end. May be somebody here knows the story better.
Joseph. His parents treated him well, his older brothers sold him to slavers for it.
Joseph becomes a slave for a prominent Egyptian man who treats him well enough. The man's wife, however, accuses Joseph of adultery, and he's thrown in jail for twenty years.
One of his cell mates is released and becomes an advisor to the Pharaoh, whom he tells of Joseph's work. Joseph's work impresses the Pharaoh enough to give him an even more prominent position than that of his former master.
His brothers come to Egypt in a time of hardship for their land and Joseph sees them and imprisons the youngest of the brothers (they don't recognize him). His brothers have changed, however, and obviously are remorseful about what they had done to Joseph, as the eldest offers himself in place of their youngest. Joseph reveals himself to them and he tells them to bring the entire family to live in Egypt with him in wealth.
Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.
I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.
I don't have any compassion for people who abandoned their children.
In most cases, adopting a child out is just the opposite of "abandoning" them. There are many reasons people do it. They could simply leave (that is abandonment) but they care enough about the child to make sure it gets into a good home with avoid family.
In some cases, the people giving a child up for adoption are "abandoning" it because they don't want the child but in many cases, they want the best for the child and for many reasons, they can't give it.
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Steve would not be Steve unless he had the upbringing he did. The hollowness and sense of being abandoned led him to be the ultra-achiever he became.
So his adoptive parents gave him a poor upbringing?
Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.
I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.
Wow, you are so insightful. That 12 year old that became pregnant by the family pedophile should certainly be keeping her baby. She is so ready to take care of a child. Oh wait, and the drug addicted mother who can't take care of herself, let alone a child, should certainly be placed in charge of the little one. And that rape victim, who sees that rapist in their baby's face everyday reminding them of the terrible incident, yeah, she's scum for giving up the child as well.
You are a moron of the highest order and your ignorance stinks to the highest level to belch out some idiotic blanket statement like that.
The world was a very different place in the 1950's. Steve's (adoptive parents) are sure were thrilled when they got the chance to adopt infant Steve. We have no way of knowing if Steve was raised by his biological parents if he would have been the creator of Apple. What influence and interest he may have pursued and we would literally be living in a different world now. I am not a fatalist but it is fascinating to think about decision we make sometime daily that have an impact on our lives and others.
I have become quite the fatalist very recently. There's a quantum mechanical theory about this. Time and space being connected etc. Block time. It's very interesting.
As an adopted adult, I can tell you, parents are the people who raised you, stayed up late with you and waiting for you to come home, cried for and with you, and loved you unconditionally.
Steve's biological parent may want to meet him, and that's all very nice. But that person is not his father. His father is the elder Mr. Jobs.
To be fair, you are you and Jobs is Jobs. If he wants to meet his biological father it's ultimately a personal decision.
The story is tragic at so many different levels, but at the same time, it was a sequence of exogenous events without which -- to say the least -- not one of us would arguably be here in this forum today having this conversation. And a sequence of events without which the world wouldn't have been a better place.
Ah, the beauty of karma.....
And, to those being excessively judgmental here: give it a break. There are variations of this story, if you probe deep enough, in your own life or family or heritage.
Steve Jobs? biological father says he lives in hope that he'll have the opportunity to acquaint with his long-lost son, even if its just for one cup of coffee, but refuses to be the one to reach out to the Apple co-founder.
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He reportedly rises at 5 AM each day, goes to the gym and drives in his Jeep to the Boomtown Casino and hotel where he works six days a week.
No, I'm not adopted. As for having compassion, I don't give it to those who don't deserve it. I don't have any compassion for people who abandoned their children. On the other hand, the children of course deserve compassion, as they had no say in the process. The parents, not so much.
Sorry, you are wrong. What you think of as compassion is not compassion - at all. If you "give compassion" to someone who "deserves it," that is pandering. It is all about you and your status -- and equally less about the person you pretend to care about. It does not even measure up to pity.
Compassion equals selflessness. You cannot try to be compassionate; either you are compassionate or you are not compassionate. Don't continue to delude yourself.
The story is tragic at so many different levels, but at the same time, it was a sequence of exogenous events without which -- to say the least -- not one of us would arguably be here in this forum today having this conversation. And a sequence of events without which the world wouldn't have been a better place.
Your comment supposes that the sequence isn't already mapped through block time.
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I'm glad he didn't raise Steve because there would have been no Apple Computer.
Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.
I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.
Doesn't sound pathetic at all. First, he probably signed legal documents where he agreed not to contact Steve. He is legally not Steve's father and should not suddenly show up on Steve's porch.
But kudos to Steve's biological parents for requesting that Steve got sent to college. Without that promise, Steve would never have dropped out, never have met Woz, there would be no Apple, no Mac, therefore no Windows so we would all be typing on IBM typewriters and sending faxes to each other here in this thread.
Kind of reminds me of the Biblical story where the brothers of some baby decides to dump the kid in the river. Eventually he becomes a power minister of the Egyptian Pharaoh. The brothers benefit in the end. May be somebody here knows the story better.
he probably wants money if Steve was a bum, the father would never look for him.
Could you be more wrong?
Like Jobs, Jandali is also a successful executive. Despite turning 80, he still occupies a vice president position in a Reno casino and leads a very active life. He reportedly rises at 5 AM each day, goes to the gym and drives in his Jeep to the Boomtown Casino and hotel where he works six days a week.
Pretty fricking sure he doesn't want money from his son.
Kind of reminds me of the Biblical story where the brothers of some baby decides to dump the kid in the river. Eventually he becomes a power minister of the Egyptian Pharaoh. The brothers benefit in the end. May be somebody here knows the story better.
Joseph. His parents treated him well, his older brothers sold him to slavers for it.
Joseph becomes a slave for a prominent Egyptian man who treats him well enough. The man's wife, however, accuses Joseph of adultery, and he's thrown in jail for twenty years.
One of his cell mates is released and becomes an advisor to the Pharaoh, whom he tells of Joseph's work. Joseph's work impresses the Pharaoh enough to give him an even more prominent position than that of his former master.
His brothers come to Egypt in a time of hardship for their land and Joseph sees them and imprisons the youngest of the brothers (they don't recognize him). His brothers have changed, however, and obviously are remorseful about what they had done to Joseph, as the eldest offers himself in place of their youngest. Joseph reveals himself to them and he tells them to bring the entire family to live in Egypt with him in wealth.
Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.
I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.
Grow up.
I don't have any compassion for people who abandoned their children.
In most cases, adopting a child out is just the opposite of "abandoning" them. There are many reasons people do it. They could simply leave (that is abandonment) but they care enough about the child to make sure it gets into a good home with avoid family.
In some cases, the people giving a child up for adoption are "abandoning" it because they don't want the child but in many cases, they want the best for the child and for many reasons, they can't give it.
Steve would not be Steve unless he had the upbringing he did. The hollowness and sense of being abandoned led him to be the ultra-achiever he became.
So his adoptive parents gave him a poor upbringing?
When did he find out he was adopted?
The guy can't pick up the phone but he can talk to the media.
I actually think he did exactly the right thing. For some reason it seems perfect. Which is why this precog knew it quantum-mechanically in advance.
Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.
I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.
Wow, you are so insightful. That 12 year old that became pregnant by the family pedophile should certainly be keeping her baby. She is so ready to take care of a child. Oh wait, and the drug addicted mother who can't take care of herself, let alone a child, should certainly be placed in charge of the little one. And that rape victim, who sees that rapist in their baby's face everyday reminding them of the terrible incident, yeah, she's scum for giving up the child as well.
You are a moron of the highest order and your ignorance stinks to the highest level to belch out some idiotic blanket statement like that.
The world was a very different place in the 1950's. Steve's (adoptive parents) are sure were thrilled when they got the chance to adopt infant Steve. We have no way of knowing if Steve was raised by his biological parents if he would have been the creator of Apple. What influence and interest he may have pursued and we would literally be living in a different world now. I am not a fatalist but it is fascinating to think about decision we make sometime daily that have an impact on our lives and others.
I have become quite the fatalist very recently. There's a quantum mechanical theory about this. Time and space being connected etc. Block time. It's very interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal...osophy_of_time)
dude, you're an ignorant hateful waste of sperm and egg.
Dude, hating a hater ain't helping.
As an adopted adult, I can tell you, parents are the people who raised you, stayed up late with you and waiting for you to come home, cried for and with you, and loved you unconditionally.
Steve's biological parent may want to meet him, and that's all very nice. But that person is not his father. His father is the elder Mr. Jobs.
To be fair, you are you and Jobs is Jobs. If he wants to meet his biological father it's ultimately a personal decision.
The story is tragic at so many different levels, but at the same time, it was a sequence of exogenous events without which -- to say the least -- not one of us would arguably be here in this forum today having this conversation. And a sequence of events without which the world wouldn't have been a better place.
Ah, the beauty of karma.....
And, to those being excessively judgmental here: give it a break. There are variations of this story, if you probe deep enough, in your own life or family or heritage.
A scumbag, or a little bag that collects scum (condom) .
Downer you are on.
Or an innocent butterfly in China might be dead.
I heard the news - he died anyway.
Steve Jobs? biological father says he lives in hope that he'll have the opportunity to acquaint with his long-lost son, even if its just for one cup of coffee, but refuses to be the one to reach out to the Apple co-founder.
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He reportedly rises at 5 AM each day, goes to the gym and drives in his Jeep to the Boomtown Casino and hotel where he works six days a week.
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Be careful Steve, any 80 yr old who still works so hard needs money !
A chance to get into Steve's good graces - and his wallet before he dies.
Don't fill in hypotethicals with your own unconscious.
he probably wants money if Steve was a bum, the father would never look for him.
If he was a bum he'd never know.
No, I'm not adopted. As for having compassion, I don't give it to those who don't deserve it. I don't have any compassion for people who abandoned their children. On the other hand, the children of course deserve compassion, as they had no say in the process. The parents, not so much.
Sorry, you are wrong. What you think of as compassion is not compassion - at all. If you "give compassion" to someone who "deserves it," that is pandering. It is all about you and your status -- and equally less about the person you pretend to care about. It does not even measure up to pity.
Compassion equals selflessness. You cannot try to be compassionate; either you are compassionate or you are not compassionate. Don't continue to delude yourself.
The man sounds genuine.
The story is tragic at so many different levels, but at the same time, it was a sequence of exogenous events without which -- to say the least -- not one of us would arguably be here in this forum today having this conversation. And a sequence of events without which the world wouldn't have been a better place.
Your comment supposes that the sequence isn't already mapped through block time.