One of the people he quoted has more than a decade of experience working with researchers to design exactly this sort of qualitative methodology, certainly enough to appreciate that the researchers in question have wisely chosen not to publish results at this time; more wisely, it seems, than AI's jumping to conclusion from a handful of off-the-cuff comments.
You design studies like this yet didn't feel compelled to respond the people addabox did?
You either need to take more pride in your work or be honest with us about the work you really do.
I have found that the iPad is not that great for college so far. I bought an iPad2 in hopes that I would be able to have all my textbooks on the iPad, but none of my textbooks are in a digital format. I found Evernote's Peek to be a great app in studying for a quiz. I think that for the iPad to work, universities need to embrace it and start making specific apps for the iPad or get the textbook publishers to start pushing out digital copies of their books.
You would do well to read a thread before replying to it.
I noted only that the researchers in question have not chosen to publish any conclusions about their data, in contrast to the attention-grabbing headline about here on AI.
It was actually in reading this thread that led me to doubt your claim of having spent ten years designing tests like this one.
I imagine that the researchers have "chosen not to publish their results at this time" because people died, it turned out iPads cause brain damage and the methodology involved little more than watching reruns of "Welcome Back, Kotter" while playing Angry Birds. It's a huge scandal that will set back electronic learning by decades.
Agreed, hand a student an iPad instead of pen & paper & suddenly a student who once never took notes or paid attention finds a new interest in taking notes. Give it a few years when the nostalgia has worn of & I'm sure there will be little difference.
I will say however, an iPad is a much handier tool for school than lugging a ton of books around and has more possibilities when you start talking about interactive content but that is more to do with the content & method of interaction with students. Credit there goes to the device only as a window of opportunity and not as the opportunity itself.
I personally love the idea of using more technology in education but I do not believe it should become the education. Too many kids already can't do math without a calculator or write/read cursive, it's just plain ridiculous. These kids get in the real world where they have to do work that isn't actually fun & they whine about life being unfair. Learning how to self discipline is an extremely important part of education.
We need good teachers not tech toys in the classroom.
And yet these are few and far between.
Back when I was at school most of the teachers just got us to write crap from the board which was just stuff taken from the teacher's edition.
Now I put it to you why the hell do we need teachers for that when an iPad could do a better job of making learning more fun?
For instance what if there was an app that allowed us to mix chemicals together and show us the results? Chemicals that are too expensive for classrooms? We'd have more people interested in chemistry.
Interactive patients without the setup costs? More people interested in biology, anatomy, better class of doctors because they can learn when they want wherever they are.
This simply cannot be done in a classroom.
What's more is on average you have 30 kids to one teacher. It is IMPOSSIBLE to teach everyone reliably and how they need to be taught. As a result some kids are getting left behind because the teacher either has given up on them, doesn't have the resources to tailor their teaching methods, or simply doesn't have time to invest in one student beyond normal school day. An iPad will NEVER leave a child behind although the child might leave it behind.
I don't think an iPad could replace a teacher but it can definitely help the child beyond the classroom. The child being able to learn at his/her own pace is far better than having a teacher give up on them. Trust me, it sucks having a teacher disregard you simply because they think you're dumb. As a result we play up and mess around. I learnt more out of school than I did in it. About the only thing I did learn at school is that if you twist three wires together and place them in a power socket and turn the power on a great big spark flies out across the table and blows the fuse to two desks. :-)
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One of the people he quoted has more than a decade of experience working with researchers to design exactly this sort of qualitative methodology, certainly enough to appreciate that the researchers in question have wisely chosen not to publish results at this time; more wisely, it seems, than AI's jumping to conclusion from a handful of off-the-cuff comments.
You design studies like this yet didn't feel compelled to respond the people addabox did?
You either need to take more pride in your work or be honest with us about the work you really do.
You would do well to read a thread before replying to it.
I noted only that the researchers in question have not chosen to publish any conclusions about their data, in contrast to the attention-grabbing headline about here on AI.
It was actually in reading this thread that led me to doubt your claim of having spent ten years designing tests like this one.
Correlation is not causation.
Agreed, hand a student an iPad instead of pen & paper & suddenly a student who once never took notes or paid attention finds a new interest in taking notes. Give it a few years when the nostalgia has worn of & I'm sure there will be little difference.
I will say however, an iPad is a much handier tool for school than lugging a ton of books around and has more possibilities when you start talking about interactive content but that is more to do with the content & method of interaction with students. Credit there goes to the device only as a window of opportunity and not as the opportunity itself.
I personally love the idea of using more technology in education but I do not believe it should become the education. Too many kids already can't do math without a calculator or write/read cursive, it's just plain ridiculous. These kids get in the real world where they have to do work that isn't actually fun & they whine about life being unfair. Learning how to self discipline is an extremely important part of education.
We need good teachers not tech toys in the classroom.
And yet these are few and far between.
Back when I was at school most of the teachers just got us to write crap from the board which was just stuff taken from the teacher's edition.
Now I put it to you why the hell do we need teachers for that when an iPad could do a better job of making learning more fun?
For instance what if there was an app that allowed us to mix chemicals together and show us the results? Chemicals that are too expensive for classrooms? We'd have more people interested in chemistry.
Interactive patients without the setup costs? More people interested in biology, anatomy, better class of doctors because they can learn when they want wherever they are.
This simply cannot be done in a classroom.
What's more is on average you have 30 kids to one teacher. It is IMPOSSIBLE to teach everyone reliably and how they need to be taught. As a result some kids are getting left behind because the teacher either has given up on them, doesn't have the resources to tailor their teaching methods, or simply doesn't have time to invest in one student beyond normal school day. An iPad will NEVER leave a child behind although the child might leave it behind.
I don't think an iPad could replace a teacher but it can definitely help the child beyond the classroom. The child being able to learn at his/her own pace is far better than having a teacher give up on them. Trust me, it sucks having a teacher disregard you simply because they think you're dumb. As a result we play up and mess around. I learnt more out of school than I did in it. About the only thing I did learn at school is that if you twist three wires together and place them in a power socket and turn the power on a great big spark flies out across the table and blows the fuse to two desks. :-)