Google, T-Mobile petition ITC to allow Android to freely infringe Apple's iOS

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  • Reply 21 of 118
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
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    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    I wonder what happened to "we're going to hold off on doing things out of respect for Steve Jobs"?



    It's rubbish, they'll hold off until Samsung can configure their photocopiers, just like they did when the iPad 2 was announced.



    Then again ice cream sandwich might not be ready, Samsung probably doesn't want to be associated with another Xoom like flop.
  • Reply 22 of 118
    mzaslovemzaslove Posts: 519member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    After the unveiling of the first production release of Android, one of the higher-ups at Google reportedly whispered in horror to Eric Schmidt:



    "We have become Microsoft, destroyer of IP?"






    Thank-you Mr. Oppenpage.
  • Reply 22 of 118
    richlrichl Posts: 2,213member
    DED sounds seriously butt hurt.
  • Reply 24 of 118
    markbmarkb Posts: 153member
    Man it sounds like "Do No Evil" has turned into "Kick puppies if it will make you a nickel"
  • Reply 25 of 118
    jetzjetz Posts: 1,293member
    What a sensationalist headline.
  • Reply 26 of 118
    xsuxsu Posts: 401member
    If this somehow was agreed by ITC, then it's pretty much end of patents as we know it. Anyone can freely copy a uniquely successful product in the market, because not allowing the copy to exist would allow that product to establish a virtual monopoly. Now maybe that's what Google wants, but we better not hear google later sue someone for copying their search engine.
  • Reply 27 of 118
    conradjoeconradjoe Posts: 1,887member
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    Originally Posted by Jetz View Post


    What a sensationalist headline.



    Typical DED - you can often guess that it is his writing because the scenario presented is unlikely to be in accord with the facts of the matter. Or any conceivable facts of any matter.
  • Reply 28 of 118
    Wow. Even the Chinese don't argue like that. :-). If this went Google way, the Chinese would be thrilled.
  • Reply 29 of 118
    In the best interest of competition, Google's Android should be removed from the market immediately. The continued active and passive theft that has occurred in the name of that platform should cease. It sends the wrong message to entrepreneurs, companies, developers, and the industry in general. It sends the message that STEALING is ok as long as it's wrapped in a corporate veil (with numerous lawyers hired to conceal the lies). We will ALL (even Android users) suffer if this wrong is not righted.
  • Reply 30 of 118
    mwhitecomwhiteco Posts: 112member
    I guess if stealing is ok why don't we all go and steal the phones, tablets, ect. and see how they like people who steal
  • Reply 31 of 118
    conradjoeconradjoe Posts: 1,887member
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    Originally Posted by mwhiteco View Post


    I guess if stealing is ok



    What a bizarre POV. Stealing is wrong.
  • Reply 32 of 118
    I am not a fan of these tech patent wars.



    My bigger concern is everyone declaring full on war on Apple. All it takes is one patent ruling to cause all kinds of havoc on future Apple innovations.



    IP trades and royalty deals are much better than wars.
  • Reply 33 of 118
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member
    I love watching Google fandroids crapping themselves over this latest stunt.
  • Reply 34 of 118
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    Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post


    Seriously they purposefully copied Apples iOS devices including the copyrighted or patented aspects. That can not be allowed to stand. Sadly it appears that they did this on purpose because they had no confidence in their own processes and software stack.



    What really blows here is that Android had the makings of a really decent iPhone competitor but instead took a turn towards theft. No body at Google should be proud of what Android has become. Rather they should be embarrassed and ashamed that they took the route of the common criminal.



    First of all google did not copy iOS it is really sad some people are to ignorant to understand that. First of all the way the two OSs operate is totally different. Google uses a virtual machine called Dalvic very similar to java in order to interact with the soft ware and the hardware. iOS does not use a virtual machine to interact with software and hardware it is more direct on soft ware communicates with the machine language.



    The next thing that is completely different about the OSs is the user interface. iOS goes the way of have no home screen and having the user doing everything directly from the app drawl. Android however does it a differently. Android does it similar to how Blackberry OS and Windows mobile have done it for years. Android has an App drawl that all the apps are placed in. Then it has a seperate homescreen that the user interacts with. this home screen contains the shortcut to applications and widgets this is similar to those previous OSs.



    What happened was Android was being developed to compete with the then current heavy weights of the industry and was taking the best things from those OSs and makign android with it. At that time smartphones where keyboard based. Then the iPhone was Released and the demand for smartphones shifted. People did not want the keyboard based any more so as demand shifted so did did the androids offerings. Instead of offering an OS that would not even be desirable to consumers android was made touch orientated and DID COPY MULTITOUCH AND PINCH TO ZOOM however most of the things in the Os where virtually the same. Android being touch based does not make it an iOS copy. Having the grid of Icons is not because that was around far before iOS. If you use them both you will see the differences are vast.
  • Reply 35 of 118
    Dan_DilgerDan_Dilger Posts: 1,583member
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    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    I wonder what happened to "we're going to hold off on doing things out of respect for Steve Jobs"?



    It was reported that way, but it was really more of a "we're going to hold off on unveiling Android 4.0 ICS out of respect for Steve Jobs' death because nobody will be paying attention to our announcements if we make them right now, and its not ready yet anyway, so this gives us an excuse to punt our release down the field a bit while avoiding criticism."



    Android 4 looks primarily like a new iTunes clone Music app, a new G+ Facebook clone app, and the smartphone version of Honeycomb.
  • Reply 36 of 118
    conradjoeconradjoe Posts: 1,887member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Technarchy View Post




    My bigger concern is everyone declaring full on war on Apple. All it takes is one patent ruling to cause all kinds of havoc on future Apple innovations.






    Apple is not a beleaguered underdog. They are a huge corporation who hire lawyers like most people buy Candy Corn.



    Apple has already lost many, many patent rulings. No havoc yet.



    Your worries seem misplaced.
  • Reply 37 of 118
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    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post


    I love watching Google fandroids crapping themselves over this latest stunt.



    The only person who appears to be crapping himself about this news is DED. And this title (along with his other horribly written rant-fests) show he is most certainly not a fandroid .



    "Google is evil!"

    "Google's terrible!"

    "They can't do this!"



    ^^

    Not the comments of scared fandroids
  • Reply 38 of 118
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    Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post


    Typical DED - you can often guess that it is his writing because the scenario presented is unlikely to be in accord with the facts of the matter. Or any conceivable facts of any matter.



    Conradjoe, I read both Dilger's and Mueller's articles, and it appears that the scenario presented is in accord with the facts. Can you be more specific? Or are you just blowing smoke?
  • Reply 39 of 118
    conradjoeconradjoe Posts: 1,887member
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    Originally Posted by Windsor Smith View Post


    Conradjoe, I read both Dilger's and Mueller's articles, and it appears that the scenario presented is in accord with the facts. Can you be more specific? Or are you just blowing smoke?



    They never asked the ITC to "allow Android to freely infringe Apple's iOS".
  • Reply 40 of 118
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post


    They never asked the ITC to "allow Android to freely infringe Apple's iOS".



    They asked the ITC not to ban Android devices even if Android is found to infringe Apple's intellectual property. Isn't that effectively the same thing?
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