How do we know if it is not something to do with webkit on iOS 5?
I mean, I just ran the test, and I scored about the same 52000ish on iPhone 4 with iOS 5.
Like everyone is saying, it's both a new webkit, better JIT javascript compiler, and iPhone 5 hardware. Getting 89k with iOS 5 on an iPhone 4S is actually pretty impressive. (Unless BrowserMark is actually efficiently multithreaded, which I don't think it is).
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But I am not sure if it reflects the true performance of the phone.
Yes. It only reflects the performance of iOS 5 javascript performance.
I can tell you that Sprint has already had several "world phones" with GSM. Including my previous HTC Touch Pro 2. They make it difficult to use GSM here in the U.S. with AT&T and T-Mobile for example, but it is very easy to use it overseas with any carrier you want. Just pop in a SIM card in your carrier of choice in the country and you are good to go. I used it in Asia and Europe without any problems. I doubt the iPhone 4S will be any different. Assuming you can find a micro-Sim card to work in the country you are visiting.
I have heard this story both ways. Thus why I am waiting. If Sprint does the GSM unlocked, that's a HUGE feature that for me outweighs almost everything else.
Then again, I don't think the GSM will be unlocked by Verizon or Sprint, but I am waiting to see
errr how? Sure this shows a great improvement over iPhone 4, but it's only in line (and even slightly behind) competing phones/processors that have been out for 6-8 months already. This chart doesn't even show OMAP4. How will that 51k look in 3 months?
Color me not that impressed.
Uh, 51k is the current iPhone 4. In other words, the 17 month old iPhone 4 with a single ~800 Mhz A8 core is matching current top-of-the-line Android phones with two 1 Ghz A9 cores (Tegra 2) or two 1.2 Ghz A9 cores (Exynos). The iPhone 4S, with two A9 cores, scores ~90k, destroying the Android competition.
That said, I don't know how much of the performance improvement is specific to iOS 5 (vs iOS 4.3.1). I'm pretty sure Browsermark scores went up a lot when they released iOS 4.3 with the Nitro Javascript engine. The old iPhone 4 score in the bar chart is from iOS 4.2.1 (i.e., pre-Nitro).
The Sunspider score of 2221 is impressive compared to the GSII's (probably the current fastest Android phone) score of ~4000, almost twice as long. Nicely done.
What I'd like to see though is a quicker way of using tabbed browsing, I'm sure the dual core can put up with it just fine as third party browsers already do this on single cores. The scores are impressive, but they also show that both cores aren't used fully on single pages, so they could be used for faster multiple pages.
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(Unless BrowserMark is actually efficiently multithreaded, which I don't think it is).
Most of that is down to the browser, I think. Like on desktops, different browsers are better at using multiple cores, Chrome always seems to improve scores most with core counts (to a point, of course).
errr how? Sure this shows a great improvement over iPhone 4, but it's only in line (and even slightly behind) competing phones/processors that have been out for 6-8 months already. This chart doesn't even show OMAP4. How will that 51k look in 3 months?
Color me not that impressed.
It is ridiculous comments like this that reinforce the notion that the truly clueless are alive and well. This is not about my Dick is bigger than yours. It is showing that the new phone will be extremely fast and on par with the top of the line $G / LTE competition, if not better. The reality is that the entire iOS ecosystem totally blows the doors of all other comers. Period. It is not individual hardware feature comparisons - it is about the whole integrated approach of hardware, software and total platform - it is the whole enchilada! It is just like the anal-retentives that want to talk about their 8 mpxl cameras "and the iPhone's is only 5". The reality is that the iPhone's current camera has been shown to be better than most IF NOT ALL of the 8's out there.
That BrowserMark chart is grossly misleading. The Galaxy S2 has nowhere near that low of a score. In fact, it actually scores in the mid-90k range. And that's on the older version of Android back in June.
Assuming you can find a micro-Sim card to work in the country you are visiting.
MicroSIM cards are available in most European countries. If not, you can buy a cutter for your larger SIM, for something like ? 10. or walk into a phoneshop, most cut it for you - for free. The chip on the card is the same; only the plastic is larger.
1 GHz. But it is aggressively power slewed to conserve battery. So it is dependent on workload. It is likely that the chip only hits 1 GHz for very short bursts at a time while most of the time it is running at a much lower clock rate.
There's nothing unusual about this. The vast majority of processors today do this.
errr how? Sure this shows a great improvement over iPhone 4, but it's only in line (and even slightly behind) competing phones/processors that have been out for 6-8 months already. This chart doesn't even show OMAP4. How will that 51k look in 3 months?
Color me not that impressed.
The new 51k number is for an iPhone 4, repeat, iPhone 4, not the new iPhone 4S, running the new iOS 5. In other word, iOS 5 upgrade doubled benchmark performance of iPhone 4. Which is running a single core A4 at 800mhz, and obtained performance roughly equals to competition running dual core chip at 1Ghz or above.
If you are still not impressed, then you need to get checked out.
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How do we know if it is not something to do with webkit on iOS 5?
I mean, I just ran the test, and I scored about the same 52000ish on iPhone 4 with iOS 5.
Like everyone is saying, it's both a new webkit, better JIT javascript compiler, and iPhone 5 hardware. Getting 89k with iOS 5 on an iPhone 4S is actually pretty impressive. (Unless BrowserMark is actually efficiently multithreaded, which I don't think it is).
But I am not sure if it reflects the true performance of the phone.
Yes. It only reflects the performance of iOS 5 javascript performance.
I can tell you that Sprint has already had several "world phones" with GSM. Including my previous HTC Touch Pro 2. They make it difficult to use GSM here in the U.S. with AT&T and T-Mobile for example, but it is very easy to use it overseas with any carrier you want. Just pop in a SIM card in your carrier of choice in the country and you are good to go. I used it in Asia and Europe without any problems. I doubt the iPhone 4S will be any different. Assuming you can find a micro-Sim card to work in the country you are visiting.
I have heard this story both ways. Thus why I am waiting. If Sprint does the GSM unlocked, that's a HUGE feature that for me outweighs almost everything else.
Then again, I don't think the GSM will be unlocked by Verizon or Sprint, but I am waiting to see
errr how? Sure this shows a great improvement over iPhone 4, but it's only in line (and even slightly behind) competing phones/processors that have been out for 6-8 months already. This chart doesn't even show OMAP4. How will that 51k look in 3 months?
Color me not that impressed.
Uh, 51k is the current iPhone 4. In other words, the 17 month old iPhone 4 with a single ~800 Mhz A8 core is matching current top-of-the-line Android phones with two 1 Ghz A9 cores (Tegra 2) or two 1.2 Ghz A9 cores (Exynos). The iPhone 4S, with two A9 cores, scores ~90k, destroying the Android competition.
That said, I don't know how much of the performance improvement is specific to iOS 5 (vs iOS 4.3.1). I'm pretty sure Browsermark scores went up a lot when they released iOS 4.3 with the Nitro Javascript engine. The old iPhone 4 score in the bar chart is from iOS 4.2.1 (i.e., pre-Nitro).
What I'd like to see though is a quicker way of using tabbed browsing, I'm sure the dual core can put up with it just fine as third party browsers already do this on single cores. The scores are impressive, but they also show that both cores aren't used fully on single pages, so they could be used for faster multiple pages.
(Unless BrowserMark is actually efficiently multithreaded, which I don't think it is).
Most of that is down to the browser, I think. Like on desktops, different browsers are better at using multiple cores, Chrome always seems to improve scores most with core counts (to a point, of course).
Bewdy mate, this SIRI thing has strine English, bonza news.
Launching on the 14th many hours before you mob get it.
Awstrayahhhhhh!!!!!!!!
Can someone test both Browsermark and Sunspider on a 3GS running iOS5? I'm curious now.
brmark: 40032
sunspider 0.9.1: 4802.3ms
brmark: 40032
sunspider 0.9.1: 4802.3ms
Thank you. Impressive for a 600MHz Cortex A8. I wonder if Ice Cream Sandwich will bring similar score improvements.
Thank you. Impressive for a 600MHz Cortex A9. I wonder if Ice Cream Sandwich will bring similar score improvements.
Cortex A8
Yeah, the 3GS still holds its own. The PS2 of phones.
BrowserMark score: 52,721
Sunspider 0.9.1: 3583.5ms +/- 0.3%
errr how? Sure this shows a great improvement over iPhone 4, but it's only in line (and even slightly behind) competing phones/processors that have been out for 6-8 months already. This chart doesn't even show OMAP4. How will that 51k look in 3 months?
Color me not that impressed.
It is ridiculous comments like this that reinforce the notion that the truly clueless are alive and well. This is not about my Dick is bigger than yours. It is showing that the new phone will be extremely fast and on par with the top of the line $G / LTE competition, if not better. The reality is that the entire iOS ecosystem totally blows the doors of all other comers. Period. It is not individual hardware feature comparisons - it is about the whole integrated approach of hardware, software and total platform - it is the whole enchilada! It is just like the anal-retentives that want to talk about their 8 mpxl cameras "and the iPhone's is only 5". The reality is that the iPhone's current camera has been shown to be better than most IF NOT ALL of the 8's out there.
Thank you. Impressive for a 600MHz Cortex A9. I wonder if Ice Cream Sandwich will bring similar score improvements.
So? Who the fk cares?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld0KMsxax2I
I want to know what's the actual clock speed of the iPad 2 then?
Sixty seconds per minute, sixty minutes per hour; approximately.
Cheers
Assuming you can find a micro-Sim card to work in the country you are visiting.
MicroSIM cards are available in most European countries. If not, you can buy a cutter for your larger SIM, for something like ? 10. or walk into a phoneshop, most cut it for you - for free. The chip on the card is the same; only the plastic is larger.
Cortex A8
Yeah, the 3GS still holds its own. The PS2 of phones.
Edit? What edit? I said A8 the first time
So? Who the fk cares?
Uh, I do. Why do you care that I care?
1 GHz. But it is aggressively power slewed to conserve battery. So it is dependent on workload. It is likely that the chip only hits 1 GHz for very short bursts at a time while most of the time it is running at a much lower clock rate.
There's nothing unusual about this. The vast majority of processors today do this.
Thanks
errr how? Sure this shows a great improvement over iPhone 4, but it's only in line (and even slightly behind) competing phones/processors that have been out for 6-8 months already. This chart doesn't even show OMAP4. How will that 51k look in 3 months?
Color me not that impressed.
The new 51k number is for an iPhone 4, repeat, iPhone 4, not the new iPhone 4S, running the new iOS 5. In other word, iOS 5 upgrade doubled benchmark performance of iPhone 4. Which is running a single core A4 at 800mhz, and obtained performance roughly equals to competition running dual core chip at 1Ghz or above.
If you are still not impressed, then you need to get checked out.