Apple will never win the eBook war as long as you can't read an iBook in direct sun. Epic fail. ...
So, you're saying that the Kindle Fire because it doesn't have an e-ink screen will, ipso facto, be an epic fail, too? I guess Amazon didn't get the memo before they announced it. Funny how they didn't notice that Kindle with e-ink was wiping the Floor with iPad.
If you're going to troll here, please make at least a small attempt to appear rational. What some like to do is read their posts before hitting the submit button and ask themselves, "Does that actually make any sense at all or will I just look like an utter fool for posting it?"
The article is about an e-book format for Kindles with HTML5 support - not devices.
Apple may currently have a slight edge with the iPad from a technical standpoint, but is losing on the support front with the publication industry.
Content is king - not the device.
This news just may be a game changer and force Apple to review it's business model.
They aren't going to need to review their business model over this. At most, they may want to consider adding HTML5 e-book support, or something like it, to iBooks, which would be trivial for them to do. Of course, I'm sure they are likely investigating a number of options for richer formats in e-books, some of which might be better than HTML5.
The problem with both iBooks and Kindle is not formats, those are easy to improve. The problem is the DRM. I don't plan on buying IBooks or Kindle books, or any other DRM'd e-books, until they start using a common, open standard for DRM, one that won't lock me into a specific reader.
Consider this: Most of us here are still likely to be alive 30 years from now, and if not us, our children, who may still be around in 50-60 years or more. With a physical book, it doesn't matter if the publisher, printer, bookseller or anyone else went out of business since it was published. With an e-book, if the distributor/reader maker goes out of business and you can't get hardware to run the old reader on, all your e-books are worthless.
Now, both Amazon and Apple seem like healthy companies today, but 30-60 years is a long time. There's no guarantee that either of them will be in business that far down the road, and, if not, your e-books may be nothing but digital detritus. Call me crazy, but, when I buy a book, I'd like to be able to read it years later, if I want to, or have it available for someone else to read, and with proprietary DRM, there's no guarantee that will be the case.
So, you're saying that the Kindle Fire because it doesn't have an e-ink screen will, ipso facto, be an epic fail, too? I guess Amazon didn't get the memo before they announced it. Funny how they didn't notice that Kindle with e-ink was wiping the Floor with iPad.
If you're going to troll here, please make at least a small attempt to appear rational. What some like to do is read their posts before hitting the submit button and ask themselves, "Does that actually make any sense at all or will I just look like an utter fool for posting it?"
If you knew anything about Amazon you would realize they sell both kinds of devices and their eBooks work on both. Take your leg out your ear before you type. And stop calling people trolls.
BTW Amazon now has two major innovations within the past month- who knew?
If you knew anything about Amazon you would realize they sell both kinds of devices and their eBooks work on both. Take your leg out your ear before you type. And stop calling people trolls.
BTW Amazon now has two major innovations within the past month- who knew?
Apple will never win the eBook war as long as you can't read an iBook in direct sun. Epic fail. I still love my iPad regardless, but will buy Steve Jobs ala Kindle.
Not only that, but you can't even read iBooks on a Mac which makes exactly ZERO sense. I stay with the Kindle app because I can read on my iPhone, my Mac and I'll soon own a Kindle and they all whisper-sync. That's true cloud computing!
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Originally Posted by tonton
Nope. Because I'll be swimming.
Seriously, out of 100 people who read, how many read at night? How many read in broad daylight, outside, out of the shade? "Epic fail?" More like epic hyperbole.
I do. My kids will swim for much longer than I care to swim when we are on vacation and so I'll go in and out of the shade and read.
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Originally Posted by allblue
I know if you spend time on the internet it may seem that way, but I think there are still more than a hundred people that can read. The number is dwindling fast though...
So, you're saying that the Kindle Fire because it doesn't have an e-ink screen will, ipso facto, be an epic fail, too? I guess Amazon didn't get the memo before they announced it. Funny how they didn't notice that Kindle with e-ink was wiping the Floor with iPad.
If you're going to troll here, please make at least a small attempt to appear rational. What some like to do is read their posts before hitting the submit button and ask themselves, "Does that actually make any sense at all or will I just look like an utter fool for posting it?"
Maybe, just maybe, you should turn the mirror inwards and ask yourself the same question in this case.
True- but you still can't read in broad daylight outside.
That's strange. I do it everyday. Just turn to limit the glare. It auto adjusts the backlighting to improve read ability. You can actually read it. Not as clear I guess but the Kindle is useless without light.
… and I still can't find the switch for the backlight on my Kindle.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by genovelle
That's strange. I do it everyday. Just turn to limit the glare. It auto adjusts the backlighting to improve read ability. You can actually read it. Not as clear I guess but the Kindle is useless without light.
I own both and sorry but the iPad simply does not work outside in a park beachside or poolside or what have you unless you hide under a cardboard box. As far as the kindle not being backlit- is an actual physical book backlit? The purpose of a Kindle is to replicate a book in electronic form which It does and is why it is so successful. Thomas Edison's light bulb is still very popular in case you haven't noticed.
So, you're saying that the Kindle Fire because it doesn't have an e-ink screen will, ipso facto, be an epic fail, too? I guess Amazon didn't get the memo before they announced it. Funny how they didn't notice that Kindle with e-ink was wiping the Floor with iPad.
If you're going to troll here, please make at least a small attempt to appear rational. What some like to do is read their posts before hitting the submit button and ask themselves, "Does that actually make any sense at all or will I just look like an utter fool for posting it?"
Do you know the number of ebooks sold by iBooks vs Kindle ebooks? We are talking eReaders here.
Also you don't need a Kindlefire to read this enhanced format- I suggest you read before commenting and labeling members here trolls.
Do you know the number of ebooks sold by iBooks vs Kindle ebooks? We are talking eReaders here.
Also you don't need a Kindlefire to read this enhanced format- I suggest you read before commenting and labeling members here trolls.
Thought you'd try to respond again? Nice try but this one is a non sequitur. Having some cognitive issues? I suggest you leave and don't come back before you embarrass yourself even more.
I own both and sorry but the iPad simply does not work outside in a park beachside or poolside or what have you unless you hide under a cardboard box.
Think what you will. I'll continue to use my iPad outside whenever I want. Even at night.
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Thomas Edison's light bulb is still very popular in case you haven't noticed.
The incandescent lamp invented by Edison stopped being popular right around the turn of the LAST century. We use argon/nitrogen-filled bulbs now? that is, when we're not using LED bulbs because incandescents are going to become illegal.
Thought you'd try to respond again? Nice try but this one is a non sequitur. Having some cognitive issues? I suggest you leave and don't come back before you embarrass yourself even more.
Well nothing could be more embarrassing than you dodging the issues, philistine answers and
I think once Apple releases iWork '12 or whatever they will call it EPUB will become the standard due to shear numbers. There are more iOS devices than any other mobile platforms and with iWork supporting EPUB as a major player (look how many Apple members are listed as IDPF members under the 3.0 section for EPUB) for the creation of EPUB documents.
It is possible that iWork has been delayed in order to have the EPUB 3 format ratified so that they can build a better EPUB development platform rather than a tack on.
EPUB can do some pretty amazing things when you look at the EPUB stuff in the Developer Forums on the Apple site. The iTunes U stuff for EPUB from Apple shows some pretty cool functionality.
On the flip, when Apple bring out an electronic-ink device (which they inevitably will when screen technology progresses to their standards ), it will wipe the floor with amazon overnight.
Why so aggressive? You'd really think some fanboy here's afraid his iPad might get outdated, which it inevitably will when tablet technology progresses
Kindle is a great product, Amazon is a great retailer that brought cheap paper books via Internet to the masses, as well as e-media. They revolutionized reading, in a much more profound way than Apple ever did, by making distance irrelevant. Want a precise book? If Amazon hasn't got it, nobody has. If it has, you can have it delivered in a day. Many people took back to reading or reading more due to that.
I'm waiting eagerly for iPad 3, this is sent from the latest MBA, and I'm considering changing my iPhone4 for an iPhone 4S (only thing blocking me is the reports that Siri sends every bit of information I tell it to some unknown server in the huge Apple corporative server farm...)
but I don't think competition is a bad thing at all. Without competition, Apple would offer 10% revenue to its developers, if it even had developers (see iPhone, first version, at release, for confirmation). It would not have copy-and-paste, iPad would have no camera.
In a nutshell, embrace competition and the revolutions capitalism bring, or go live in a communist state-driven economy, but you won't get any Apple products there. That's the only choice there is!
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Paper books will never go away. Never.
They will just become more of a commodity over time and more valuable as the digital trend continues.
What's more valuable - a baseball card or a digital picture of a baseball card? People will always prefer and add value to physical things.
The one app that nobody will be able to make is 'personability'.
People need physical contact and interactions. This 'social media' fad and all the devices that support it are a fad.
The iPad is nothing more then a glorified pair of MC Hammer pants... with the collective knowledge of the world woven into it's seams.
Tech gluttony will become a lifestyle for the poor and stupid.
Or to "re-caste" your argument: Books for Brahmins; all lower classes will read from iPads and Kindles.
Apple will never win the eBook war as long as you can't read an iBook in direct sun. Epic fail. ...
So, you're saying that the Kindle Fire because it doesn't have an e-ink screen will, ipso facto, be an epic fail, too? I guess Amazon didn't get the memo before they announced it. Funny how they didn't notice that Kindle with e-ink was wiping the Floor with iPad.
If you're going to troll here, please make at least a small attempt to appear rational. What some like to do is read their posts before hitting the submit button and ask themselves, "Does that actually make any sense at all or will I just look like an utter fool for posting it?"
The article is about an e-book format for Kindles with HTML5 support - not devices.
Apple may currently have a slight edge with the iPad from a technical standpoint, but is losing on the support front with the publication industry.
Content is king - not the device.
This news just may be a game changer and force Apple to review it's business model.
They aren't going to need to review their business model over this. At most, they may want to consider adding HTML5 e-book support, or something like it, to iBooks, which would be trivial for them to do. Of course, I'm sure they are likely investigating a number of options for richer formats in e-books, some of which might be better than HTML5.
The problem with both iBooks and Kindle is not formats, those are easy to improve. The problem is the DRM. I don't plan on buying IBooks or Kindle books, or any other DRM'd e-books, until they start using a common, open standard for DRM, one that won't lock me into a specific reader.
Consider this: Most of us here are still likely to be alive 30 years from now, and if not us, our children, who may still be around in 50-60 years or more. With a physical book, it doesn't matter if the publisher, printer, bookseller or anyone else went out of business since it was published. With an e-book, if the distributor/reader maker goes out of business and you can't get hardware to run the old reader on, all your e-books are worthless.
Now, both Amazon and Apple seem like healthy companies today, but 30-60 years is a long time. There's no guarantee that either of them will be in business that far down the road, and, if not, your e-books may be nothing but digital detritus. Call me crazy, but, when I buy a book, I'd like to be able to read it years later, if I want to, or have it available for someone else to read, and with proprietary DRM, there's no guarantee that will be the case.
So, you're saying that the Kindle Fire because it doesn't have an e-ink screen will, ipso facto, be an epic fail, too? I guess Amazon didn't get the memo before they announced it. Funny how they didn't notice that Kindle with e-ink was wiping the Floor with iPad.
If you're going to troll here, please make at least a small attempt to appear rational. What some like to do is read their posts before hitting the submit button and ask themselves, "Does that actually make any sense at all or will I just look like an utter fool for posting it?"
If you knew anything about Amazon you would realize they sell both kinds of devices and their eBooks work on both. Take your leg out your ear before you type. And stop calling people trolls.
BTW Amazon now has two major innovations within the past month- who knew?
If you knew anything about Amazon you would realize they sell both kinds of devices and their eBooks work on both. Take your leg out your ear before you type. And stop calling people trolls.
BTW Amazon now has two major innovations within the past month- who knew?
Sorry, you're still not being rational.
That is a damned hard phrase to get used to. We live in a diminished world.
Apple will never win the eBook war as long as you can't read an iBook in direct sun. Epic fail. I still love my iPad regardless, but will buy Steve Jobs ala Kindle.
Not only that, but you can't even read iBooks on a Mac which makes exactly ZERO sense. I stay with the Kindle app because I can read on my iPhone, my Mac and I'll soon own a Kindle and they all whisper-sync. That's true cloud computing!
Nope. Because I'll be swimming.
Seriously, out of 100 people who read, how many read at night? How many read in broad daylight, outside, out of the shade? "Epic fail?" More like epic hyperbole.
I do. My kids will swim for much longer than I care to swim when we are on vacation and so I'll go in and out of the shade and read.
I know if you spend time on the internet it may seem that way, but I think there are still more than a hundred people that can read. The number is dwindling fast though...
True- but you still can't read in broad daylight outside.
? and I still can't find the switch for the backlight on my Kindle.
Cheers
So, you're saying that the Kindle Fire because it doesn't have an e-ink screen will, ipso facto, be an epic fail, too? I guess Amazon didn't get the memo before they announced it. Funny how they didn't notice that Kindle with e-ink was wiping the Floor with iPad.
If you're going to troll here, please make at least a small attempt to appear rational. What some like to do is read their posts before hitting the submit button and ask themselves, "Does that actually make any sense at all or will I just look like an utter fool for posting it?"
Maybe, just maybe, you should turn the mirror inwards and ask yourself the same question in this case.
True- but you still can't read in broad daylight outside.
That's strange. I do it everyday. Just turn to limit the glare. It auto adjusts the backlighting to improve read ability. You can actually read it. Not as clear I guess but the Kindle is useless without light.
… and I still can't find the switch for the backlight on my Kindle.
Cheers
That's strange. I do it everyday. Just turn to limit the glare. It auto adjusts the backlighting to improve read ability. You can actually read it. Not as clear I guess but the Kindle is useless without light.
I own both and sorry but the iPad simply does not work outside in a park beachside or poolside or what have you unless you hide under a cardboard box. As far as the kindle not being backlit- is an actual physical book backlit? The purpose of a Kindle is to replicate a book in electronic form which It does and is why it is so successful. Thomas Edison's light bulb is still very popular in case you haven't noticed.
So, you're saying that the Kindle Fire because it doesn't have an e-ink screen will, ipso facto, be an epic fail, too? I guess Amazon didn't get the memo before they announced it. Funny how they didn't notice that Kindle with e-ink was wiping the Floor with iPad.
If you're going to troll here, please make at least a small attempt to appear rational. What some like to do is read their posts before hitting the submit button and ask themselves, "Does that actually make any sense at all or will I just look like an utter fool for posting it?"
Do you know the number of ebooks sold by iBooks vs Kindle ebooks? We are talking eReaders here.
Also you don't need a Kindlefire to read this enhanced format- I suggest you read before commenting and labeling members here trolls.
Do you know the number of ebooks sold by iBooks vs Kindle ebooks? We are talking eReaders here.
Also you don't need a Kindlefire to read this enhanced format- I suggest you read before commenting and labeling members here trolls.
Thought you'd try to respond again? Nice try but this one is a non sequitur. Having some cognitive issues? I suggest you leave and don't come back before you embarrass yourself even more.
I own both and sorry but the iPad simply does not work outside in a park beachside or poolside or what have you unless you hide under a cardboard box.
Think what you will. I'll continue to use my iPad outside whenever I want. Even at night.
Thomas Edison's light bulb is still very popular in case you haven't noticed.
The incandescent lamp invented by Edison stopped being popular right around the turn of the LAST century. We use argon/nitrogen-filled bulbs now? that is, when we're not using LED bulbs because incandescents are going to become illegal.
Thought you'd try to respond again? Nice try but this one is a non sequitur. Having some cognitive issues? I suggest you leave and don't come back before you embarrass yourself even more.
Well nothing could be more embarrassing than you dodging the issues, philistine answers and
labeling others trolls. Begone.
It is possible that iWork has been delayed in order to have the EPUB 3 format ratified so that they can build a better EPUB development platform rather than a tack on.
EPUB can do some pretty amazing things when you look at the EPUB stuff in the Developer Forums on the Apple site. The iTunes U stuff for EPUB from Apple shows some pretty cool functionality.
On the flip, when Apple bring out an electronic-ink device (which they inevitably will when screen technology progresses to their standards ), it will wipe the floor with amazon overnight.
Why so aggressive? You'd really think some fanboy here's afraid his iPad might get outdated, which it inevitably will when tablet technology progresses
Kindle is a great product, Amazon is a great retailer that brought cheap paper books via Internet to the masses, as well as e-media. They revolutionized reading, in a much more profound way than Apple ever did, by making distance irrelevant. Want a precise book? If Amazon hasn't got it, nobody has. If it has, you can have it delivered in a day. Many people took back to reading or reading more due to that.
I'm waiting eagerly for iPad 3, this is sent from the latest MBA, and I'm considering changing my iPhone4 for an iPhone 4S (only thing blocking me is the reports that Siri sends every bit of information I tell it to some unknown server in the huge Apple corporative server farm...)
but I don't think competition is a bad thing at all. Without competition, Apple would offer 10% revenue to its developers, if it even had developers (see iPhone, first version, at release, for confirmation). It would not have copy-and-paste, iPad would have no camera.
In a nutshell, embrace competition and the revolutions capitalism bring, or go live in a communist state-driven economy, but you won't get any Apple products there. That's the only choice there is!