HTC tops Apple in Q3 US smartphones but predicts weak Q4

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in iPhone edited January 2014
Taiwan smartphone maker HTC reported record sales of 13.2 million units worldwide, including 5.7 million in the US, prompting market research group Canalys to name it the top selling vendor in the country.



Canalys' report on the smartphone market for Q3 also named Samsung the worldwide leader in smartphones with shipments of 27.3 million globally, 4.9 million of which were sold in the US.



Apple's global sales of 17.07 million iPhones included US sales of 4.6 million handsets, placing it third in US smartphones.



However, throughout the third calendar quarter Apple continued to sell its year old iPhone 4 and two year old iPhone 3GS. The company reported that iPhone sales had declined across the quarter as buyers began to anticipate a new model introduction, although chief financial officer Peter Oppenheimer said he was "pleased" with the 21 percent growth in iPhone sales over the year ago quarter, when iPhone 4 was relatively new.



Looking forward, Apple's chief executive Tim Cook said "I'm confident that we will set an all-time record for iPhones this quarter," and Canalys noted pent up demand for the iPhone 4S, adding, "we expect to see a strong Q4 for Apple."



HTC, on the other hand, has warned that its Q4 sales will actually contract, offering guidance indicating that its smartphone sales will drop to between 12 and 13 million. For Q3, HTC had provided guidance of 13.5 million units, outlook that had appeared to be conservative but which the company narrowly missed.



HTC's chief financial officer Winston Yung blamed his company's weak outlook for the winter on the very competitive environment, specifically noting Apple's iPhone. For the first time ever, Apple's iPhone will be sold on three of the top four US carriers, in addition to new regional carriers.



Previously, Android phones have faced no direct competition from Apple on Sprint's network, and only began to be challenged by the iPhone on Verizon Wireless this spring.
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  • Reply 1 of 30
    ikolikol Posts: 369member
    Of course Apple will set an all time record this quarter per Cook- this is the longest time we've ever had to wait to get a new iPhone!

    Hello????
  • Reply 2 of 30
    It always amazes me that whenever I see smart phones out and about, I see more iPhones than anything else. Certainly more that those of any single other maker. Must be a function of where I live--SoCal, fairly affluent and very trendy. Maybe when I travel to the midwest next summer I'll see it crawling with HTCs.
  • Reply 3 of 30
    jd_in_sbjd_in_sb Posts: 1,600member
    "HTC tops Apple in Q3 US smartphones using Apple's technology"
  • Reply 4 of 30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post


    It always amazes me that whenever I see smart phones out and about, I see more iPhones than anything else. Certainly more that those of any single other maker. Must be a function of where I live--SoCal, fairly affluent and very trendy. Maybe when I travel to the midwest next summer I'll see it crawling with HTCs.



    Traveling on a cruise ship this summer, I saw many, many iPhone 4's both on the boat and in Italy, Greece and Israel. More so the iPhone than any other brand.
  • Reply 5 of 30
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    While I'm certain Samsung's worldwide smartphone sales were higher than Apple's in the previous quarter, with 4.9 million shipments for Samsung compared to 4.6 million sales for Apple in the US tells me that Apple had a higher sell through than Samsung as I'm sure they had more than 300k units in channel.
  • Reply 6 of 30
    ikolikol Posts: 369member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Psych_guy View Post


    Traveling on a cruise ship this summer, I saw many, many iPhone 4's both on the boat and in Italy, Greece and Israel. More so the iPhone than any other brand.



    Only the elite can afford to take cruise ships. That would explain your answer.
  • Reply 7 of 30
    tylerk36tylerk36 Posts: 1,037member
    I see the swelling of smart phones sales as being healthy. Weather Apple is on top all the time is not so important to me. I see the competition as being healthier. I love to see the constant rise of new hardware bringing on new sales and new technology. Its good for business and good for the companies.
  • Reply 8 of 30
    I bet this is because of the "delay" in the release of iPhone4S.



    I am glad HTC has something to crow about - they shipped more phones in the quarter that Apple was releasing new phone



    How nice for HTC.
  • Reply 9 of 30
    tommcintommcin Posts: 108member
    HTC must be hoping Apple will announce many new products so HTC can look good in the quarter before the new Apple products are released.

    I would like to see all these sales reports broken down by profit as well as count. And then there is the ongoing problem of actual sales versus just shipped.
  • Reply 10 of 30
    Withdrawn - that article definitely buried the lead.
  • Reply 11 of 30
    conradjoeconradjoe Posts: 1,887member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post


    It always amazes me that whenever I see smart phones out and about, I see more iPhones than anything else. Certainly more that those of any single other maker. Must be a function of where I live--SoCal, fairly affluent and very trendy. Maybe when I travel to the midwest next summer I'll see it crawling with HTCs.



    Samsung seems to be way popular here. I see a few HTCs too.
  • Reply 12 of 30
    sennensennen Posts: 1,472member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Psych_guy View Post


    Traveling on a cruise ship this summer, I saw many, many iPhone 4's both on the boat and in Italy, Greece and Israel. More so the iPhone than any other brand.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iKol View Post


    Only the elite can afford to take cruise ships. That would explain your answer.



    Riding into work on the train this morning I saw many, many more iPhone's than any other brand.
  • Reply 13 of 30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Psych_guy View Post


    Traveling on a cruise ship this summer, I saw many, many iPhone 4's both on the boat and in Italy, Greece and Israel. More so the iPhone than any other brand.



    Well, that was also true in NYC. I remember a couple of years back, everyone had either iPods or iPhones on their commute back home. Now, I'm the only one with my iPhone (iphone 4).
  • Reply 14 of 30
    conradjoeconradjoe Posts: 1,887member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TomMcIn View Post


    I would like to see all these sales reports broken down by profit as well as count. And then there is the ongoing problem of actual sales versus just shipped.



    Not only that, but Apple has only one phone! How many phones does HTC sell? That's not fair.
  • Reply 15 of 30
    conradjoeconradjoe Posts: 1,887member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iKol View Post


    Only the elite can afford to take cruise ships. That would explain your answer.



    Generally, the demographics skew towards the elderly. Grandma loves her iPhone.
  • Reply 16 of 30
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    Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post


    Not only that, but Apple has only one phone! How many phones does HTC sell? That's not fair.



    Explain how that's not fair. It's actually perfectly fair. That's the business model that Apple decided to have.



    As far as shipped vs sold. They're almost always close to the same amounts. Stores anticipate the demand of each phone, sell their current stock, and then restock regularly in smaller amounts after that. It's not like a store purchases 1000 units of a random HTC phone and sells only 100 ever.
  • Reply 17 of 30
    freerangefreerange Posts: 1,597member
    These "mine is bigger than your's" reports are getting ridiculous. First, is it sales or shipments? Second, Apple sold over 4 MILLION iPhone 4Gs' in the first weekend. No story here...
  • Reply 18 of 30
    freerangefreerange Posts: 1,597member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iKol View Post


    Only the elite can afford to take cruise ships. That would explain your answer.



    What an idiot! There are many bargains on cruise ships, just like any other type of vacation.
  • Reply 19 of 30
    drdoppiodrdoppio Posts: 1,132member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post


    ... That's not fair.



    rotflmao!
  • Reply 20 of 30
    sennensennen Posts: 1,472member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iKol View Post


    Of course Apple will set an all time record this quarter per Cook- this is the longest time we've ever had to wait to get a new iPhone!

    Hello????



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post


    Generally, the demographics skew towards the elderly. Grandma loves her iPhone.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DrDoppio View Post


    rotflmao!



    Ah, all the usual suspects...
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