Apple accused of feeding intellectual property to patent troll

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  • Reply 61 of 270
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
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    Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post


    Off-topic perhaps, but your signature is really, really, annoying (display not content). Please consider changing it.



    Is the message in my sig really that unclear? I'd love to change it but I'm taking a stand against other posters with excessively large sigs. I can't exactly make my point with a small sig, now can I. It's exactly the same number of lines as ConradJoe's heavily spaced sig.
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  • Reply 62 of 270
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
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    Why do I feel like I'm having a conversation with a 12yo you just got back from bible camp?



    Because the conversation makes you uncomfortable when you find yourself rationalizing your views? Jus' guessing.



    Wouldn't be the first time a 12-year old made an adult reexamine what they consider right and wrong. You don't have any children I suppose?
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  • Reply 63 of 270
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
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    Because the conversation makes you uncomfortable when you find yourself rationalizing your views? Jus' guessing.



    Wouldn't be the first time a 12-year old made an adult reexamine what they consider right and wrong. You don't have any children I suppose?



    It's amazing how you can consistently miss every point. You still think good and evil run the world. You're ignored MS using it's patents to profit from Android. I'm going to ignore you now because despite my best efforts you are incapable of participating in a mature, rational discussion but I'll leave you with this: Try to separate your emotion from business and you may find yourself as successful as I am.
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  • Reply 64 of 270
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    Who said anything about a 'consortium'?



    so then they aren't ganging up on Apple.



    Yes I'm aware of the differences in the definitions of the words but to state that X number of companies are ganging up on company Z is to imply a consortium.
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  • Reply 65 of 270
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post


    so then they aren't ganging up on Apple.



    Yes I'm aware of the differences in the definitions of the words but to state that X number of companies are ganging up on company Z is to imply a consortium.



    Sure they are. Just because they don't have an official consortium, that doesn't mean that they're not trying to get Apple.



    If Google can give patents away to whoever, then so can Apple, and if the recipient happens to be a "patent troll", then so what.
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  • Reply 66 of 270
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    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post


    ...It's time for Apple to start playing hardball with those cowards. I'd like to see Android completely destroyed. The world would be a better place without Android. And if Android were to disappear, Fandroids would also naturally disappear and go extinct like the dodo bird....



    I know I'm not responsible for what other apple fanboys think or say, but these are the sort of comments I find embarrassing.
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  • Reply 67 of 270
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    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post


    Who else in the game right now can be considered a bully except Apple?



    So defending your own (non-FRAND, mind you) ideas, developments, and designs makes you a bully?



    Are you sure you understand the word 'bully'?
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  • Reply 68 of 270
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    It's amazing how you can consistently miss every point. You still think good and evil run the world. You're ignored MS using it's patents to profit from Android. I'm going to ignore you now because despite my best efforts you are incapable of participating in a mature, rational discussion but I'll leave you with this Try to separate you emotion from business and you may find yourself as successful as I am.



    . . .You left out "and just as happy". Personally I can't be happy with myself by making my success dependent on using any marginally legal means whether it intentionally harms others or not. I've been in business around 40 years, fairly successful myself. I've done so even treating customers and competitors honestly and evenly. The bonus is I actually like myself and won't look back at my life saying I wish I could make amends for numerous things that were clearly wrong in hindsight.



    Not saying that you're not comfortable with yourself too, as you clearly feel you are. I just couldn't believe as you do and still be pleased with the direction of my life.



    If that sounds like a sense of morality, it is.
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  • Reply 69 of 270
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    Originally Posted by F1Ferrari View Post


    So defending your own (non-FRAND, mind you) ideas, developments, and designs makes you a bully?



    Are you sure you understand the word 'bully'?



    Ask that Spanish company Apple went after...their tablet sure looked like an iPad huh?



    Hell...HTC devices look nothing like Apple devices...but hey...go get em.
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  • Reply 70 of 270
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    Originally Posted by rtdunham View Post


    I know I'm not responsible for what other apple fanboys think or say, but these are the sort of comments I find embarrassing.



    You need not be embarrassed on my behalf. I speak only for myself here.
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  • Reply 71 of 270
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by F1Ferrari View Post


    So defending your own (non-FRAND, mind you) ideas, developments, and designs makes you a bully?



    Are you sure you understand the word 'bully'?



    Apple is almost always on the offensive...defense is not and cannot be a bully tactic.



    Also I don't give a damn about Samsung as I'm actually kinda behind Apple on the more technical patents against them (bounce back, and some look and feel against Galaxy S phones)
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  • Reply 72 of 270
    I frequently complain about poorly written articles on apple blogs. That's not the case with this piece. There were no poorly-constructed sentences that forced me to go back and read, and re-read, to try to make sense of them. There was thorough attribution. And it seemed balanced. Nice job.
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  • Reply 73 of 270
    PS...Apple is no longer the underdog. Hasn't been for a while.
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  • Reply 74 of 270
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rtdunham View Post


    I frequently complain about poorly written articles on apple blogs. That's not the case with this piece. There were no poorly-constructed sentences that forced me to go back and read, and re-read, to try to make sense of them. There was thorough attribution. And it seemed balanced. Nice job.



    Agreed. It was pretty matter-of-factly with minimal if any bias.
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  • Reply 75 of 270
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post


    Ask that Spanish company Apple went after...their tablet sure looked like an iPad huh?



    Hell...HTC devices look nothing like Apple devices...but hey...go get em.



    Even though people like to make jokes and comments about rectangles and such, it's not just about the look you know.



    Apple's filed suit against HTC, alleging that the company is infringing 20 patents "related to the iPhone's user interface, underlying architecture, and hardware."
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  • Reply 76 of 270
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    Originally Posted by GQB View Post


    Well that last statement certainly tells us where you're coming from.

    Back under the bridge with you.



    I don't think you understood what I wrote there. I was referencing the varying stages of issues during early reports of wrongdoings.

    Take antennagate for example.



    Initially I thought "damn, that's bad" when the story first hit

    Then I thought "Apple are addressing it with free bumpers - cool

    Eventually I learned that the masses had no issue at all, coming to a final conclusion that it was a non-issue.



    During each stage of the story I was able to make different assesments of the situation without the need of "all the facts" that charlituna thinks is a requirement to have an initial opinion on something.
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  • Reply 77 of 270
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post


    PS...Apple is no longer the underdog. Hasn't been for a while.



    That doesn't matter though. It's about who is right.



    If an evil midget is bothering and bullying a giant, then the giant has every right to stomp on the midget's head.
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  • Reply 78 of 270
    What is the take away from all these when nobody knows whether Apple did the same to avoid being sued by this patent troll or whether they want to start a proxy war against other OEMs?



    But few things should be very clear. First atleast in US cour t patent troll cannot get preliminary injunction (they cannot show irreparable harm since they do not have any product of their own). Secondly even if infringement is proved damage award will be much less as there is nothing like lost sales/profits here from the point of patent holder.



    Above mentioned are disadvantages of this system. So if Apple really thought those patents strong enough to claim good damages at the end of law suit they would have never sold it to this patent troll.
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  • Reply 79 of 270
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    Originally Posted by Arasu View Post


    All bullies are at the core spineless.



    It could be bad for someone's health to believe that about all bullies. In my day I've seen a lot of spine from some of the worst bullies... and it's not always been a bad thing.



    Just saying...
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  • Reply 80 of 270
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post


    Apple should use every method that they can to crush it's enemies.



    Are there any I have left off of the list?
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