Sales have probably been good for the kindle fire. It is the most popular kindle and they must have sold at least 4 million kindles in December so that would probably put the Fire's numbers at least at 1.5 million during the month. Definitely more successful than any other tablet launch sans the iPad.
The thing that will probably be more telling is what the return rate is. If the return rate is as high as some of the scuttlebutt out there, this will not have been a very successful launch for Amazon from a profit perspective. The next Amazon earnings report will be interesting to see.
Two Kindle purchases here. One standard and one Fire. So far kids are very happy. Probably $100 spent between them on content, books, movies ect..... My only complaint is that the Fire is associated to my account and credit card with no way of changing that. My Daughter could order without my permission. I know she wont but the threat is still there. I hope they fix that or there is going to be some very upset parents which may result in many returns of the Fire.
So basically, Amazon hasn't even broken even with your purchase as they probably lost much more than $100 between the two devices when factoring in opportunity costs (costs of money), general overhead, sales marketing, distribution, shipping, warranty, returns, etc. etc. etc. Now factor in that the $100 you spent on top of the devices only returns a 2-3% margin and they have a long way to go. Also, basically what you are indirectly implying is that it's a good device for kids.
Here's a phrase you can search for: "Apple 10-Q". Once you get there, search for "iPad sales" within the document.
Heck, it's audited too!
Why are your Android people so hesitant to provide actual data? What do you think they are hiding?
Does not list this Decmeber numbers, the ones this article is talking about. PS - Fire is Android based but is not an Android device. Figured you would know that.
So basically, Amazon hasn't even broken even with your purchase as they probably lost much more than $100 between the two devices when factoring in opportunity costs (costs of money), general overhead, sales marketing, distribution, shipping, warranty, returns, etc. etc. etc. Now factor in that the $100 you spent on top of the devices only returns a 2-3% margin and they have a long way to go. Also, basically what you are indirectly implying is that it's a good device for kids.
Its a great device for kids, not sure why that is funny. It is cheap, does what they want and simple to use???? I am not a big fan of little fingers on my expensive iPad. As for everything else you mention, pure speculation on your part.
Does not list this Decmeber numbers, the ones this article is talking about. PS - Fire is Android based but is not an Android device. Figured you would know that.
You should get Apple's December numbers in January at their quarterly earnings call.
Bu-huu, why won't Amazon tells us how many Kindles Fires they sold, so that we can troll, whaaa...
I am also curious, but I don't care about the exact number. It seems that they are doing all right. The number of reviews on amazon is steadily growing, the score has gone up a notch (3.9 average), and the 1 star reviews continue to be submitted by nitwits who didn't read the product description.
Apparently the recent software update addressed most of the previous complaints about usability.
Also, a bit off-topic, there is a VERY simple way to prevent kids from buying stuff with the Kindle Fire, just remove the stored credit card number from your Amazon account. How hard can it be to type in the number again when you want to buy something?
Picked up a Kindle of the e-reader variety, mostly to save my eyes from staring at the screen between work, phone, play, etc. As a heavy reader, hopefully it'll give my eyes at least some rest.
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Has any manufacture announced sale numbers? I see tons of third party speculation but no manufacture numbers.
Here's a phrase you can search for: "Apple 10-Q". Once you get there, search for "iPad sales" within the document.
Heck, it's audited too!
Why are your Android people so hesitant to provide actual data? What do you think they are hiding?
The thing that will probably be more telling is what the return rate is. If the return rate is as high as some of the scuttlebutt out there, this will not have been a very successful launch for Amazon from a profit perspective. The next Amazon earnings report will be interesting to see.
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Two Kindle purchases here. One standard and one Fire. So far kids are very happy. Probably $100 spent between them on content, books, movies ect..... My only complaint is that the Fire is associated to my account and credit card with no way of changing that. My Daughter could order without my permission. I know she wont but the threat is still there. I hope they fix that or there is going to be some very upset parents which may result in many returns of the Fire.
So basically, Amazon hasn't even broken even with your purchase as they probably lost much more than $100 between the two devices when factoring in opportunity costs (costs of money), general overhead, sales marketing, distribution, shipping, warranty, returns, etc. etc. etc. Now factor in that the $100 you spent on top of the devices only returns a 2-3% margin and they have a long way to go. Also, basically what you are indirectly implying is that it's a good device for kids.
So does this mean one can never resell their Kindle Fire?
Good question!
but declined to get into specifics on sales figures.
but declined to get into specifics on sales figures.
but declined to get into specifics on sales figures.
Can you read? That's 1 million "Kindles" not "Kindle Fire".
Sorry, e-readers don't count.
If the "Kindle Fire" sold so well, why not break out the sale numbers?
Simple. "Kindle Fire" sales number are underwhelming.
Maybe they are following Apples lead, Apple doesn't split their sales numbers either.
Here's a phrase you can search for: "Apple 10-Q". Once you get there, search for "iPad sales" within the document.
Heck, it's audited too!
Why are your Android people so hesitant to provide actual data? What do you think they are hiding?
Does not list this Decmeber numbers, the ones this article is talking about. PS - Fire is Android based but is not an Android device. Figured you would know that.
Here's a phrase you can search for: "Apple 10-Q". Once you get there, search for "iPad sales" within the document.
Heck, it's audited too!
Why are your Android people so hesitant to provide actual data? What do you think they are hiding?
Holy hell.... Apple's revenue from the iPhone in 2011 was... $47 billion
Which puts iPhone profit at roughly $28 billion for the year.
From a cell phone!!!
Maybe they are following Apples lead, Apple doesn't split their sales numbers either.
Apple doesn't split the numbers in a line of products... but at least they give the total number!
To my knowledge... Amazon has never given sales numbers.
So basically, Amazon hasn't even broken even with your purchase as they probably lost much more than $100 between the two devices when factoring in opportunity costs (costs of money), general overhead, sales marketing, distribution, shipping, warranty, returns, etc. etc. etc. Now factor in that the $100 you spent on top of the devices only returns a 2-3% margin and they have a long way to go. Also, basically what you are indirectly implying is that it's a good device for kids.
Its a great device for kids, not sure why that is funny. It is cheap, does what they want and simple to use???? I am not a big fan of little fingers on my expensive iPad. As for everything else you mention, pure speculation on your part.
Does not list this Decmeber numbers, the ones this article is talking about. PS - Fire is Android based but is not an Android device. Figured you would know that.
You should get Apple's December numbers in January at their quarterly earnings call.
To my knowledge... Amazon has never given sales numbers.
Which is why I wonder how this is a suprise with the Fire? They never post but yet seem to be doing ok.
You should get Apple's December numbers in January at their quarterly earnings call.
Great, doesnt help with this article.
Which is why I wonder how this is a suprise with the Fire? They never post but yet seem to be doing ok.
Of course they are doing OK. I'd just love to know what kind of data Amazon has to give the SEC.
I mean... if Amazon did get in trouble with something... they'd have to report it, right?
Apple breaks down their form with all their different product lines and services... it's very specific.
Because Amazon is primarily a retailer... is their form simpler?
*searches for Amazon 10-K form*
No mention of Kindle sales or revenue numbers... the only time Kindle is mentioned is in the notes.
Great, doesnt help with this article.
Well... I don't have a f****** time machine... or else I'd help you.
I guess you're SOL
I am also curious, but I don't care about the exact number. It seems that they are doing all right. The number of reviews on amazon is steadily growing, the score has gone up a notch (3.9 average), and the 1 star reviews continue to be submitted by nitwits who didn't read the product description.
Apparently the recent software update addressed most of the previous complaints about usability.
Also, a bit off-topic, there is a VERY simple way to prevent kids from buying stuff with the Kindle Fire, just remove the stored credit card number from your Amazon account. How hard can it be to type in the number again when you want to buy something?
Apple doesn't split the numbers in a line of products... but at least they give the total number!
To my knowledge... Amazon has never given sales numbers.
Which is exactly the same thing since the product range varies so greatly in price (especially the iPods)
Well... I don't have a f****** time machine... or else I'd help you.
I guess you're SOL
I do