I think Microsoft already killed that thought. ME was supposedly so bad that people in the stores wouldn't buy a computer because it had ME installed on it...
I'm just going on tales from family and friends. I wasn't old enough to buy a computer back then!
I think Microsoft already killed that thought. ME was supposedly so bad that people in the stores wouldn't buy a computer because it had ME installed on it...
You are not wrong there... Windows Me was a total abortion of an operating system.
I upgraded my Windows 98SE install to it and lasted 2 agonisingly painful days before reformatting my drive jumping ship back to 98...
It was so bad it makes vista look like a premium quality product...
International smartphone vendors, including Samsung, HTC, Nokia and LG, are rumored to be waiting until the second quarter to release new handset models in order to avoid direct competition with Apple's hot-selling iPhone 4S.
<removed the remaining nonsense>
What you call rumor I call sheer idiocy. Sony Xperia, Samsung Galaxy Note, LG Prada -- all new models coming out now. Some fact-checking before you reprint BS?
And then cue all the knee-jerk brainless responses, as if this was real news...
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Originally Posted by Relic
Makes sense, it sucks for us consumers but I can see them waiting...
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Originally Posted by sunspot42
Brilliant timing, copycats. Just in time to be blown out of existence by the iPhone 5...
Morons.
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Originally Posted by Daramouthe
That's right. Blow them sky high out of the water Apple.
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Originally Posted by MacVicta
What a bunch of p******. Apple doesn't wait for anybody to release their phone.
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Originally Posted by jungmark
i guess they will never release another phone? I guess there's that two week period when the iphone 5 will be announced and when it goes on sale. Then again, people will complain that it's not the iphone 5S.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
At least this points out the real reason instead of claiming they holding off announcements out of respect for Steve Jobs.
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Originally Posted by pridon
Maybe they are holding off because they don't want to have to recall them after Android is blocked. They may have to bring them out as Windows Phones or whatever operating systme the "copiests" are trying to "develop".
What you call rumor I call sheer idiocy. Sony Xperia, Samsung Galaxy Note, LG Prada -- all new models coming out now. Some fact-checking before you reprint BS?
And then cue all the knee-jerk brainless responses, as if this was real news...
Aren't those three updates of existing models? Isn't the Prada years old? Nothing actually NEW here, then...
Aren't those three updates of existing models? Isn't the Prada years old? Nothing actually NEW here, then...
Yeah, and the iPhone 4S is a new type of device that the world had never seen before... please... I didn't even check the release dates for these models, if I was going to use minor updates as an argument I could say Razr MAXX, not that it matters. The sole premise of this "article" -- that other vendors are "scared" -- is wrong.
Apple has never used nomenclature that doesn't correspond to the version of the iPhone HW.
Only in a very lose way that is clear only in hindsight.
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iPhone 3G was named so because it contained the 3G HW.
iPhone 3GS was named so because it was the iPhone 3G but speedier.
iPhone 4 was named so because it was the 4th release of the HW (also contained iOS 4 and the A4 chip).
iPhone 4S was named so because it was the iPhone 4 but speedier.
Sure. There is no argument here. But not much of a pattern either...
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If Apple calls it the iPhone 5 it will be an unprecedented move. You might as well say they'll call it the iPhone 4T because T comes after S.
Claiming that iPhone 5 would be an "unprecedented" move is debatable--but even if one grants you that, it doesn't mean it won't happen. Skipping over a number (from 4 to 6) is also unprecedented.
The problem is that, so far, the naming system has been lurching and unpredictable (except in hindsight). And there are only a few in the series. Again, I am not crusading against "6". I just hold out the possibility that Apple could go with the:
iPhone 4T (if you want to have it here)
iPhone 4G (as some have proposed)
iPhone 4L (for LTE)
iPhone 5 (because that is what the general public expects)
These are just model numbers, they don't have to make sense. The only pattern here is naming for hardware design revisions...
Original hardware design
iPhone
2nd generation design
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
3rd generation design
iPhone 4
iPhone 4GS
Next generation design
iPhone WGAF (Who Gives A Frack)
Why do people get so bent out of shape over something as stupid as this? The fact that Apple has been able to carry the same industrial design for two years probably frustrates the hell out of its competitors... It's proving one thing, users are more interested in the experience the software provides.
i guess they will never release another phone? I guess there's that two week period when the iphone 5 will be announced and when it goes on sale. Then again, people will complain that it's not the iphone 5S.
Yeah, and the news media will complain that the iPhone 5 didn't have the features they wanted and how it's a disappointment. That will be the news until the next quarter results come out and quiets them down.
Only in a very lose way that is clear only in hindsight.
Sure. There is no argument here. But not much of a pattern either...
Claiming that iPhone 5 would be an "unprecedented" move is debatable--but even if one grants you that, it doesn't mean it won't happen. Skipping over a number (from 4 to 6) is also unprecedented.
You mean like Final Cut Pro 7 ----> Final Cut Pro 10?
I couldn't care less what they call it - and am really amazed that there's so much energy invested into the argument. It will either have features good enough to make me upgrade or it won't. I can't see how the name matters one bit.
I agree it will have a 4G/LTE chip. So 4G makes some sense, but not sold...
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Originally Posted by mjtomlin
These are just model numbers, they don't have to make sense. The only pattern here is naming for hardware design revisions...
Original hardware design
iPhone
2nd generation design
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
3rd generation design
iPhone 4
iPhone 4GS
Next generation design
iPhone WGAF (Who Gives A Frack)
Why do people get so bent out of shape over something as stupid as this? The fact that Apple has been able to carry the same industrial design for two years probably frustrates the hell out of its competitors... It's proving one thing, users are more interested in the experience the software provides.
HA!
Just go back to iPhone. End the naming nonsense. I mean, the biggest "disappointment" from the 4S was that it wasn't called the 5. WHO CARES? They are all iPhones.
iPods don't have numbers associated with them. Yes there was the 3G, 4G, 5G, 5.5G, but nothing people called them. They were iPods.
Oh, good. Time for hat ring throwing into to tie up these loose ends.
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Originally Posted by Bageljoey
If you see a pattern there that clearly and unequivocally shows that the next in the sequence is iPhone 6, that is great for you. But as long as people have been squawking about it, no one has convinced me that 6 is the only suffix possible for the next iPhone.
And even I'm not petitioning that. Our idea is simply to get people off the completely wrong thinking that it will be called the iPhone 5.
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Apple has absolutely shown that they will use numbers that don't correspond with the actual version number of the phone.
The iPhone and iPhone 4 want to have a word with you.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
You might as well say they'll call it the iPhone 4T because T comes after S.
That? that IS their line of thinking, though. Don't give them ideas. They'll start saying "4T is for 4g Telephony."
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Originally Posted by ko024
It will be called iPhone 4G
Apple has explicitly stated that they're going to let the carriers say what is and is not 4G. And this doesn't work in the dozens of countries that don't have LTE. It's false advertising.
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Originally Posted by Bageljoey
iPhone 4T (if you want to have it here)
iPhone 4G (as some have proposed)
iPhone 4L (for LTE)
iPhone 5 (because that is what the general public expects)
iPhone 6 (because it is obvious )
4T: He was making a joke about how the people on the other side claim 5 is a legitimate name for "marketing purposes".
4G: As I said earlier, Apple has made that not their call.
4L: Letter smaller than S; I doubt it. If anything, it would be iPhone LTE.
5: Screw what they expect. That's completely meaningless. Everyone expected iPhone 2, and Apple didn't give us that.
6: Well.
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Originally Posted by starbird
Just go back to iPhone. End the naming nonsense. I mean, the biggest "disappointment" from the 4S was that it wasn't called the 5. WHO CARES? They are all iPhones.
You can't do this when you sell three years' worth of product at once. It's too confusing. Otherwise I'd agree entirely.
Ok boardroom members, our strategy is to wait until the market is completely saturated with Apple's iPhone4s, THEN, here's the exciting part, we will launch OUR new phone, and target the dummy, low end consumers, and pick up whatever remaining table scraps that Apple leaves us. Sound good? WHO'S WITH ME?!?!
Ok boardroom members, our strategy is to wait until the market is completely saturated with Apple's iPhone4s, THEN, here's the exciting part, we will launch OUR new phone, and target the dummy, low end consumers, and pick up whatever remaining table scraps that Apple leaves us. Sound good? WHO'S WITH ME?!?!
Apple has explicitly stated that they're going to let the carriers say what is and is not 4G. And this doesn't work in the dozens of countries that don't have LTE. It's false advertising.
Comments
iPhone ME. That's the next one!
I think Microsoft already killed that thought. ME was supposedly so bad that people in the stores wouldn't buy a computer because it had ME installed on it...
I'm just going on tales from family and friends. I wasn't old enough to buy a computer back then!
I think Microsoft already killed that thought. ME was supposedly so bad that people in the stores wouldn't buy a computer because it had ME installed on it...
You are not wrong there... Windows Me was a total abortion of an operating system.
I upgraded my Windows 98SE install to it and lasted 2 agonisingly painful days before reformatting my drive jumping ship back to 98...
It was so bad it makes vista look like a premium quality product...
International smartphone vendors, including Samsung, HTC, Nokia and LG, are rumored to be waiting until the second quarter to release new handset models in order to avoid direct competition with Apple's hot-selling iPhone 4S.
<removed the remaining nonsense>
What you call rumor I call sheer idiocy. Sony Xperia, Samsung Galaxy Note, LG Prada -- all new models coming out now. Some fact-checking before you reprint BS?
And then cue all the knee-jerk brainless responses, as if this was real news...
Makes sense, it sucks for us consumers but I can see them waiting...
Brilliant timing, copycats. Just in time to be blown out of existence by the iPhone 5...
Morons.
That's right. Blow them sky high out of the water Apple.
What a bunch of p******. Apple doesn't wait for anybody to release their phone.
i guess they will never release another phone? I guess there's that two week period when the iphone 5 will be announced and when it goes on sale. Then again, people will complain that it's not the iphone 5S.
At least this points out the real reason instead of claiming they holding off announcements out of respect for Steve Jobs.
Maybe they are holding off because they don't want to have to recall them after Android is blocked. They may have to bring them out as Windows Phones or whatever operating systme the "copiests" are trying to "develop".
What you call rumor I call sheer idiocy. Sony Xperia, Samsung Galaxy Note, LG Prada -- all new models coming out now. Some fact-checking before you reprint BS?
And then cue all the knee-jerk brainless responses, as if this was real news...
Aren't those three updates of existing models? Isn't the Prada years old? Nothing actually NEW here, then...
Aren't those three updates of existing models? Isn't the Prada years old? Nothing actually NEW here, then...
Yeah, and the iPhone 4S is a new type of device that the world had never seen before... please... I didn't even check the release dates for these models, if I was going to use minor updates as an argument I could say Razr MAXX, not that it matters. The sole premise of this "article" -- that other vendors are "scared" -- is wrong.
Apple has never used nomenclature that doesn't correspond to the version of the iPhone HW.
Only in a very lose way that is clear only in hindsight.
iPhone 3G was named so because it contained the 3G HW.
iPhone 3GS was named so because it was the iPhone 3G but speedier.
iPhone 4 was named so because it was the 4th release of the HW (also contained iOS 4 and the A4 chip).
iPhone 4S was named so because it was the iPhone 4 but speedier.
Sure. There is no argument here. But not much of a pattern either...
If Apple calls it the iPhone 5 it will be an unprecedented move. You might as well say they'll call it the iPhone 4T because T comes after S.
Claiming that iPhone 5 would be an "unprecedented" move is debatable--but even if one grants you that, it doesn't mean it won't happen. Skipping over a number (from 4 to 6) is also unprecedented.
The problem is that, so far, the naming system has been lurching and unpredictable (except in hindsight). And there are only a few in the series. Again, I am not crusading against "6". I just hold out the possibility that Apple could go with the:
iPhone 4T (if you want to have it here)
iPhone 4G (as some have proposed)
iPhone 4L (for LTE)
iPhone 5 (because that is what the general public expects)
iPhone 6 (because it is obvious
iPhone
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
iPhone ?
These are just model numbers, they don't have to make sense. The only pattern here is naming for hardware design revisions...
Original hardware design
iPhone
2nd generation design
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
3rd generation design
iPhone 4
iPhone 4GS
Next generation design
iPhone WGAF (Who Gives A Frack)
Why do people get so bent out of shape over something as stupid as this? The fact that Apple has been able to carry the same industrial design for two years probably frustrates the hell out of its competitors... It's proving one thing, users are more interested in the experience the software provides.
iPhone ME. That's the next one!
iPhone iME?
i guess they will never release another phone? I guess there's that two week period when the iphone 5 will be announced and when it goes on sale. Then again, people will complain that it's not the iphone 5S.
Yeah, and the news media will complain that the iPhone 5 didn't have the features they wanted and how it's a disappointment. That will be the news until the next quarter results come out and quiets them down.
It should be noted, however, that DigiTimes' sources have at times proved less than reliable and should be met with some skepticism.
You misspelled "DigiTimes has been wrong about virtually every claim they've ever made".
Only in a very lose way that is clear only in hindsight.
Sure. There is no argument here. But not much of a pattern either...
Claiming that iPhone 5 would be an "unprecedented" move is debatable--but even if one grants you that, it doesn't mean it won't happen. Skipping over a number (from 4 to 6) is also unprecedented.
You mean like Final Cut Pro 7 ----> Final Cut Pro 10?
I couldn't care less what they call it - and am really amazed that there's so much energy invested into the argument. It will either have features good enough to make me upgrade or it won't. I can't see how the name matters one bit.
It will be called iPhone 4G
I agree it will have a 4G/LTE chip. So 4G makes some sense, but not sold...
These are just model numbers, they don't have to make sense. The only pattern here is naming for hardware design revisions...
Original hardware design
iPhone
2nd generation design
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
3rd generation design
iPhone 4
iPhone 4GS
Next generation design
iPhone WGAF (Who Gives A Frack)
Why do people get so bent out of shape over something as stupid as this? The fact that Apple has been able to carry the same industrial design for two years probably frustrates the hell out of its competitors... It's proving one thing, users are more interested in the experience the software provides.
HA!
Just go back to iPhone. End the naming nonsense. I mean, the biggest "disappointment" from the 4S was that it wasn't called the 5. WHO CARES? They are all iPhones.
iPods don't have numbers associated with them. Yes there was the 3G, 4G, 5G, 5.5G, but nothing people called them. They were iPods.
If you see a pattern there that clearly and unequivocally shows that the next in the sequence is iPhone 6, that is great for you. But as long as people have been squawking about it, no one has convinced me that 6 is the only suffix possible for the next iPhone.
And even I'm not petitioning that.
Apple has absolutely shown that they will use numbers that don't correspond with the actual version number of the phone.
The iPhone and iPhone 4 want to have a word with you.
You might as well say they'll call it the iPhone 4T because T comes after S.
That? that IS their line of thinking, though. Don't give them ideas. They'll start saying "4T is for 4g Telephony."
It will be called iPhone 4G
Apple has explicitly stated that they're going to let the carriers say what is and is not 4G. And this doesn't work in the dozens of countries that don't have LTE. It's false advertising.
iPhone 4T (if you want to have it here)
iPhone 4G (as some have proposed)
iPhone 4L (for LTE)
iPhone 5 (because that is what the general public expects)
iPhone 6 (because it is obvious
4T: He was making a joke about how the people on the other side claim 5 is a legitimate name for "marketing purposes".
4G: As I said earlier, Apple has made that not their call.
4L: Letter smaller than S; I doubt it. If anything, it would be iPhone LTE.
5: Screw what they expect. That's completely meaningless. Everyone expected iPhone 2, and Apple didn't give us that.
6: Well.
Just go back to iPhone. End the naming nonsense. I mean, the biggest "disappointment" from the 4S was that it wasn't called the 5. WHO CARES? They are all iPhones.
You can't do this when you sell three years' worth of product at once. It's too confusing. Otherwise I'd agree entirely.
You mean like Final Cut Pro 7 ----> Final Cut Pro 10?
The argument over the next "number" of the iPhone always provides entertainment
Ok boardroom members, our strategy is to wait until the market is completely saturated with Apple's iPhone4s, THEN, here's the exciting part, we will launch OUR new phone, and target the dummy, low end consumers, and pick up whatever remaining table scraps that Apple leaves us. Sound good? WHO'S WITH ME?!?!
Amazon is.
It will be called iPhone 4G
Bingo.
Bingo.
Apple has explicitly stated that they're going to let the carriers say what is and is not 4G. And this doesn't work in the dozens of countries that don't have LTE. It's false advertising.
Otherwise I'd agree with you.