FBI file on Steve Jobs reveals he was considered for White House position

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  • Reply 21 of 44
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 2,996member
    See page 80, likely to be from Susan Kelly Barnes, former Controller of the Macintosh Division at Apple, VP and CFO at NeXT:

    "She considered the Appointee to be a person of high integrity who was ethical and honest."

    "The Appointee was well off and had more money that [sic] he could spend in a lifetime and his chief concern was how that wealth would be used after he was gone."
  • Reply 22 of 44
    irelandireland Posts: 17,783member
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    17 posts in and you invoke Godwin's Law. A new record?



    The only difference here is it's true.
  • Reply 23 of 44
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    The only difference here is it's true.



    True or not, let's keep views on the government that aren't humorous caricatures of the concept of government in general in PoliticalOutsider.
  • Reply 24 of 44
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,705member
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    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    The same could be said about Obama, but he's been a terrible president. America resembles Nazi Germany more and more every day.



    Ireland, you need to have a pint of Guinness and then lie down somewhere quiet until you feel better. Really.
  • Reply 25 of 44
    swiftswift Posts: 436member
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    Originally Posted by techguy911 View Post


    So every person who has a background check done by the FBI, even if they are only being considered for a government position, can have that report publicly displayed later? Seems like a big privacy issue. How many other people have had their entire history put online for everyone to see by the FBI?



    There's got to be a time limit for privacy, or we'd have no history books. No biographies written a century later. I believe his privacy rights ended with his life.



    If this had come out at the time, as it might have if there was a Senate hearing needed, it would have been a stink.



    In actual terms, this is a decent report. The guy had enemies who said nasty things. Ho-hum. Bill Gates was arrested in New Mexico for late night hijinks. Ho-hum.



    If he was dropped, by which president or president-elect(?) in 1991? Bush I or Clinton? I'd like to know the story.
  • Reply 26 of 44
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    True or not, let's keep views on the government that aren't humorous caricatures of the concept of government in general in PoliticalOutsider.



    Just one more?



    [redacted by agent Flaneur]



    How about that, Ireland?
  • Reply 27 of 44
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    Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post


    Just one more?



    [redacted by agent Flaneur]



    How about that, Ireland?



    Lol



    Assuming you're being sarcastic of course.
  • Reply 28 of 44
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
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    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post


    Lol



    Assuming you're being sarcastic of course.



    Dead serious, in a way.
  • Reply 29 of 44
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
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    Originally Posted by paxman View Post


    Ireland, you need to have a pint of Guinness and then lie down somewhere quiet until you feel better. Really.



    Good advice, I think I'll take it for him.
  • Reply 30 of 44
    mj1970mj1970 Posts: 9,002member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post


    For one thing, America if anything is becoming more socialist, i.e. left wing, not fascist, right wing.



    Both actually.
  • Reply 31 of 44
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Swift View Post


    There's got to be a time limit for privacy, or we'd have no history books. No biographies written a century later. I believe his privacy rights ended with his life.



    If this had come out at the time, as it might have if there was a Senate hearing needed, it would have been a stink.



    In actual terms, this is a decent report. The guy had enemies who said nasty things. Ho-hum. Bill Gates was arrested in New Mexico for late night hijinks. Ho-hum.



    If he was dropped, by which president or president-elect(?) in 1991? Bush I or Clinton? I'd like to know the story.



    Ok, but who decides, why did the FBI choose one person over another? I look forward to seeing Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, JFK, RFK, MLK, J.E. Hoover, Michael Jackson, and Patton's entire file put up on the internet too.
  • Reply 32 of 44
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    Originally Posted by MJ1970 View Post


    Both actually.



    Touche!
  • Reply 33 of 44
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,705member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post


    Good advice, I think I'll take it for him.



    Yeah, actually I'll join the both of you. Love me a Guinness. And the lying down bit, too.
  • Reply 34 of 44
    xsuxsu Posts: 401member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post


    Yeah, I was thinking the same.



    People who say 'X' resembles Nazi Germany tend to have absolutely no idea what Nazi Germany was like.



    For one thing, America if anything is becoming more socialist, i.e. left wing, not fascist, right wing.



    I find it true that people who say "X" resembles socialist, left wing, or communist, have no idea what socialist or communist society would be like.



    If America is getting closer to becoming more socialist, taxing the rich and give more benefit to the poor wouldn't even be a subject that needs discussion.



    As far as economic policies goes, America is indeed getting closer to what Nazi Germany was like. Politically, you can characterize it as more authoritarian, without needing to specify it as left wing or right wing, because both wings behave pretty much the same at their extreme.
  • Reply 35 of 44
    One of the individuals interviewed by the FBI said that he did not think that Jobs was ethical or trustworthy, but that Jobs was nonethteless definitely qualified for a government appointment, because such jobs do not require any ethics. Ha!



    From context, it's pretty obvious that the interviewee was Woz. I love that guy.
  • Reply 36 of 44
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    Originally Posted by drobforever View Post


    ?They recommended him for a position of trust and responsibility,? according to the FBI files.



    ?Several individuals questioned Mr. Jobs?s honesty stating that Mr. Jobs will twist the truth and distort reality in order to achieve his goals,? according to the FBI file.



    then this:



    One section said, ?It was [redacted] opinion that honesty and integrity are not required qualities to hold such a position.?



    According to http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...U1Q_story.html



    No wonder people hate the government....



    It's pretty clear from the unredacted portions of the summary of interview that the person who said that was Woz. I love Woz.
  • Reply 37 of 44
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post


    For one thing, America if anything is becoming more socialist, i.e. left wing, not fascist, right wing.



    Erm, (from wiki) "Nazism, the common short form name of National Socialism "



    His regime reeked of socialism. How else could you get so many stupid people to do so many stupid things!
  • Reply 38 of 44
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    Originally Posted by monstrosity View Post


    How else could you get so many stupid people to do so many stupid things!



    You could start a tea Party, and call yourself "patriots".
  • Reply 39 of 44
    Glad he didn't get the role actually. He would have been under the reign of the second biggest knob head in world history.



    The first was obviously junior.



    I surmise that he hated government because they get in the way of innovation at the behest of big business "who care about as much to me as a festering ball of dog snot. If you combined their IQ you might have enough intelligence to tie their shoelace... if they didn't drool over themselves in the meantime."
  • Reply 40 of 44
    kent909kent909 Posts: 731member
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    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    The same could be said about Obama, but he's been a terrible president. America resembles Nazi Germany more and more every day.



    No kidding, just yesterday my Jewish neighbors were dragged from there home and shot in the street. The incredible ignorance demonstrated by people never ceases to amaze me. REALLY, Nazi Germany. No wonder our education system isn't getting fixed.
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