Greepeace stages protest on roof of Apple's European HQ in Ireland

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  • Reply 121 of 122
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nht View Post


    What we have in this thread is some posters failing basic internet skills:



    1) The Ignore Trolls Skillz Failure - anyone lambasting Apple for using the word "renewable" in the context of fuel cells while ignoring GP's 100MW vs 20MW overestimation is an obvious troll. Fail.



    2) The Google-Fu Skillz Failure - anyone who actually tried to Google "Apple Fuel Cell" would find that Apple has stated it will be 100% biogas. This is widely reported and can be taken directly from the horses mouth from their 2012 facility ENVIRONMENTAL UPDATE (note the clue in the title that it might have some bearing on the topic).



    "Apple is building a fuel cell installation that, when online later in 2012, will be the

    largest non-utility fuel cell installation operating anywhere in the country. This

    5-megawatt facility, located directly adjacent to the data center, will be powered

    by 100 percent biogas
    , and provide more than 40 million kWh of 24x7 baseload

    renewable energy annually."



    http://www.apple.com/environment/rep...eport_2012.pdf



    Not shutting up the troll about Apple "lying" with such an easy fact that also shows he's an idiot at the same time is a double fail.



    3) The Don't Make Stupid Statements Because Trolls Piss You Off Skillz Failure - Using geologic timescale in the context of renewable energy is like worth 10,000 lolz to the troll because he made you say something completely stupid. This is an epic failure that tragically overshadows the troll's own innate lameness.



    WTF? Who thinks this is ever a good idea? This is not fighting fire with fire. You cannot fight dumb with dumber.



    4) The Don't Ignore Annoying Threads and Get An Infraction Point Failure - This is my fail for this thread but seriously people...can AI threads get any dumber? You guys have made my ignore list nearly worthless.



    Well done.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Realistic View Post


    Greenpeace should have taken a cue from the Chinese Foxconn workers and threatened to jump unless their demands were met. Oh wait... bad idea... nobody would have card if the Greenpeace people jumped,



    Just for accuracy's sake, that's not what happened. A small number of Foxconn workers jumped, but there were no demands. It's not like anyone said "we'll jump if you don't give us what we want".



    If you look at the annual figures, there was a large spike in one year. That was the year that the Chinese government started giving large cash settlements to families of people who committed suicide while working at a factory. After they stopped those payments, suicide levels returned to the previous level.
  • Reply 122 of 122
    realisticrealistic Posts: 1,154member
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    Originally Posted by Realistic View Post


    Greenpeace should have taken a cue from the Chinese Foxconn workers and threatened to jump unless their demands were met. Oh wait... bad idea... nobody would have cared if the Greenpeace people jumped,



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    Just for accuracy's sake, that's not what happened. A small number of Foxconn workers jumped, but there were no demands. It's not like anyone said "we'll jump if you don't give us what we want"l.



    To be truly accurate it is what happened. You are correct, the first time when a few individuals jumped they did so as individuals and they made no publicly published demands. One more recent group publicly made demands that they said had to be met or else they would jump. This event was settled however with nobody jumping. http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain...x-pay-dispute/
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