CPU cores are only part of the equation. Because Apple designs their own SoC and develops the OS, they can optimize the hell out of both of them. This includes offloading tasks to GPUs and any other specialized processors they may need. For instance, the inclusion of an ISP in the A5 for realtime video processing. This is the direction I believe Apple will move their SoCs, rather than stuffing more CPU cores into a device that really doesn't need it. Of course most people will start complaining how Apple is falling behind in specs, but in real world performance it won't be an issue. Comparing specs of different mobile platforms is just a waste of time as software across different platforms may need different resources.
And as for Apple also touting specs when they release new products, they also explain the benefits and why it is important. They don't throw up a list of specs for the sake of filling up a checklist.
Nonsense. Apple is not competing against the other players. They are competing against themselves. If they can get the more performance from a quad-core chip, all the while keeping they die-size the same (if not smaller), with the same (if not better) battery life - regardless of what competitors like Samsung are using - they will do it and not even bother marketing the specs to the public at large. It's what they do. They let the all-around performance speak for itself. The only ones making a deal of specs - besides fandroids - are the manufacturers because they know they can't compete with Apple on anything else, including the usability of their handset. It's what they do and it's a pathetic and sad attempt to mislead the public.
And this is exactly what Samsung is claiming:
Quote:
"twice as powerful while using 20 percent less power," MacNNnoted the company as saying. By switching to a 32nm process, Samsung managed to build the quad-core chip without making it bigger than existing dual-core solutions.
Apple needs to buy a network. In 4 or 5 generations they'll have the perfect hardware/software combo for iphone and ipad. So many of their products rely on a reliable connection that they shouldn't allow themselves to be at the mercy of the service providers.
My wife's iPhone 4 makes and receives calls great. My iPhone 4S makes and receives calls great. Reception is better than old sanyo flip phone in same areas.
This is what a phone is simply about. And it does other cool stuff too.
No one is doing movie editing in HD or burning DVDs or processing Photoshop graphics on the phone are they? What the hell do all the specs in the phone matter. Only to idiots does this matter. IT'S A PHONE!!!
Apple's commercials exemplify this fact. They are real world usage commercials. They don't talk screen size, chip size, chip speeds, or graphic chips. All other manufacturers do advertise this in commercials.
iPad 3 only promotes the incredible new display which makes all your viewing much nicer. Not that the pixel density is this and that and better than the other tablets. They focus on what they offer and how it works for the consumer.
Only an idiot says Apple pushes specs.
Now to fight the idiots who keep downgrading my damn stocks.
Apple needs to buy a network. In 4 or 5 generations they'll have the perfect hardware/software combo for iphone and ipad. So many of their products rely on a reliable connection that they shouldn't allow themselves to be at the mercy of the service providers.
Agreed. They need to spend that cash horde on a new network that would BLOW AWAY AT&T, VERIZON, and Sprint. I WOULD SWITCH!
Twice the "performance" while using 20% less power is great but unfortunately they are probably going to advertise the hell out of it being quad-core. I wonder what people will think when dual-core Cortex-A15 has even higher performance and uses even less power?
I seem to recall "QUAD CORE" being rather prominent in the launch of the new iPad.
Apple needs to buy a network. In 4 or 5 generations they'll have the perfect hardware/software combo for iphone and ipad. So many of their products rely on a reliable connection that they shouldn't allow themselves to be at the mercy of the service providers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by djkikrome
Agreed. They need to spend that cash horde on a new network that would BLOW AWAY AT&T, VERIZON, and Sprint. I WOULD SWITCH!
T-Mobile US was apparently worth $39 billion... and that's the smallest nationwide network in the United States. Good buy? Yes or No?
Even if they bought it... how much would they spend in upgrades?
And let's not forget China, India, all of Europe, and the rest of the 70 countries across the globe.
Apple's $110 billion dollars wouldn't even make a dent...
There is a lot of room for improvement in satellite Internet and voice. If they could get the lag time down around a second, they could deploy a global network with no dead zones and bypass all the tower networks.
I can't decide which promo is worse. Microsoft's"funeral" for the iPhone or this one.
..and the basic message seem to always say "we have no imagination". Or, "we are willing to go into bankruptcy spending millions, even billions, in litigation but not a single cent into finding out who we really are and the amazing things we can do".
From the article "Apple is expected to counter its rivals with its own quad-core A-series processor later this year."
What will you say about quad-core when this happens LOL.
One thing that might be said is that programming for Android to take advantage of four cores is exceedingly difficult. Apple has simplified this with GCD, so it's more likely you'll see iOS Apps that can actually use four cores when needed.
guess the battery will now only last 30 mins. These guys make horrible phones, my girlfriend had to send one back after a couple of days when she realised she would need to charge it during the day even before using 3G or wifi. lame...
guess the battery will now only last 30 mins. These guys make horrible phones, my girlfriend had to send one back after a couple of days when she realised she would need to charge it during the day even before using 3G or wifi. lame...
Comments
They lifted the music from Mass Effect 2 - Sammy can't do anything original
CPU cores are only part of the equation. Because Apple designs their own SoC and develops the OS, they can optimize the hell out of both of them. This includes offloading tasks to GPUs and any other specialized processors they may need. For instance, the inclusion of an ISP in the A5 for realtime video processing. This is the direction I believe Apple will move their SoCs, rather than stuffing more CPU cores into a device that really doesn't need it. Of course most people will start complaining how Apple is falling behind in specs, but in real world performance it won't be an issue. Comparing specs of different mobile platforms is just a waste of time as software across different platforms may need different resources.
And as for Apple also touting specs when they release new products, they also explain the benefits and why it is important. They don't throw up a list of specs for the sake of filling up a checklist.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sflocal
Nonsense. Apple is not competing against the other players. They are competing against themselves. If they can get the more performance from a quad-core chip, all the while keeping they die-size the same (if not smaller), with the same (if not better) battery life - regardless of what competitors like Samsung are using - they will do it and not even bother marketing the specs to the public at large. It's what they do. They let the all-around performance speak for itself. The only ones making a deal of specs - besides fandroids - are the manufacturers because they know they can't compete with Apple on anything else, including the usability of their handset. It's what they do and it's a pathetic and sad attempt to mislead the public.
And this is exactly what Samsung is claiming:
Quote:
"twice as powerful while using 20 percent less power," MacNN noted the company as saying. By switching to a 32nm process, Samsung managed to build the quad-core chip without making it bigger than existing dual-core solutions.
And Apple markets their specs just as much as anyone else.
Quote:
Originally Posted by markbyrn
They lifted the music from Mass Effect 2 - Sammy can't do anything original
Check out this list of music Apple "lifted" for their commercials LOL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_music_used_by_Apple_Inc.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogifan
Is the average consumer who buys a phone even going to know what the heck quad core means?
Apple fanboys probably think consumers do not care about the number of cores, since Apple lags behind in the numbers of cores.
But if Apple releases a quad core phone first, all Apple fanboys will be cheering.
Quote:
Originally Posted by peter236
Apple fanboys probably think consumers do not care about the number of cores, since Apple lags behind in the numbers of cores.
But if Apple releases a quad core phone first, all Apple fanboys will be cheering.
Fanboys say a lot of stuff... no doubt about that. But let's forget about them for a minute and focus on what's really selling.
Did the iPhone become the #1 selling phone on many carriers because of the number of cores it has? NO.
The iPhone 4 is single core... the iPhone 4S is dual-core... and the next iPhone will probably be quad-core.
But that's not WHY people buy them...
My wife's iPhone 4 makes and receives calls great. My iPhone 4S makes and receives calls great. Reception is better than old sanyo flip phone in same areas.
This is what a phone is simply about. And it does other cool stuff too.
No one is doing movie editing in HD or burning DVDs or processing Photoshop graphics on the phone are they? What the hell do all the specs in the phone matter. Only to idiots does this matter. IT'S A PHONE!!!
Apple's commercials exemplify this fact. They are real world usage commercials. They don't talk screen size, chip size, chip speeds, or graphic chips. All other manufacturers do advertise this in commercials.
iPad 3 only promotes the incredible new display which makes all your viewing much nicer. Not that the pixel density is this and that and better than the other tablets. They focus on what they offer and how it works for the consumer.
Only an idiot says Apple pushes specs.
Now to fight the idiots who keep downgrading my damn stocks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss
Apple needs to buy a network. In 4 or 5 generations they'll have the perfect hardware/software combo for iphone and ipad. So many of their products rely on a reliable connection that they shouldn't allow themselves to be at the mercy of the service providers.
Agreed. They need to spend that cash horde on a new network that would BLOW AWAY AT&T, VERIZON, and Sprint. I WOULD SWITCH!
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Twice the "performance" while using 20% less power is great but unfortunately they are probably going to advertise the hell out of it being quad-core. I wonder what people will think when dual-core Cortex-A15 has even higher performance and uses even less power?
I seem to recall "QUAD CORE" being rather prominent in the launch of the new iPad.
Cake and eat it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss
Apple needs to buy a network. In 4 or 5 generations they'll have the perfect hardware/software combo for iphone and ipad. So many of their products rely on a reliable connection that they shouldn't allow themselves to be at the mercy of the service providers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by djkikrome
Agreed. They need to spend that cash horde on a new network that would BLOW AWAY AT&T, VERIZON, and Sprint. I WOULD SWITCH!
T-Mobile US was apparently worth $39 billion... and that's the smallest nationwide network in the United States. Good buy? Yes or No?
Even if they bought it... how much would they spend in upgrades?
And let's not forget China, India, all of Europe, and the rest of the 70 countries across the globe.
Apple's $110 billion dollars wouldn't even make a dent...
Quote:
Originally Posted by MJ4Ev3r
Samesung's video is in BAD TASTE...as always!
I can't decide which promo is worse. Microsoft's"funeral" for the iPhone or this one.
..and the basic message seem to always say "we have no imagination". Or, "we are willing to go into bankruptcy spending millions, even billions, in litigation but not a single cent into finding out who we really are and the amazing things we can do".
What do you think about this commercial?
Quote:
Originally Posted by MHD
LMAO don't get your panties in a bunch fb's.
From the article "Apple is expected to counter its rivals with its own quad-core A-series processor later this year."
What will you say about quad-core when this happens LOL.
One thing that might be said is that programming for Android to take advantage of four cores is exceedingly difficult. Apple has simplified this with GCD, so it's more likely you'll see iOS Apps that can actually use four cores when needed.
guess the battery will now only last 30 mins. These guys make horrible phones, my girlfriend had to send one back after a couple of days when she realised she would need to charge it during the day even before using 3G or wifi. lame...
Verizon's market cap is $110B. Apple could buy them in cash!
Quote:
Originally Posted by diamondgeeza
guess the battery will now only last 30 mins. These guys make horrible phones, my girlfriend had to send one back after a couple of days when she realised she would need to charge it during the day even before using 3G or wifi. lame...
You have it confused with the iPhone 4S.
http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/technology/technolog/iphone-4s-users-charged-over-battery-life-119460