Director Joshua Michael Stern is said to believe the project is "award-worthy."
Talk like that and it's an instant fail, IMO.
How can anyone say that BEFORE the first frame is even shot?
On the other hand a lot of movies are award-worthy in concept, and even in script, but the execution usually eliminates the possibility of being a contender.
Director Joshua Michael Stern is said to believe the project is "award-worthy."
This part is funny. In the first place, who cares what the director of the project thinks of his chances to get an award? It would only be relevant if some third party who had nothing to do with it but a lot of cred thought so. Secondly, while we are talking about "cred," this guy has none. Check out his IMDB. All garbage.
Did they say Two and a Half Men 'star'? Must have been a typo. Should have been Two and a Half Men destructor. That show stinks to high heaven now because of Kutcher. He can't even grow a half way decent looking beard. What a mistake.
i disagree... Chuck Lorre is the genius behind the show (IMO) and is why Aston Kutcher is any good in the show... Aston acts just he he as acted in other projects..
i will agree with you in-so-far-as "two and a half men" with Aston is the TV series of "Dude, where's my car"...
So, i was watching " the b**** in apartment 23" and James Van Der Beek IMO would have been an interesting Steve Jobs, for the 2000 to 2012 period than Aston Kutcher because I don't thnk aston has the intensity required for the role. (but then it is about the period before that) On the other hand with the film being about the period of 1971-2000 (the more interesting part of the book) , and James being "New York" and Aston being "LA" , Aston should be able to capture the "easy-going, intense, skateboarding Dude" was the high school, college, beginning Apple days part of the Late Steve Jobs Life...
Also... a minor detail, Steve's beard style does not match Kutchner's. At least not when he started using turtle necks. That photo makes you believe that a young Jobs (70's) wore turtle necks.
He did. .
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Originally Posted by ranReloaded
But I thought Steve didn't dress like that when he was about that age!?
More than once.
Interesting. If we are to believe what is evidenced on the tube, a lot of people wouldn't know what Steve looks like today, never mind 30 years ago. ( 2 minute 10 second mark)
I have to say, I think it's a bit sad that so many people here seem to know the exact brand of jeans and sneakers.
I love Apple and think Steve Jobs is great, but geez, get a life!
For a major portion of his life the guy wore one outfit. It's not like people kept a log of his wardrobe. It is an oddity not usually seen, so it got attention. Hardly using up any significant amount of anyone's life to know the elements of a man's wardrobe when he always wears the same thing.
The beard is a bit off as well as the body shape but y'know, Noah Wyle didn't look that much like Steve Jobs either:
The believability will come from the movie presentation. If a script, makeup and a set can make Johnny Depp look like a pirate, it can do the same for Kutcher. Other photos look closer than the TMZ ones:
It's possible the companies wouldn't give permission for their products to be used.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, back up, time out, I can wear whatever the crap I want to wear in a movie. PARTICULARLY when the clothing's brand isn't front and center. You're telling me every single movie has to get permission from every single brand of clothing worn by every single actor, even when you can't tell what brand it is?
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Or the producers were looking for free items as a way to cut costs…
That would certainly show their dedication to the accuracy of the movie, wouldn't it?
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
I have to say, I think it's a bit sad that so many people here seem to know the exact brand of jeans and sneakers.
I love Apple and think Steve Jobs is great, but geez, get a life!
His uniform was an Apple brand; it's common knowledge. You're on a forum about these products. I don't think you're in any position to tell people that.
If there are any better suggestions for someone to portray Jobs, I'd be interested in hearing them. I have no particular opinion about Kutcher. Great biographical portrayals have always relied on more than physical resemblance. I look to people like Meryl Streep, Judy Dench and Helen Mirren as masters in capturing expressions, demeanor and mannerisms.
The believability will come from the movie presentation. If a script, makeup and a set can make Johnny Depp look like a pirate, it can do the same for Kutcher.
I think the big problem with Kutchner is that he is very well known, and everyone who knows of him, knows he's a bit of a dummy. Steve Jobs was a card carrying genius. The fact that Kutchner physically resembles Steve Jobs actually works against him and against the interests of the movie in that way.
It will be next to impossible to watch this well-known capering dumbass play the part of a cool genius without breaking the illusion.
When they start filming the "real" Steve Jobs movie (the one based on the book), they would be better off going for an unknown and not worrying too much about physical resemblance IMO. He wouldn't be good for this part, but the example of Anthony Hopkins as Richard Nixon comes to mind. He looked very little like Nixon at all, but it's probably the best movie about Nixon you are likely to see and the closest to a real representation of what the man was actually like. You buy into him as Nixon after the first 15 minutes or so despite the lack of resemblance.
... His uniform was an Apple brand; it's common knowledge. You're on a forum about these products. I don't think you're in any position to tell people that.
I'm in a great position to say that. My feet are up on the coffee table and I'm quite comfortable.
Also your reply is a collection of mixed metaphors that don't make much sense, and .... please, please, stop using that blinking smiley.
His uniform was an Apple brand; it's common knowledge. You're on a forum about these products. I don't think you're in any position to tell people that.
Originally Posted by Gazoobee
'Also your reply is a collection of mixed metaphors that don't make much sense"
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Not really…
Oh come on ... don't get mad.
I could have wrote a long long post picking it all apart (now that would be mean), but I had to point out that it made no sense or I couldn't live with myself.
Apologies for the smiley comment. The new forums don't work very well on secure browsers. You can't use the smileys at all (which is why i've gone back to old-school smileys), so it's likely that I see other peoples smileys differently as well for the same reasons. I think they might be some kind of java crap or whatever, but all I really know is they don't work and I probably should have realised the issue was related before I complained.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, back up, time out, I can wear whatever the crap I want to wear in a movie. PARTICULARLY when the clothing's brand isn't front and center.
IF there is absolutely no way to id the brand, no. But in this case, the brands he wore are known items so much so that folks are paying attention to those details. As a curtesy in such cases, respectful producers will ask for permission.
Frankly given the budget I suspect it was a case of either they wanted free stuff and didn't get it (which is about money not accuracy) or they really don't care to be accurate. Or a little perhaps of both.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
Director Joshua Michael Stern is said to believe the project is "award-worthy."
Talk like that and it's an instant fail, IMO.
How can anyone say that BEFORE the first frame is even shot?
On the other hand a lot of movies are award-worthy in concept, and even in script, but the execution usually eliminates the possibility of being a contender.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
Director Joshua Michael Stern is said to believe the project is "award-worthy."
This part is funny. In the first place, who cares what the director of the project thinks of his chances to get an award? It would only be relevant if some third party who had nothing to do with it but a lot of cred thought so. Secondly, while we are talking about "cred," this guy has none. Check out his IMDB. All garbage.
I have to say, I think it's a bit sad that so many people here seem to know the exact brand of jeans and sneakers.
I love Apple and think Steve Jobs is great, but geez, get a life!
i disagree... Chuck Lorre is the genius behind the show (IMO) and is why Aston Kutcher is any good in the show... Aston acts just he he as acted in other projects..
i will agree with you in-so-far-as "two and a half men" with Aston is the TV series of "Dude, where's my car"...
On the other hand with the film being about the period of 1971-2000 (the more interesting part of the book) , and James being "New York" and Aston being "LA" , Aston should be able to capture the "easy-going, intense, skateboarding Dude" was the high school, college, beginning Apple days part of the Late Steve Jobs Life...
"In character"? Really? Steve Jobs didn't drink things! What a gross misportrayal!
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Also... a minor detail, Steve's beard style does not match Kutchner's. At least not when he started using turtle necks. That photo makes you believe that a young Jobs (70's) wore turtle necks.
He did.
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Originally Posted by ranReloaded
But I thought Steve didn't dress like that when he was about that age!?
More than once.
Interesting. If we are to believe what is evidenced on the tube, a lot of people wouldn't know what Steve looks like today, never mind 30 years ago. ( 2 minute 10 second mark)
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
I have to say, I think it's a bit sad that so many people here seem to know the exact brand of jeans and sneakers.
I love Apple and think Steve Jobs is great, but geez, get a life!
For a major portion of his life the guy wore one outfit. It's not like people kept a log of his wardrobe. It is an oddity not usually seen, so it got attention. Hardly using up any significant amount of anyone's life to know the elements of a man's wardrobe when he always wears the same thing.
The believability will come from the movie presentation. If a script, makeup and a set can make Johnny Depp look like a pirate, it can do the same for Kutcher. Other photos look closer than the TMZ ones:
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Originally Posted by charlituna
It's possible the companies wouldn't give permission for their products to be used.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, back up, time out, I can wear whatever the crap I want to wear in a movie. PARTICULARLY when the clothing's brand isn't front and center. You're telling me every single movie has to get permission from every single brand of clothing worn by every single actor, even when you can't tell what brand it is?
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Or the producers were looking for free items as a way to cut costs…
That would certainly show their dedication to the accuracy of the movie, wouldn't it?
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
I have to say, I think it's a bit sad that so many people here seem to know the exact brand of jeans and sneakers.
I love Apple and think Steve Jobs is great, but geez, get a life!
His uniform was an Apple brand; it's common knowledge. You're on a forum about these products. I don't think you're in any position to tell people that.
If there are any better suggestions for someone to portray Jobs, I'd be interested in hearing them. I have no particular opinion about Kutcher. Great biographical portrayals have always relied on more than physical resemblance. I look to people like Meryl Streep, Judy Dench and Helen Mirren as masters in capturing expressions, demeanor and mannerisms.
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Originally Posted by Kibitzer
If there are any better suggestions for someone to portray Jobs, I'd be interested in hearing them.
Noah Wyle.
Unless he's already doing it for the big Sony production, but still, he should be Jobs regardless of where it is.
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Originally Posted by Marvin
If a script, makeup and a set can make Johnny Depp look like a pirate, it can do the same for Kutcher.
I see what you did there.
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Originally Posted by Marvin
The believability will come from the movie presentation. If a script, makeup and a set can make Johnny Depp look like a pirate, it can do the same for Kutcher.
I think the big problem with Kutchner is that he is very well known, and everyone who knows of him, knows he's a bit of a dummy. Steve Jobs was a card carrying genius. The fact that Kutchner physically resembles Steve Jobs actually works against him and against the interests of the movie in that way.
It will be next to impossible to watch this well-known capering dumbass play the part of a cool genius without breaking the illusion.
When they start filming the "real" Steve Jobs movie (the one based on the book), they would be better off going for an unknown and not worrying too much about physical resemblance IMO. He wouldn't be good for this part, but the example of Anthony Hopkins as Richard Nixon comes to mind. He looked very little like Nixon at all, but it's probably the best movie about Nixon you are likely to see and the closest to a real representation of what the man was actually like. You buy into him as Nixon after the first 15 minutes or so despite the lack of resemblance.
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Originally Posted by Onhka
... a lot of people wouldn't know what Steve looks like today, never mind 30 years ago. ( 2 minute 10 second mark)
Double fail.
Your link requires Flash and American Citizenship.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
... His uniform was an Apple brand; it's common knowledge. You're on a forum about these products. I don't think you're in any position to tell people that.
I'm in a great position to say that. My feet are up on the coffee table and I'm quite comfortable.
Also your reply is a collection of mixed metaphors that don't make much sense, and .... please, please, stop using that blinking smiley.
I think I'm about to have another epileptic fit.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Also your reply is a collection of mixed metaphors that don't make much sense
Not really…
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, and .... please, please, stop using that blinking smiley. I think I'm about to have another epileptic fit.
Empty your cache. It would only blink if a frame of the gif didn't load. It's fine for me.
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
His uniform was an Apple brand; it's common knowledge. You're on a forum about these products. I don't think you're in any position to tell people that.
'Also your reply is a collection of mixed metaphors that don't make much sense"Originally Posted by Gazoobee
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Not really…
Oh come on ... don't get mad.
I could have wrote a long long post picking it all apart (now that would be mean), but I had to point out that it made no sense or I couldn't live with myself.
Apologies for the smiley comment. The new forums don't work very well on secure browsers. You can't use the smileys at all (which is why i've gone back to old-school smileys), so it's likely that I see other peoples smileys differently as well for the same reasons. I think they might be some kind of java crap or whatever, but all I really know is they don't work and I probably should have realised the issue was related before I complained.
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Originally Posted by SteveBalmer
"In character"? Really? Steve Jobs didn't drink things! What a gross misportrayal!
Absolutely spot on. Few people know that Steve was a closet epiphyte who would sit out in the back yard in the wee hours, in hopes of a dewy morning.
Perfect resemblance. Perfect character to play Jobs.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Whoa, whoa, whoa, back up, time out, I can wear whatever the crap I want to wear in a movie. PARTICULARLY when the clothing's brand isn't front and center.
IF there is absolutely no way to id the brand, no. But in this case, the brands he wore are known items so much so that folks are paying attention to those details. As a curtesy in such cases, respectful producers will ask for permission.
Frankly given the budget I suspect it was a case of either they wanted free stuff and didn't get it (which is about money not accuracy) or they really don't care to be accurate. Or a little perhaps of both.