I'm a huge Apple fan for 20+ years now... and you know what... I don't have a problem with this. Apple is a big target. I'm sure they do everything they can but you know... you have to expect this kind of stuff when you get to be the size they are now... and if you're Greenpeace trying to get your message out... you're naturally going to go after the highest profile target. Apple is fair game. And it's only a light. It's not like they committed trespassing or vandalism or violence. And it certainly won't hurt Apple. Greenpeace going after Apple is like a flee attacking an elephant. It may be an annoyance to the elephant... but that's all it is. Seriously... no big deal. Let them have their demonstration. They're not hurting anyone.
Apple is a big target. I'm sure they do everything they can but you know... you have to expect this kind of stuff when you get to be the size they are now...
So where're all the protests at Microsoft, Google, DropBox, Amazon… ?
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And it's only a light. It's not like they committed trespassing or vandalism or violence.
Except they just DID.
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And it certainly won't hurt Apple. Greenpeace going after Apple is like a flee attacking an elephant. It may be an annoyance to the elephant... but that's all it is.
So you've shown that it's both illegal AND has no point and you're STILL on their side. I think we might have a Greenpeace member here…
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Seriously... no big deal. Let them have their demonstration. They're not hurting anyone.
Yeah, let's just let them go ahead and break laws.
That's because most environmental groups care about money, far more than they care about the environment.
Correction: "most environmental groups today care more about money ..."
Greenpeace used to be relevant dedicated people doing a good and needed job. Sadly not any more.
You can also add most Cancer organisations and Aide groups in your "all they care about is the money" statement. It's really about the nature of capitalism and our society today and how it's gone off the rails than any particular group. Big organisations of any kind have a tendency towards corruption and without anyone to stop them and with tacit approval from the population ...
Voters in North Carolina
The military-industrial complex
Oil companies
Real estate developers.
City councils
Their political representatives
US consumers
Pet owners
Oh, the green nazis are at it again. It is really not about health or the environment, it is about CONTROL. That is the agenda. JUST SAY NO TO CARBON CREDITS AND AL GORE'S GLOBAL WARMING FARCE!!!
Let me get this straight, the US in in a depression, and Green nazis want our business to pay for the MOST EXPENSIVE POWER GENERATION TECHNOLOGIES AVAILABLE?! All to appease their group? Follow the money -- who is Greenpeace funded by? I would not be surprised if Al Gore is connected in some fashion!
Greeenpeace profits as a company by spreading Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt!
"In 1990, Greenpeace generated an amazing 43 million pieces of junk mail claiming it needed your money to “save the planet.” In 1998 it raised $118 million. Greenpeace, in short, profits from spreading fear.
Unfortunately, Greenpeace is able to fool most of the people, most of the time. At the end of 1998, it had $88 million in its bank accounts. That’s quite a lot for an organization that makes its living condemning “profit-driven big corporations.”"
It is time to start ignoring GreenPeace - actually that happened long ago.
GP are socialists that hate corporate success. Aside from the fact that their 'research' is flawed and they lie about it.
I hate Greenpeace as much as the next person but this is BS. That whole "they hate corporate success" meme is just extremist capitalist rhetoric and makes about as much sense as saying people who are pro-choice "hate babies."
Also, Socialism is only considered a bad thing in the USA, where ironically they don't even know the true definition of socialism! (hint, it has nothing to do with Nazis, communism, etc.). Lots of countries (western countries) are socialist or social-democratic and get along just fine with the business sector. In fact these countries are generally more prosperous than places like the USA and have much more favourable ratings as places to live. The people in these countries often have more human rights than you people do down in USA-land too.
Oh, the green nazis are at it again. It is really not about health or the environment, it is about CONTROL. That is the agenda. JUST SAY NO TO CARBON CREDITS AND AL GORE'S GLOBAL WARMING FARCE!!! etc etc
Greenpeace wants us to use unicorns and happiness to power the world.
If they hadn't led the absurd war on nuclear energy, the whole country might be completely carbon neutral today. Greenpeace has been one of the primary drivers forcing power companies to use coal and oil. And now they protest the innocent customers?
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Originally Posted by jragosta
... case for tortuous interference .....
Tortious? ;-)
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Originally Posted by Takeo
I'm a huge Apple fan for 20+ years now... and you know what... I don't have a problem with this. Apple is a big target. I'm sure they do everything they can but you know... you have to expect this kind of stuff when you get to be the size they are now... and if you're Greenpeace trying to get your message out... you're naturally going to go after the highest profile target. Apple is fair game. And it's only a light. It's not like they committed trespassing or vandalism or violence. And it certainly won't hurt Apple. Greenpeace going after Apple is like a flee attacking an elephant. It may be an annoyance to the elephant... but that's all it is. Seriously... no big deal. Let them have their demonstration. They're not hurting anyone.
What kind of weird logic says "big" = target!?
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Originally Posted by Takeo
Apple is a big target. I'm sure they do everything they can but you know... you have to expect this kind of stuff when you get to be the size they are now...
So where're all the protests at Microsoft, Google, DropBox, Amazon… ?
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And it's only a light. It's not like they committed trespassing or vandalism or violence.
Except they just DID.
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And it certainly won't hurt Apple. Greenpeace going after Apple is like a flee attacking an elephant. It may be an annoyance to the elephant... but that's all it is.
So you've shown that it's both illegal AND has no point and you're STILL on their side. I think we might have a Greenpeace member here…
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Seriously... no big deal. Let them have their demonstration. They're not hurting anyone.
Yeah, let's just let them go ahead and break laws.
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On one hand I think Greenpeace deserves some credit for prodding Apple to get to take sustainability more seriously several years ago.
Just curious, why do you think GP deserves any credit for this? Al Gore has been on the BOD for like ten years, now.
Maybe it doesn't have anything to do with either GP or Gore.
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Originally Posted by monstrosity
That's because most environmental groups care about money, far more than they care about the environment.
Correction: "most environmental groups today care more about money ..."
Greenpeace used to be relevant dedicated people doing a good and needed job. Sadly not any more.
You can also add most Cancer organisations and Aide groups in your "all they care about is the money" statement. It's really about the nature of capitalism and our society today and how it's gone off the rails than any particular group. Big organisations of any kind have a tendency towards corruption and without anyone to stop them and with tacit approval from the population ...
Here's a list:
Voters in North Carolina
The military-industrial complex
Oil companies
Real estate developers.
City councils
Their political representatives
US consumers
Pet owners
I am sure I have missed a few thousand.
Oh, the green nazis are at it again. It is really not about health or the environment, it is about CONTROL. That is the agenda. JUST SAY NO TO CARBON CREDITS AND AL GORE'S GLOBAL WARMING FARCE!!!
Let me get this straight, the US in in a depression, and Green nazis want our business to pay for the MOST EXPENSIVE POWER GENERATION TECHNOLOGIES AVAILABLE?! All to appease their group? Follow the money -- who is Greenpeace funded by? I would not be surprised if Al Gore is connected in some fashion!
Greeenpeace profits as a company by spreading Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt!
http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2000/05/01/greenpeace-versus-common-sense
"In 1990, Greenpeace generated an amazing 43 million pieces of junk mail claiming it needed your money to “save the planet.” In 1998 it raised $118 million. Greenpeace, in short, profits from spreading fear.
Unfortunately, Greenpeace is able to fool most of the people, most of the time. At the end of 1998, it had $88 million in its bank accounts. That’s quite a lot for an organization that makes its living condemning “profit-driven big corporations.”"
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Originally Posted by atsysusa
It is time to start ignoring GreenPeace - actually that happened long ago.
GP are socialists that hate corporate success. Aside from the fact that their 'research' is flawed and they lie about it.
I hate Greenpeace as much as the next person but this is BS. That whole "they hate corporate success" meme is just extremist capitalist rhetoric and makes about as much sense as saying people who are pro-choice "hate babies."
Also, Socialism is only considered a bad thing in the USA, where ironically they don't even know the true definition of socialism! (hint, it has nothing to do with Nazis, communism, etc.). Lots of countries (western countries) are socialist or social-democratic and get along just fine with the business sector. In fact these countries are generally more prosperous than places like the USA and have much more favourable ratings as places to live. The people in these countries often have more human rights than you people do down in USA-land too.
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Originally Posted by TheUnfetteredMind
We need a group to go project a giant middle finger onto the Greenpeace headquarters.
Haven't you heard? Giving the middle finger is considered funny and cool by the kids today. Shit Tacos or some such.
Greenpeace has supporters? Now that's news!
I guess you can find any idiot to sign a petition - apparently 215,000 of them.
I think I will be making a donation to the American Coal Council in the name of Greenpeace.
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215,000 people have signed its "Clean Our Cloud" petition
Not a one of them tweeting from an iPhone I take it?
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Message Received: Apple does not make donations to Greenpeace.
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Originally Posted by libertyforall
Oh, the green nazis are at it again. It is really not about health or the environment, it is about CONTROL. That is the agenda. JUST SAY NO TO CARBON CREDITS AND AL GORE'S GLOBAL WARMING FARCE!!! etc etc
(Don't want to post the rest of his diatribe).
Groan.... who let him out?
Yes, sorry. Relying too much on spell-checkers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference
Or just one of the multitude of "everything Apple does is wrong" trolls.
I hope Apple doesn't listen to Greenpeace. And dont give to Greenpeace.
To mix metaphors: Greenpeace has jumped the shark.
So you don't believe in climate change?
Greenpeace wants us to use unicorns and happiness to power the world.
If they hadn't led the absurd war on nuclear energy, the whole country might be completely carbon neutral today. Greenpeace has been one of the primary drivers forcing power companies to use coal and oil. And now they protest the innocent customers?
Greenpeace sometimes makes me want to burn styrofoam.