No, they are banned as long as they use the same implementation that the ITC has ruled violate Apple's patents.
They are held up to see if they are using this implementation. If so, back they will go.
Really? How do you know that? Oh, it's just you making things up.
There was a ban on HTC phones using Apple's technology. If these phones still use Apple's technology, they're banned. Permanently. If HTC really did work around the patents, then the phones can be released. But you don't have any way of knowing that.
Keep in mind that HTC said that they didn't infringe the patents originally, so their word that they worked around the patents isn't very convincing.
Why are you defending a company which can't even come up with its own technologies and has to copy them from someone else?
Stick one in with the pull down menu from iOS 5, sorry Android, will you?
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Originally Posted by sleepy3
WOW, for a second there i thought that was an iphone. THAT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE AN IPHONE. Clearly they STOLE the iphone design and just shipped a product like apple said they did.
Thanks for ignoring the point I was making, trolls.
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Originally Posted by Blastdoor
Samsung should make a generous offer to settle all lawsuits with Apple, but just ask Apple to keep going after all the other Android OEMs.
Apple wouldn't take it. The settlement, that is. They'd take the suggestion.
Really? How do you know that? Oh, it's just you making things up.
The article says so. When did I ever make things up? I have repeatedly exposed you for making things up, never the opposite.
There was a ban on HTC phones using Apple's technology. If these phones still use Apple's technology, they're banned. Permanently. If HTC really did work around the patents, then the phones can be released. But you don't have any way of knowing that.
Exactly; that's why I made the reference to Schroedinger's cat before. So far the phones are held up. If HTC were stupid enough to keep the infringing code yet claim that they removed it, then they'll be banned. Which do you think is more likely?
Keep in mind that HTC said that they didn't infringe the patents originally, so their word that they worked around the patents isn't very convincing.
Why are you defending a company which can't even come up with its own technologies and has to copy them from someone else?
I was not defending HTC but arguing against a factual error. So there goes again your straw man argument.
According to someone on MR that's a 3rd party app, not stock Android or HTC.
Interesting, thanks for the clarification if that's the case. Though we know where they got their idea for it, at any rate. Unless it came out before the iPad. Do we know a name for it yet?
Based on that slide i'd just say "Here at HTC you can clearly see our implementation is different. We send our users directly to the link they clicked. Apple runs all the links through a backend and determines using proprietary technologies the link they think the user wants to go based on the contextual contents of the entire email so you see your honor, we aren't infringing on apples IP at all. We have no intentions of sending our users someplace we feel they want to go. We truly believe that is apples standpoint and support their sheep herding ethics".
Sorry. I couldn't help it......
................just another iSheep with a humorous side for my own demise.
Really? How do you know that? Oh, it's just you making things up.
There was a ban on HTC phones using Apple's technology. If these phones still use Apple's technology, they're banned. Permanently. If HTC really did work around the patents, then the phones can be released. But you don't have any way of knowing that.
Keep in mind that HTC said that they didn't infringe the patents originally, so their word that they worked around the patents isn't very convincing.
Why are you defending a company which can't even come up with its own technologies and has to copy them from someone else?
As you know, Apple has also done this many times in the past....
According to someone on MR that's a 3rd party app, not stock Android or HTC.
We are talking about the gallery picture on the 3rd phone right? Just looked at my One X and it's the HTC gallery app but saying it looks identical to the iPad app, which I also just looked at on my iPad 3 is nonsense.
This is hardly a surprise considering where the comment originally came from.
We are talking about the gallery picture on the 3rd phone right? Just looked at my One X and it's the HTC gallery app but saying it looks identical to the iPad app, which I also just looked at on my iPad 3 is nonsense.
This is hardly a surprise considering where the comment originally came from.
Yes, particularly when you've ignored the content of his post in your reply here.
According to someone on MR that's a 3rd party app, not stock Android or HTC.
I have a HTC Rezound and would never buy an Apple product because of it lacks so much of the features that an Android phone can do, but the picture of the HTC One X (third picture of the picture gallery) is stock Android gallery app, which is on my Rezound as we speak, and I haven't rooted my phone or installed any 3rd party ROM on it. The question is, when did the iPad came out with that UI compared to when Android implemented the same "identical" UI design for the gallery app as well?
I have a HTC Rezound and would never buy an Apple product because of it lacks so much of the features that an Android phone can do, but the picture of the HTC One X (third picture of the picture gallery) is stock Android gallery app, which is on my Rezound as we speak, and I haven't rooted my phone or installed any 3rd party ROM on it. The question is, when did the iPad came out with that UI compared to when Android implemented the same "identical" UI design for the gallery app as well?
Are you sure? HTC have their own gallery app and it looks exactly like that.
This is disappointing news. A couple individuals at my office have switched to the HTC One S, and it is a beautiful phone. My only critique is that it is almost TOO difficult to pick up from a counter because of how thin it is. Was curious to see it next to the larger HTC One X in the near future.
If any here would like to know in detail about the patent HTC is infringing here is a very good breakdown of apples win over HTC clear back in December 2011 and HTC was given till april 19 2012 to work around the issue. If they didn't its there own damned fault.
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They are held up to see if they are using this implementation. If so, back they will go.
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Originally Posted by Chris_CA
No, they are banned as long as they use the same implementation that the ITC has ruled violate Apple's patents.
They are held up to see if they are using this implementation. If so, back they will go.
In other words, they are as much banned as Schrödinger's cat is dead.
I bet the company that benefits most from this is Samsung.
Samsung should make a generous offer to settle all lawsuits with Apple, but just ask Apple to keep going after all the other Android OEMs.
Really? How do you know that? Oh, it's just you making things up.
There was a ban on HTC phones using Apple's technology. If these phones still use Apple's technology, they're banned. Permanently. If HTC really did work around the patents, then the phones can be released. But you don't have any way of knowing that.
Keep in mind that HTC said that they didn't infringe the patents originally, so their word that they worked around the patents isn't very convincing.
Why are you defending a company which can't even come up with its own technologies and has to copy them from someone else?
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Originally Posted by Scaramanga89
Stick one in with the pull down menu from iOS 5, sorry Android, will you?
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Originally Posted by sleepy3
WOW, for a second there i thought that was an iphone. THAT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE AN IPHONE. Clearly they STOLE the iphone design and just shipped a product like apple said they did.
Thanks for ignoring the point I was making, trolls.
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Originally Posted by Blastdoor
Samsung should make a generous offer to settle all lawsuits with Apple, but just ask Apple to keep going after all the other Android OEMs.
Apple wouldn't take it.
Enter strawman...
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Really? How do you know that? Oh, it's just you making things up.
The article says so. When did I ever make things up? I have repeatedly exposed you for making things up, never the opposite.
There was a ban on HTC phones using Apple's technology. If these phones still use Apple's technology, they're banned. Permanently. If HTC really did work around the patents, then the phones can be released. But you don't have any way of knowing that.
Exactly; that's why I made the reference to Schroedinger's cat before. So far the phones are held up. If HTC were stupid enough to keep the infringing code yet claim that they removed it, then they'll be banned. Which do you think is more likely?
Keep in mind that HTC said that they didn't infringe the patents originally, so their word that they worked around the patents isn't very convincing.
Why are you defending a company which can't even come up with its own technologies and has to copy them from someone else?
I was not defending HTC but arguing against a factual error. So there goes again your straw man argument.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
How did we miss this blatant infringement?
I'm not talking about the article, I'm talking about the picture on the right:
IDENTICAL to the iPad.
According to someone on MR that's a 3rd party app, not stock Android or HTC.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
According to someone on MR that's a 3rd party app, not stock Android or HTC.
Interesting, thanks for the clarification if that's the case. Though we know where they got their idea for it, at any rate. Unless it came out before the iPad. Do we know a name for it yet?
Why is the link taking them to http://www.svi.org/netday when the email's correspondence points to http://www.sci.org/netday ?
Based on that slide i'd just say "Here at HTC you can clearly see our implementation is different. We send our users directly to the link they clicked. Apple runs all the links through a backend and determines using proprietary technologies the link they think the user wants to go based on the contextual contents of the entire email so you see your honor, we aren't infringing on apples IP at all. We have no intentions of sending our users someplace we feel they want to go. We truly believe that is apples standpoint and support their sheep herding ethics".
Sorry. I couldn't help it......
................just another iSheep with a humorous side for my own demise.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Really? How do you know that? Oh, it's just you making things up.
There was a ban on HTC phones using Apple's technology. If these phones still use Apple's technology, they're banned. Permanently. If HTC really did work around the patents, then the phones can be released. But you don't have any way of knowing that.
Keep in mind that HTC said that they didn't infringe the patents originally, so their word that they worked around the patents isn't very convincing.
Why are you defending a company which can't even come up with its own technologies and has to copy them from someone else?
As you know, Apple has also done this many times in the past....
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
According to someone on MR that's a 3rd party app, not stock Android or HTC.
We are talking about the gallery picture on the 3rd phone right? Just looked at my One X and it's the HTC gallery app but saying it looks identical to the iPad app, which I also just looked at on my iPad 3 is nonsense.
This is hardly a surprise considering where the comment originally came from.
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
We are talking about the gallery picture on the 3rd phone right? Just looked at my One X and it's the HTC gallery app but saying it looks identical to the iPad app, which I also just looked at on my iPad 3 is nonsense.
This is hardly a surprise considering where the comment originally came from.
Yes, particularly when you've ignored the content of his post in your reply here.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Yes, particularly when you've ignored the content of his post in your reply here.
It was obvious to anyone who read the whole thread.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
According to someone on MR that's a 3rd party app, not stock Android or HTC.
I have a HTC Rezound and would never buy an Apple product because of it lacks so much of the features that an Android phone can do, but the picture of the HTC One X (third picture of the picture gallery) is stock Android gallery app, which is on my Rezound as we speak, and I haven't rooted my phone or installed any 3rd party ROM on it. The question is, when did the iPad came out with that UI compared to when Android implemented the same "identical" UI design for the gallery app as well?
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Originally Posted by AndroidUser
I have a HTC Rezound and would never buy an Apple product because of it lacks so much of the features that an Android phone can do, but the picture of the HTC One X (third picture of the picture gallery) is stock Android gallery app, which is on my Rezound as we speak, and I haven't rooted my phone or installed any 3rd party ROM on it. The question is, when did the iPad came out with that UI compared to when Android implemented the same "identical" UI design for the gallery app as well?
Are you sure? HTC have their own gallery app and it looks exactly like that.
The stock Android app even has a different icon.
This is the gallery app in the Nexus http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus-review-699p5.php
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
It was obvious to anyone who read the whole thread.
So anyone who read the whole thread somehow knew automatically that the photo app in question wasn't the stock HTC one?
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Originally Posted by AndroidUser
I… …would never buy an Apple product…
So why are you HERE?!
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…the picture of the HTC One X (third picture of the picture gallery) is stock Android gallery app…
Interesting. I can't find that reference to it being a third-party app on the MacRumors thread, either…
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
Are you sure? HTC have their own gallery app and it looks exactly like that.
The stock Android app even has a different icon.
This is the gallery app in the Nexus http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus-review-699p5.php
Yes I am sure. The Nexus gallery app is a stock ICS app so the HTC gallery app is Sense 3.5 to 4.0 UI.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
So why are you HERE?!
Interesting. I can't find that reference to it being a third-party app on the MacRumors thread, either…
I am here because I have the right to be here just like all of you do, to offer my input and opinions..
Where in my sentence did I say the 3rd picture is a 3rd-party app? Or did I misunderstood your sentence?
This is disappointing news. A couple individuals at my office have switched to the HTC One S, and it is a beautiful phone. My only critique is that it is almost TOO difficult to pick up from a counter because of how thin it is. Was curious to see it next to the larger HTC One X in the near future.
If any here would like to know in detail about the patent HTC is infringing here is a very good breakdown of apples win over HTC clear back in December 2011 and HTC was given till april 19 2012 to work around the issue. If they didn't its there own damned fault.
http://www.fosspatents.com/2011/12/apple-wins-itc-ruling-of-narrow.html