Apple CEO Tim Cook meeting with Samsung chief today in California

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  • Reply 21 of 34
    mj webmj web Posts: 918member

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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


     


    You have it backward.




    Android needs killed entirely. Windows Phone 7/8 needs encouraged. We need actual innovation and actual creative thought in this industry. iOS and WP7/8 provide that.



    WP8 looks like it was designed by Mondrian debilitated by Alzheimer's.

  • Reply 22 of 34
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,096member

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    Originally Posted by MJ Web View Post


    WP8 looks like it was designed by Mondrian debilitated by Alzheimer's.





    And Android looks like it was (originally) designed by Apple.  What's your point?

  • Reply 23 of 34
    mj webmj web Posts: 918member

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    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post




    And Android looks like it was (originally) designed by Apple.  What's your point?



    It's fugly!

  • Reply 24 of 34
    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member

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    Originally Posted by charlituna View Post


     


    As I understand it, the reason why is because Google didn't create every single line of code in Android. It's actually one of the flaws in the OS, that folks can add their own stuff. in particular the UI features. Google has been cleared on the trade dress type stuff because they didn't control the look of the hardware or the UI. 


     


     



    Not a flaw at all as it gives vendors freedom to put their own features on their phones.

  • Reply 25 of 34
    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member

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    Originally Posted by Apple v. Samsung View Post


    I love Samsung as a company but they don't even make it subtle sometimes.This is S-voice off of my galaxy nexus. (Leaked APK). Its actually a souped up VlingoScreenshot_2012-05-21-11-19-22.png



    What aren't they making subtle? Vlingo actually make the app.

  • Reply 26 of 34
    tyler82tyler82 Posts: 1,102member


    The samsung phone is definitely not a copy of the iPhone- the clock is on the right side instead of the middle for God's sake!

  • Reply 27 of 34


    At first I didn't quite understand why Steve Jobs was so over zealous at suing Samsung all over the world but when you really analyze the design and functionality of Samsung's smart phones and tablets it becomes overwhelmingly clear that without their unique position in having access to Apples designs Samsung products would not have their current design and one can even surmise that the success they have enjoyed would be non-existent. 

  • Reply 28 of 34
    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member

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    Originally Posted by internetworld7 View Post


    At first I didn't quite understand why Steve Jobs was so over zealous at suing Samsung all over the world but when you really analyze the design and functionality of Samsung's smart phones and tablets it becomes overwhelmingly clear that without their unique position in having access to Apples designs Samsung products would not have their current design and one can even surmise that the success they have enjoyed would be non-existent. 



    I think that is accurate for the phone pictured above but not their later phones. It's quite obvious their other models, i.e. Galaxy II, look nothing like an iPhone.

  • Reply 29 of 34

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    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post


    I'm talking about the Samsung CEO denying everything in an attempt to preserve his honor and save face. I didn't say he was honorable.



     


    That's why Tim's opening statement to the Samsung CEO was, "Here, pull my finger."


     


    Once that was over there was no more "face" to be saved.

  • Reply 30 of 34

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    Originally Posted by AjitMD View Post


    Can somebody explain why Apple has not sued Google directly?  It is the Google Android software that ultimately infringes on Apple patents.  Why beat around the bush when Apple can go for the roots?  Goog with Moto have no qualms about suing Apple on FRAN patents. It is like with fighting the Mafia... don't waste time with the nickel and dime players, go after the kingpin.   Any lawyers in the house?


    TIA.



     


    No lawyer here (thank God), but from what I remember being said early on is that since Google gives away the Android OS, Apple's case is weak there. So, Apple is left with suing those who are making money directly from using the OS. In addition, by being aggressive in their suing, Apple is making it unpredictable in estimating the profitability of using Android for one's OS. 


     


    The expected result is that Android will flounder and manufacturers will look toward an independently developed OS, such as Microsoft's WinMo8 to build around. Apple is buying time with their suits by roiling the market. Google's purchase of MotoMo is also a factor in other manufacture's confidence in using Android. Additionally, Windows will be promoting Bing search on their new mobile products and Apple is moving away from supporting Google Maps due to Google's OS competition.


     


    I cannot imagine that Google's management is all that pleased at how things have gone sideways for them due to Android's non-profitable fallout and future impact.

  • Reply 31 of 34
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member

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    Originally Posted by fredaroony View Post


    What aren't they making subtle?



    "Are you like siri?"


    "i sure like to think so"

  • Reply 32 of 34

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    Originally Posted by Apple v. Samsung View Post


    I love Samsung as a company but they don't even make it subtle sometimes.This is S-voice off of my galaxy nexus. (Leaked APK). Its actually a souped up VlingoScreenshot_2012-05-21-11-19-22.png



     


    Does it actually have the Apple WiFi and the Windows WiFi Network icons on top?


    Oh, I see it now - they just have the Apple WiFi icon there. The other one is the network strength indicator. That was a little confusing though.

  • Reply 33 of 34
    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member

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    Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post


    "Are you like siri?"


    "i sure like to think so"



    Vlingo, which is app is based on, has been around a lot longer than Siri. There was a blackberry and iPhone version in 2008 so really the question is, is Siri like Vlingo?

  • Reply 34 of 34
    macarenamacarena Posts: 365member


    The legal tide is turning slowly against Android. Over the last couple of weeks or so, there have been quite a few judgements that have gone against Android across the world, and in favor of multiple parties - not just Apple. Microsoft and Oracle have also become powerful opponents of Android.


     


    I think Samsung will be sensible to explore the option of a settlement with Apple. This might also make considerable sense from Apple's perspective as well. Considering the marketplace, it is highly doubtful if any court will ever issue a permanent injunction against Android. Most likely, even if there is a judgement favoring Apple, it will only be in the form of monetary dues for past and future infringement. It is much better for Apple to extract money from Samsung today, than to spend money fighting law suits that may or may not have an impact. Also, once Apple and Microsoft extract money from Samsung, it is highly likely that Samsung will itself look for alternatives to Android - whether it is Bada, or Windows Phone 8.


     


    It is already rumored that MS makes almost $15 per handset from Android. And if Apple can also make that kind of money, Android will no longer be a free OS. At $30-$35 per handset, it might make sense for Samsung to move to Windows Phone 8. If Samsung is OK paying MS $15 per handset, when MS has only general OS stuff, and nothing specifically significant to smartphones, they should be more than ready to pay $15-20 to Apple - considering Apple has created the Smartphone as we know it today.


     


    Any settlement will also be quite a major positive for Apple - firstly, getting $15-20 per handset from your largest competitor is a massive advantage for Apple. Secondly, Samsung will also have to pay the same amount for past handsets - and this would be a pretty substantial figure. Considering Samsung is the largest smartphone maker, I would not be surprised if the payments for past infringements alone add up to several billion dollars. At $20 per handset, just 50 million handsets will get Apple $1 Billion. And Samsung makes about 35 million handsets EACH quarter! Apple has a lot of money in the bank, but this could still be massive. And once the largest Android player signs up, odds are, the smaller players will also be forced to signup quickly.


     


    This is possibly the best way to go thermonuclear on Android. If Android starts costing the manufacturers big amounts of money, they will consider alternatives quickly.

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