Former Apple employee claims Steve Jobs would have 'lost his mind' over Siri

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  • Reply 181 of 189
    darkvaderdarkvader Posts: 1,146member
    Siri sucks.

    But the competition sucks just as much.

    I've been told I have a very clear and easy to understand voice. But no voice recognition software has EVER been able to understand me with any degree of accuracy at all. I'd LOVE to be able to use voice dictation. But I can't.

    Now I've seen some people get better results, but nothing that has ever been acceptable as a replacement for a keyboard. It's one area of computing that just seems not to have advanced much in 15 years.
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  • Reply 182 of 189
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DarkVader View Post

    Siri sucks.

    But the competition sucks just as much.

    I've been told I have a very clear and easy to understand voice. But no voice recognition software has EVER been able to understand me with any degree of accuracy at all. I'd LOVE to be able to use voice dictation. But I can't.


     


    And I can slur and drawl and even drop into my mock-Southern accent and Siri still understands me.

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  • Reply 183 of 189
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    darkvader wrote: »
    Siri sucks.
    But the competition sucks just as much.
    I've been told I have a very clear and easy to understand voice. But no voice recognition software has EVER been able to understand me with any degree of accuracy at all. I'd LOVE to be able to use voice dictation. But I can't.
    Now I've seen some people get better results, but nothing that has ever been acceptable as a replacement for a keyboard. It's one area of computing that just seems not to have advanced much in 15 years.
    It has become much better. Have you used Dragon Dictation? Siri only uses that for it's first-tier analysis from speech-to-text which is where you say your problem is but it's the best on the market. Is it perfect? Not even close and it's not likely to be for a very, very, very long time. There are simply too many variables to consider.

    What you think in your head and what other people can understand has absolutely no barring on how a computer has to interpret this analog to digital data into the proper text. Context is tough for computers which is why it will be a long time and why it needs to be used extensively to improve.

    I can get it to understand gazpacho but I do have to actually say all three syllables clearly with a very subtle pause between them inside of running them together as I would normally speak. Humans certainly understand what I means most of the time when I run the word without the implicate glottal stops but we don't process data the same way as computers.

    Perhaps we need to meet our machines part way if we want to benefit from using them. At one point in my life I was certainly faster at writing with a pen than with typing but I knew if I stuck with it and didn't pick up any bad habits, like looking at the keyboard, I'd soon be more efficient than before. Surely it can't be easy to change the way you've been speaking all your life but does that mean you shouldn't if there is a direct benefit from it?
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  • Reply 184 of 189
    myapplelovemyapplelove Posts: 1,515member


    Dick, I knew I wasn't going to convince you. Having said that apple hasn't bee at all responsive for fixing safari memory leaks, and by Autoshutdown I meant apple's feature of terminating an app if the nanny os considers its not used, just to get back to you on a couple of things. Once I get dictation with the new iPad (just waiting it out o get better chances for a non yellow screen) I ll reply with lengthier posts cause at the moment I am too tired from work to go point by point on what you said typing. 

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  • Reply 185 of 189
    geoadmgeoadm Posts: 81member


    Its funny how Apple can release Siri as beta and its still BY FAR MASSIVELY better than any competition and all that happens is law suits and complaints. People chose not to get the refund but to go to court, problems turn to !$ whenever Apple is involved

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  • Reply 186 of 189
    timpdxtimpdx Posts: 1member


    Isn't it great when people make stuff up in a failed attempt to be funny and get the facts totally wrong?


     


    Siri is a Norwegian name. It means "beautiful victorious counselor". One of the creators of Siri named his company that because he was going to name his daughter Siri until his daughter turned out to be a son. In 2011, the application Siri was removed from the App Store, their servers went down, and then Apple announced it was redesigned as an integrated feature of iOS 5 for the iPhone 4S. (Eventually, more iPhones too)


     


    The biggest thing to point out is that with iOS 5, Siri is a beta. It is expected to be out of beta for iOS 6, but that won't be known until the developer beta comes around on June 11.


     


    What I always say to people who attack things in technology... if you think it is so terrible, why don't you go and make a better version?

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  • Reply 187 of 189
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,954member
    timpdx wrote: »
    What I always say to people who attack things in technology... if you think it is so terrible, why don't you go and make a better version?

    I think that's a bad argument. Because a person is unsatisfied with the quality of an industry's work doesn't mean the dissatisfied person should become part of said industry to fix its problem.

    For example, I would have no problem demanding that someone be good at what they say they can do without myself having to be good at what they do. There is no hypocrisy on that situation. Just take movie making for example, most people aren't any good at making a movie, but it's easy to spot a bad one without having to be a top-notch producer or director to legitimately say that. Anything short of that may as well be "emperor's new clothes" because then almost nobody would have standing to say it's not up to par.

    And yes, it is a beta product, but Apple doesn't say that at all in its TV ads. I think it's inappropriate to make a beta feature your headline act.
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  • Reply 188 of 189


    Isn't it funny how people who clain to support apple are all around an blog intended to asses the failure of apple's products? Are you people trying to re-think about all the money you are spendin on some betas? betas are suposed to be free,,, but they charge like they are the final version...


    Linux Ubuntu and Windows 7 are both great OS... any of them is better than apples MacOS... Why? they have had the need of being better,,, apple has loosen up a lot... as they dont feel the need of really improoving... That's normal,,, you people know nothing better than MacOS... apples intend is to make you uncapable of going out an try for yourselves... Go out and try, if money isn't the issue,,, do as I did and buy three computers and load one of each OS on them, and buy one of each phone OS. You will find the true by yourselves... 

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  • Reply 189 of 189


    lol

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