finally!... we had chrome beta and now full on our test Android tablets at work - and it is amazing... Finally dropping Safari will be great (how it does not have a unified search window is mind bending) Chrome left Safari in the dust on Desktops will be interesting to see what it does on iPad. The not being able to be set as default is just another idiotic artificial limitation of iOS
Well, at least Google is fairly transparent in trying to monetize web searches on the mobile platform. Don't see Internet Explorer doing the same thing yet. Wonder if Facebook is making their own browser to try to garner some mobile-ad dollars? Please just stay AWAY from my browsing history, and quit plastering and pestering me with ads that are "tailored" to my every whim - my whim is NOT having a single ad on ANY device I use, unless I start a search myself.
Agreed. Even Safari, and even in "stealth" or secret mode or whatever they call it, saves entirely too much of my history and personal data for me. I would pay a lot of money for a browser that truly saves nothing, remembers nothing, and blocks all the third party cookies etc. I get so tired of constantly cleaning my information out of the web browsers on all the platforms I use.
I'm an adult. I'm capable of remembering all my passwords and typing the URL of places I want to go.
Also, I'd like to see someone review Chrome *without* logging in.
Absolutely none of Google's crap works anymore until you log in, preferences aren't saved, etc.
I've used it for about 20 minutes now and so far so good! I am psyched! The load times are fast but probably not quite as fast as Safari on my ipad2. I'm really happy about being able to pick up where i left off from one device to the next. I do have one gripe though, the bookmarks section is not ideal. They need to make it exactly like the desktop browser. Sure I'll get used to it, but Safari shows bookmarks at the search bar, why not Chrome?
Edit: ok had a cookies hiccup had to reopen page. Also, this is a Desktop Chrome request too, if they had a "Reader" like feature it would be much better.
Agreed. Even Safari, and even in "stealth" or secret mode or whatever they call it, saves entirely too much of my history and personal data for me. I would pay a lot of money for a browser that truly saves nothing, remembers nothing, and blocks all the third party cookies etc. I get so tired of constantly cleaning my information out of the web browsers on all the platforms I use.
I'm an adult. I'm capable of remembering all my passwords and typing the URL of places I want to go.
Also, I'd like to see someone review Chrome *without* logging in.
Absolutely none of Google's crap works anymore until you log in, preferences aren't saved, etc.
total BS, but at least it's transparent now.
Build a PC with only an optical drive and no hard drive.
Boot into a "Live" linux distribution from CD/DVD.
It's only a browser people and an optional one at that - it's not life or death. I'm an Apple guy and like the iOS Chrome. The tabbing is soo much better than mobile Safari and cool how if you push-in from the sides it lets you push from tab to tab. If Apple put this tabbing into Safari it'll be a lot better. And what do I care if Google knows I'm looking at AppleInsider or ESPN or any other generic site. Guess you Privacy people never use Google for search, Gmail, or never used Google maps on your phone or computer cuz Google will know where your going (goodness not that!)?! I like it, some of you act like Steve Jobs personally christened your first born and you can never use anything without an apple logo on it. Firefox and Chrome are the only desktop browsers I use. Ghost.
And Safari is essentially KDE's Konquerer with Apple modifications.
You need to read an updated history book, as actually the reverse is true. Sure Safari started out being developed in 1998 using KDE's KHTML as a starting point. Apple and KDE, however, parted ways for a while because Apple's rapid development and lack of documentation was too much for the KDE developers to deal with.
Webkit, which serves as the foundation for many browsers including Chrome and Safari, was designed from the ground up independently of KDE. In fact, KDE ditched KHTML and now has adopted Apple's Webkit.
Privacy polices are created by lawyers to cover a company's butt, so it is no wonder the polices are similar. However, the polices do not dictate how the companies act. Look at how Google recently got in trouble for bypassing Safari's default privacy settings so it could give your information to advertisers. Moreover, ask yourself who each company's customers are. With Apple you are the customer. With Google you are the product. Moreover, this is purely subjective, but I have had two gmail accounts hacked, and both my mobile me and me emails have never been hacked.
Originally Posted by antkm1
To quote my own post...
It kills me how all you think browsing with safari makes your "private data" so much safer. Try reading Apple's privacy policy sometime.
Its extremely unlikely that apple would ever allow users to change the default browser on mobile.
That's one of the reasons I jumped ship from iOS a while ago. I got tired of a manufacturer thinking they have the right to tell me how I can use my device. It's a real shame that users can't make choices for themselves (and look at the hoops they're making Sparrow jump through).
I still have some iOS devices for testing, but there's no way I could go back.
Chrome for Android also supports WebKit remote debugging (https://developers.google.com/chrome/mobile/docs/debugging), which is extremely useful. I'm looking forward to Mobile Safari (finally) getting this feature in iOS 6 (hell, even RIM beat them to it -- the Playbook had the first WebKit browser w/ remote debug).
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finally!... we had chrome beta and now full on our test Android tablets at work - and it is amazing... Finally dropping Safari will be great (how it does not have a unified search window is mind bending) Chrome left Safari in the dust on Desktops will be interesting to see what it does on iPad. The not being able to be set as default is just another idiotic artificial limitation of iOS
What a perfectly reasonable and educated response¡ ????
That would be great! I assume at some point they'll end up offering it but I hope it's sooner rather than later.
So far speech recognition isn't working for me...
EDIT: I "spoke too soon"... It works!
SECOND EDIT: And it works well!
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Originally Posted by Bagman
Well, at least Google is fairly transparent in trying to monetize web searches on the mobile platform. Don't see Internet Explorer doing the same thing yet. Wonder if Facebook is making their own browser to try to garner some mobile-ad dollars? Please just stay AWAY from my browsing history, and quit plastering and pestering me with ads that are "tailored" to my every whim - my whim is NOT having a single ad on ANY device I use, unless I start a search myself.
Agreed. Even Safari, and even in "stealth" or secret mode or whatever they call it, saves entirely too much of my history and personal data for me. I would pay a lot of money for a browser that truly saves nothing, remembers nothing, and blocks all the third party cookies etc. I get so tired of constantly cleaning my information out of the web browsers on all the platforms I use.
I'm an adult. I'm capable of remembering all my passwords and typing the URL of places I want to go.
Also, I'd like to see someone review Chrome *without* logging in.
Absolutely none of Google's crap works anymore until you log in, preferences aren't saved, etc.
total BS, but at least it's transparent now.
Edit: ok had a cookies hiccup had to reopen page. Also, this is a Desktop Chrome request too, if they had a "Reader" like feature it would be much better.
Perhaps it's a little too popular right now ?
Now, if I could just make it my default browser without jailbreaking.
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Originally Posted by dagamer34
Unfortunately, it's slower than Safari because 3rd party apps aren't allowed to use the Nitro JIT engine which speeds up Javascript. =/
Chrome essentially is Safari with Google modifications.
It's an older version of Safari with proprietary Google crap tacked on, plus the ability to monitor absolutely everything you do.
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Originally Posted by MacVertigo
I think it works great. Voice recognition is cool.. I have a 4 so no Siri. It's nice to speak to search!
Apple needs these kind of features in safari.
Voice search has been in the Google App for years, it's also in the Bing App.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Agreed. Even Safari, and even in "stealth" or secret mode or whatever they call it, saves entirely too much of my history and personal data for me. I would pay a lot of money for a browser that truly saves nothing, remembers nothing, and blocks all the third party cookies etc. I get so tired of constantly cleaning my information out of the web browsers on all the platforms I use.
I'm an adult. I'm capable of remembering all my passwords and typing the URL of places I want to go.
Also, I'd like to see someone review Chrome *without* logging in.
Absolutely none of Google's crap works anymore until you log in, preferences aren't saved, etc.
total BS, but at least it's transparent now.
Build a PC with only an optical drive and no hard drive.
Boot into a "Live" linux distribution from CD/DVD.
Nothing is saved, ever.
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Originally Posted by hill60
Chrome essentially is Safari with Google modifications.
And Safari is essentially KDE's Konquerer with Apple modifications.
To quote my own post...
It kills me how all you think browsing with safari makes your "private data" so much safer. Try reading Apple's privacy policy sometime.
[=www.apple.com/privacy/][/]
[=http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/][/]
Wording is different but say very similar things.
And to quote another post...
No thanks. I am happily Google free. I will not even give Google the satisfaction of me downloading it.
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Originally Posted by MarquisMark
And Safari is essentially KDE's Konquerer with Apple modifications.
You need to read an updated history book, as actually the reverse is true. Sure Safari started out being developed in 1998 using KDE's KHTML as a starting point. Apple and KDE, however, parted ways for a while because Apple's rapid development and lack of documentation was too much for the KDE developers to deal with.
Webkit, which serves as the foundation for many browsers including Chrome and Safari, was designed from the ground up independently of KDE. In fact, KDE ditched KHTML and now has adopted Apple's Webkit.
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Privacy polices are created by lawyers to cover a company's butt, so it is no wonder the polices are similar. However, the polices do not dictate how the companies act. Look at how Google recently got in trouble for bypassing Safari's default privacy settings so it could give your information to advertisers. Moreover, ask yourself who each company's customers are. With Apple you are the customer. With Google you are the product. Moreover, this is purely subjective, but I have had two gmail accounts hacked, and both my mobile me and me emails have never been hacked.
Originally Posted by antkm1
To quote my own post...
It kills me how all you think browsing with safari makes your "private data" so much safer. Try reading Apple's privacy policy sometime.
[=www.apple.com/privacy/][/]
[=http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/][/]
Wording is different but say very similar things.
And to quote another post...
That's one of the reasons I jumped ship from iOS a while ago. I got tired of a manufacturer thinking they have the right to tell me how I can use my device. It's a real shame that users can't make choices for themselves (and look at the hoops they're making Sparrow jump through).
I still have some iOS devices for testing, but there's no way I could go back.
What do you mean by older? Are you comparing WebKit version numbers?
Chrome is more standards compliant, especially on mobile. Look at http://mobilehtml5.org/ or the Sencha reviews (http://www.sencha.com/blog/html5-scorecard-chrome-mobile-beta/ and http://www.sencha.com/blog/html5-scorecard-the-new-ipad-and-ios-5-1/). It looks like iOS 6 will improve this when it ships in a few months, but I prefer Chrome's more timely updates (at least on non-iOS platforms).
Max Firtman did a nice write-up of the standards-compliance differences between Chrome for Android and Chrome for iOS: http://www.mobilexweb.com/blog/chrome-ios-android-4-1-jelly-bean-html5. Looks like users lose a lot (indexeddb, file upload, better timing, etc). Although Chrome for iOS will enjoy significantly faster CSS than Chrome for Android: http://spaceport.io/community/perfmarks
Chrome for Android also supports WebKit remote debugging (https://developers.google.com/chrome/mobile/docs/debugging), which is extremely useful. I'm looking forward to Mobile Safari (finally) getting this feature in iOS 6 (hell, even RIM beat them to it -- the Playbook had the first WebKit browser w/ remote debug).
Sure, give more personal information to Google. Why Not.