As much as this suit may seem somewhat frivolous, one still has to wonder who is doing Apple's trademark searching for them before they decide on a product's name. A little due diligence would side-step most of these kinds of claims.
Fair go all, what's with the Chinese bashing!? Apple is the first company to jump on anyone that that uses a similar symbol to its own, or even similar wording. All companies must defend their trademarks or risk having them diluted or losing them. Jiangsu is asking a pittance which shows it is not really interested in the money, just in defending its trademark.
Nope I feel that little China Co is simply doing it for advertising value and even get paid a bit for it's advertising.
No, no. I'm waiting for trolls to post about how Apple is in the wrong on this one. How Apple is evil for trying to steal the name "Snow Leopard" in China without paying up for it. C'mon, you know they'll find a way to spin it into "Apple is wrong." Just give it some time...
I don't think Apple should pay. The reason is this. It's not a company that is in any form of competition on any level whatsoever. Do you know how many companies there out there with the name of AAA? There are ball bearings used for skate boards called Ninja, Motorcycles named Ninja, Ninja kitchen products, etc. I don't see these guys suing each other. It's just one company that no one has ever really heard of outside their particular market trying to get more visibility off of the fame of Apple. I mean come on. Enough. One is a product name version for a computer Operating System and the other one is a partial name of a company that is in the chemical industry.
Apple is eventually going to shelf Snow Leopard as a product they sell when Mountain Lion hits the shelves because they typically only sell two versions at a time to my knowledge since the machines get outdated.
The people that would confuse what they are selling with an OS made for exclusive hardware..... are not Apple's market. I think it's called satire. If there's a thing in nature called a snow leopard, those guys are screwed. It's prior art whether you are from Adam or chimp.
As much as this suit may seem somewhat frivolous, one still has to wonder who is doing Apple's trademark searching for them before they decide on a product's name. A little due diligence would side-step most of these kinds of claims.
The iPad case was just a mess. No amount of searching would have changed that. This one... You may be right, then again, Marks are usually only granted in one language or specified languages. There is nothing nothing to indicate this case is at all valid.
Fair go all, what's with the Chinese bashing!? Apple is the first company to jump on anyone that that uses a similar symbol to its own, or even similar wording. All companies must defend their trademarks or risk having them diluted or losing them. Jiangsu is asking a pittance which shows it is not really interested in the money, just in defending its trademark. Now, Apple will probably fight it as they too want to defend the Snow Leopard name but some sort of small settle will probably be made, maybe allowing both companies to use the name.
They only do it if it something is directly in competition from what I've seen. But Mac Tools wasn't suing Apple for the Mac, because they are not SIMILAR of a product and are not in direct competition. The only reason why they had the Apple Music Corp lawsuit is because of iTunes and they didn't want to have confusion, plus they had an agreement.
The iPAD and the iPad lawsuit was because of the actual name and they were both computer related products.
Im from Australia I have no idea what that is never heard of it & we don't have it as far as i know. funny must not be your field, remember what i said about explaining jokes thats cool, wont judge, lets stick with apple products & how we all love them & how we hate everyone else that likes stuff that we dont
On a side note, i have friends on facebook, massive android fans, popular opionion amunst those guys seems to be that apple is a massive patent troll & dont like competition :S
Dude, funny is funny does, and using a Japanese language joke on the Chinese just ISN'T funny. It's like trying to imitate an American by using an English accent. It just doesn't match.
The people that would confuse what they are selling with an OS made for exclusive hardware..... are not Apple's market. I think it's called satire. If there's a thing in nature called a snow leopard, those guys are screwed. It's prior art whether you are from Adam or chimp.
There is former art called "an apple" in nature. It was his point
I don't think Apple should pay. The reason is this. It's not a company that is in any form of competition on any level whatsoever. Do you know how many companies there out there with the name of AAA? There are ball bearings used for skate boards called Ninja, Motorcycles named Ninja, Ninja kitchen products, etc. I don't see these guys suing each other. It's just one company that no one has ever really heard of outside their particular market trying to get more visibility off of the fame of Apple. I mean come on. Enough. One is a product name version for a computer Operating System and the other one is a partial name of a company that is in the chemical industry.
Apple is eventually going to shelf Snow Leopard as a product they sell when Mountain Lion hits the shelves because they typically only sell two versions at a time to my knowledge since the machines get outdated.
Yes, it's a frivolous and ridiculous suit. However, as "A Grain Of Salt" pointed out, Apple themselves have filed that kind of ridiculous suit already, so... lawyers, rejoyce.
God, what a bunch of opportunistic slime bags. So can the west start "suing' these Chinese companies for benefitting from western chemistry, electricity, mass production equipment, you-name-it, which allowed them to even know how chemicals work in the first place, let alone be able to manufacture them?
Apple, take these idiots to court and run them into total bankruptcy, please. This has to stop now.
Fair go all, what's with the Chinese bashing!? Apple is the first company to jump on anyone that that uses a similar symbol to its own, or even similar wording. All companies must defend their trademarks or risk having them diluted or losing them. Jiangsu is asking a pittance which shows it is not really interested in the money, just in defending its trademark.
Uh, have you been paying attention at all to the death of a thousand cuts the Chinese have been dishing out to western and Japanese companies the last 20 years via patent infringement, intellectual property theft, pirated goods, etc. on a scale unprecedented in modern history? Equally appalling are the western 'globalization' apologists who are quite happy to close down their factories in North America and Europe to follow the labor to where it's cheapest. Ironically, 'Communist' China seems to not uphold labor standards and effectively bans labor unions.
'Why innovate when you can steal' must surely be the unwritten motto of the CPC and many Chinese businesses in general. Personally I think all western companies/nations should form a NATO-type alliance to prevent them from playing one western company/country off the other. Now.
Apple MUST simply refuse to pay once now, or many times down the road, rather than give in to this 'price of admission for doing business in China' nonsense (they still need us much more than we need them). If 80K is such a pittance and the 'honorable' businessmen in question are simply defending 'their' trademark, why not just ask Apple for a dollar? Face it pal, 80K can buy a lot of chop-sticks.
The thing that gets me about these Chinese trademark claims is there insistence on a letter of apology. Really? Is that going to make things peachy? Maybe if Apple uses pretty stationary and includes some flowers....
The thing that gets me about these Chinese trademark claims is there insistence on a letter of apology. Really? Is that going to make things peachy? Maybe if Apple uses pretty stationary and includes some flowers....
Some of you guys are complete morons. Google suggests that the population of China is over 1.3 billion. Remarks about China and copying most likely apply to a very small percentage of these individuals. Companies that manufacture there accept the good and bad aspects of doing so. The US provides them with a stable banking system. China provides extremely large quantities of cheap labor. This is factored against the cost of doing business there which would include any issues with government stability, costs involving PR concerns such as child labor, lawsuits, etc. It's just an issue of benefits and risks. This would be the case with any country chosen as a primary base for manufacturing.
I'm not including the Proview issue in this statement. That relates to worldwide trademark negotiation and "seller's remorse". The owner was not Chinese. Anyway I'm tired of the Chinese bashing. If the concerns outweighed the benefits, companies would have moved on.
Stupid Chinese and their corrupted communist government. Never deal with the communist.
We, non-communist Vietnamese, always say, "Never believe what a communist says; carefully observe a communist's action.
Apparently, they listen to us because their observe their own corrupted actions. When Apple gave in, they pile on another stupid frivolous lawsuit. This is why I despise communism and would never ever do business with such a corrupted entity.
If you really think that the Chinese are communist, you don't understand a thing in our world.
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As much as this suit may seem somewhat frivolous, one still has to wonder who is doing Apple's trademark searching for them before they decide on a product's name. A little due diligence would side-step most of these kinds of claims.
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Originally Posted by A Grain of Salt
Fair go all, what's with the Chinese bashing!? Apple is the first company to jump on anyone that that uses a similar symbol to its own, or even similar wording. All companies must defend their trademarks or risk having them diluted or losing them. Jiangsu is asking a pittance which shows it is not really interested in the money, just in defending its trademark.
Nope I feel that little China Co is simply doing it for advertising value and even get paid a bit for it's advertising.
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
No, no. I'm waiting for trolls to post about how Apple is in the wrong on this one. How Apple is evil for trying to steal the name "Snow Leopard" in China without paying up for it. C'mon, you know they'll find a way to spin it into "Apple is wrong." Just give it some time...
I don't think Apple should pay. The reason is this. It's not a company that is in any form of competition on any level whatsoever. Do you know how many companies there out there with the name of AAA? There are ball bearings used for skate boards called Ninja, Motorcycles named Ninja, Ninja kitchen products, etc. I don't see these guys suing each other. It's just one company that no one has ever really heard of outside their particular market trying to get more visibility off of the fame of Apple. I mean come on. Enough. One is a product name version for a computer Operating System and the other one is a partial name of a company that is in the chemical industry.
Apple is eventually going to shelf Snow Leopard as a product they sell when Mountain Lion hits the shelves because they typically only sell two versions at a time to my knowledge since the machines get outdated.
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Originally Posted by macinthe408
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This is a Trademark not a patent...
The iPad case was just a mess. No amount of searching would have changed that. This one... You may be right, then again, Marks are usually only granted in one language or specified languages. There is nothing nothing to indicate this case is at all valid.
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Originally Posted by A Grain of Salt
Fair go all, what's with the Chinese bashing!? Apple is the first company to jump on anyone that that uses a similar symbol to its own, or even similar wording. All companies must defend their trademarks or risk having them diluted or losing them. Jiangsu is asking a pittance which shows it is not really interested in the money, just in defending its trademark. Now, Apple will probably fight it as they too want to defend the Snow Leopard name but some sort of small settle will probably be made, maybe allowing both companies to use the name.
Food for thought (pun intended)
http://www.brandchannel.com/home/post/2009/10/06/Apple-Of-Their-i-Apple-Sues-Aussie-Woolworths-Over-Trademark.aspx
They only do it if it something is directly in competition from what I've seen. But Mac Tools wasn't suing Apple for the Mac, because they are not SIMILAR of a product and are not in direct competition. The only reason why they had the Apple Music Corp lawsuit is because of iTunes and they didn't want to have confusion, plus they had an agreement.
The iPAD and the iPad lawsuit was because of the actual name and they were both computer related products.
Im from Australia
I have no idea what that is 
never heard of it & we don't have it as far as i know. funny must not be your field, remember what i said about explaining jokes 
thats cool, wont judge, lets stick with apple products & how we all love them & how we hate everyone else that likes stuff that we dont 
On a side note, i have friends on facebook, massive android fans, popular opionion amunst those guys seems to be that apple is a massive patent troll & dont like competition :S
Dude, funny is funny does, and using a Japanese language joke on the Chinese just ISN'T funny. It's like trying to imitate an American by using an English accent. It just doesn't match.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChristophB
The people that would confuse what they are selling with an OS made for exclusive hardware..... are not Apple's market. I think it's called satire. If there's a thing in nature called a snow leopard, those guys are screwed. It's prior art whether you are from Adam or chimp.
There is former art called "an apple" in nature. It was his point
the sharks have tasted blood !
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Originally Posted by drblank
I don't think Apple should pay. The reason is this. It's not a company that is in any form of competition on any level whatsoever. Do you know how many companies there out there with the name of AAA? There are ball bearings used for skate boards called Ninja, Motorcycles named Ninja, Ninja kitchen products, etc. I don't see these guys suing each other. It's just one company that no one has ever really heard of outside their particular market trying to get more visibility off of the fame of Apple. I mean come on. Enough. One is a product name version for a computer Operating System and the other one is a partial name of a company that is in the chemical industry.
Apple is eventually going to shelf Snow Leopard as a product they sell when Mountain Lion hits the shelves because they typically only sell two versions at a time to my knowledge since the machines get outdated.
Yes, it's a frivolous and ridiculous suit. However, as "A Grain Of Salt" pointed out, Apple themselves have filed that kind of ridiculous suit already, so... lawyers, rejoyce.
God, what a bunch of opportunistic slime bags. So can the west start "suing' these Chinese companies for benefitting from western chemistry, electricity, mass production equipment, you-name-it, which allowed them to even know how chemicals work in the first place, let alone be able to manufacture them?
Apple, take these idiots to court and run them into total bankruptcy, please. This has to stop now.
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Originally Posted by A Grain of Salt
Fair go all, what's with the Chinese bashing!? Apple is the first company to jump on anyone that that uses a similar symbol to its own, or even similar wording. All companies must defend their trademarks or risk having them diluted or losing them. Jiangsu is asking a pittance which shows it is not really interested in the money, just in defending its trademark.
Uh, have you been paying attention at all to the death of a thousand cuts the Chinese have been dishing out to western and Japanese companies the last 20 years via patent infringement, intellectual property theft, pirated goods, etc. on a scale unprecedented in modern history? Equally appalling are the western 'globalization' apologists who are quite happy to close down their factories in North America and Europe to follow the labor to where it's cheapest. Ironically, 'Communist' China seems to not uphold labor standards and effectively bans labor unions.
'Why innovate when you can steal' must surely be the unwritten motto of the CPC and many Chinese businesses in general. Personally I think all western companies/nations should form a NATO-type alliance to prevent them from playing one western company/country off the other. Now.
Apple MUST simply refuse to pay once now, or many times down the road, rather than give in to this 'price of admission for doing business in China' nonsense (they still need us much more than we need them). If 80K is such a pittance and the 'honorable' businessmen in question are simply defending 'their' trademark, why not just ask Apple for a dollar? Face it pal, 80K can buy a lot of chop-sticks.
The thing that gets me about these Chinese trademark claims is there insistence on a letter of apology. Really? Is that going to make things peachy? Maybe if Apple uses pretty stationary and includes some flowers....
The thing that gets me about these Chinese trademark claims is there insistence on a letter of apology. Really? Is that going to make things peachy? Maybe if Apple uses pretty stationary and includes some flowers....
Some of you guys are complete morons. Google suggests that the population of China is over 1.3 billion. Remarks about China and copying most likely apply to a very small percentage of these individuals. Companies that manufacture there accept the good and bad aspects of doing so. The US provides them with a stable banking system. China provides extremely large quantities of cheap labor. This is factored against the cost of doing business there which would include any issues with government stability, costs involving PR concerns such as child labor, lawsuits, etc. It's just an issue of benefits and risks. This would be the case with any country chosen as a primary base for manufacturing.
I'm not including the Proview issue in this statement. That relates to worldwide trademark negotiation and "seller's remorse". The owner was not Chinese. Anyway I'm tired of the Chinese bashing. If the concerns outweighed the benefits, companies would have moved on.
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Originally Posted by drblank
Nothing personal, but can you post in English? Please. Thank you.
Copy it and then paste it into translate.google.com
If you really think that the Chinese are communist, you don't understand a thing in our world.
Just saying, but,