I'm gonna need an actual rebuttal if you want me to continue responding. Apple has 60% of the tablet market (shipped) and something like 90% of the tablet market (used). Anything else is a niche, regardless of the number of units. Percentages show what units cannot.
fAndroids equate the size of their smartphones with the hoped-for size of their genitals. Good for them. I'm fairly certain they'll be eventually carrying around 7" smartphones while pointing at the iPhone, claiming it is too under-sized for a real man to carry.
You guys operate your iPhones with one hand? Gee I could hardly operate my iPod touch with two hands so I gave up on it. It's way, way too small!
And, FYI, my Nook Color 7" tablet will fit in my front pants pocket pretty easily, though I usually remove it when I sit down. An 8" iPad...probably not.
And no, I'm not a woman or child, but keep in mind there are a whole lot of women and children in the world.
You guys operate your iPhones with one hand? Gee I could hardly operate my iPod touch with two hands so I gave up on it. It's way, way too small!
And, FYI, my Nook Color 7" tablet will fit in my front pants pocket pretty easily, though I usually remove it when I sit down. An 8" iPad...probably not.
And no, I'm not a woman or child, but keep in mind there are a whole lot of women and children in the world.
Try putting your Nook Color in your front jeans pocket.
Try putting your Nook Color in your front jeans pocket.
Backpocket? Sure, I've done it and others have said the same. Front pocket? I'm not going to be the one to say it won't work as I haven't tried (and can't as it's elsewhere for a few days), but I don't see a logical reason to store it there. Sounds like an invitation for damage even if it's possible.
Try putting your Nook Color in your front jeans pocket.
Many of us don't wear jeans, especially in the summer. The shorts and pants I wear have deep front pockets, and while it's not so comfortable sitting down with my Nook Color in there, it can be done. Walking around is no problem at all.
My Galaxy Player 5.0 will fit comfortably in any pocket, as would a Galaxy Note phone, which was the topic of this thread.
To an astute person with any form of comprehension my figures would seem reasonable.
As compared to 37 million iPhones sold in the first quarter of 2012. Any reasonably astute person can comprehend that while nice numbers, the Note is still a Niche market. Even factoring in Samsungs 45 million shipped smart phones in the second quarter the Note likely isn't even Samsung's best moving phone. By all accounts they are likely surprised that it has moved 5 million.
Samsung shipped 2 Million tablets, of which they have a few in that HOT 7" inch category.
Again, Samsung is making products based soley on the Goldielocks principle and this traditionally is not Apple's approach.
Eventually phone sizes will settle down and stop being a selling point. Apple, I'm sure will let other manufacturers waste time finding the sweet spots.
Many of us don't wear jeans, especially in the summer. The shorts and pants I wear have deep front pockets, and while it's not so comfortable sitting down with my Nook Color in there, it can be done. Walking around is no problem at all.
My Galaxy Player 5.0 will fit comfortably in any pocket, as would a Galaxy Note phone, which was the topic of this thread.
To each their own.
And in the winter when you can't wear your cargo shorts? When you have to think about what pants to wear in order to take your 7" tablet with you, you have lost the argument. Many, many people do wear jeans.
Me thinks there will be a few people who will go into an apoplectic fit if Apple introduces a 7" tablet.
LOL why would anyone be upset over it? That is just a ridiculous comment and assumption.
I know I see little reason or justification that I would buy one. But I will laugh at those who are hoping for it because they think they will slip it into their front pant pocket because it is so world changingly portable.
As compared to 37 million iPhones sold in the first quarter of 2012. Any reasonably astute person can comprehend that while nice numbers, the Note is still a Niche market. Even factoring in Samsungs 45 million shipped smart phones in the second quarter the Note likely isn't even Samsung's best moving phone. By all accounts they are likely surprised that it has moved 5 million.
7 million units un under a year with less than 6 months n the US market for a single product that costs around $550 has to be one of the highest selling and fastest selling CEs on the market. Even if it was a product I understood I'd still be impressed by those numbers.
As compared to 37 million iPhones sold in the first quarter of 2012. . .
Eventually phone sizes will settle down and stop being a selling point. Apple, I'm sure will let other manufacturers waste time finding the sweet spots.
I'm surprised that you might think they didn't already find the sweet spot with no need to change or add any other size. I mean 37 million iPhones sold. . .
The only other one I remember is that holding the iPhone with one hand, while poking at it with a single extended index finger from the other (especially if you have to look over your spectacles to do so), is considered to make you similarly "geezerish."
Huh. I type like that often, faster and less mistakes than typing with the thumb of holding hand.
Geez... I'm getting old.
But I don't admit "over the specs" look... yet :-)
7 million units un under a year with less than 6 months n the US market for a single product that costs around $550 has to be one of the highest selling and fastest selling CEs on the market. Even if it was a product I understood I'd still be impressed by those numbers.
They are nice numbers but they are numbers that are "shipped", not sold. I have yet to actually see one "in the wild". By contrast I have seen more Fisker Karmas, which cost $90,000, the last few weeks than I have ever seen a Galaxy Note. The numbers bear out and anecdotal experience says this is a "niche" product.
Again, niche products can be successful but it isn't a mainstream success or even a household name.
Can we agree on that?
And besides my only reason for discussing the Galaxy Note is that I believe it to be probably the best compromise between a Tablet and a phone. I believe it's form factor is about as big as you can get and still offer true portability without the need for a second device. And as good as it is, it is still crazy huge for a phone. But, I believe people don't use their phones a phones as much anymore. But I'd find my "RunKeeper" app to be pretty prohibitive with a Galaxy Note.
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I'm gonna need an actual rebuttal if you want me to continue responding. Apple has 60% of the tablet market (shipped) and something like 90% of the tablet market (used). Anything else is a niche, regardless of the number of units. Percentages show what units cannot.
fAndroids equate the size of their smartphones with the hoped-for size of their genitals. Good for them. I'm fairly certain they'll be eventually carrying around 7" smartphones while pointing at the iPhone, claiming it is too under-sized for a real man to carry.
You guys operate your iPhones with one hand? Gee I could hardly operate my iPod touch with two hands so I gave up on it. It's way, way too small!
And, FYI, my Nook Color 7" tablet will fit in my front pants pocket pretty easily, though I usually remove it when I sit down. An 8" iPad...probably not.
And no, I'm not a woman or child, but keep in mind there are a whole lot of women and children in the world.
Try putting your Nook Color in your front jeans pocket.
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Originally Posted by bmason1270
Try putting your Nook Color in your front jeans pocket.
Backpocket? Sure, I've done it and others have said the same. Front pocket? I'm not going to be the one to say it won't work as I haven't tried (and can't as it's elsewhere for a few days), but I don't see a logical reason to store it there. Sounds like an invitation for damage even if it's possible.
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Originally Posted by bmason1270
7-10 million Notes or 5 million? Which is it. You are swinging between 5 million total possible sales here. And you say I'm "all over the map"!
5 Million was as of last March. 7-10 is an estimate.
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Originally Posted by bmason1270
Try putting your Nook Color in your front jeans pocket.
Many of us don't wear jeans, especially in the summer. The shorts and pants I wear have deep front pockets, and while it's not so comfortable sitting down with my Nook Color in there, it can be done. Walking around is no problem at all.
My Galaxy Player 5.0 will fit comfortably in any pocket, as would a Galaxy Note phone, which was the topic of this thread.
To each their own.
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Originally Posted by Technarchy
The Note is probably the most obnoxious phone I have ever had the misfortune of holding. And now it will be even bigger... Yay?
I personally think it's a great alternative to those tourists in NYC walking around with iPads taking photos - which I find the most obnoxious.
This is exactly what I want.. I'm going to skip Samsung's new Galaxy S3 and Apple's iPhone 5 and go straight to the Note 2.
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Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26
5 Million was as of last March. 7-10 is an estimate.
Exactly.
Thank you.
To an astute person with any form of comprehension my figures would seem reasonable.
As compared to 37 million iPhones sold in the first quarter of 2012. Any reasonably astute person can comprehend that while nice numbers, the Note is still a Niche market. Even factoring in Samsungs 45 million shipped smart phones in the second quarter the Note likely isn't even Samsung's best moving phone. By all accounts they are likely surprised that it has moved 5 million.
Samsung shipped 2 Million tablets, of which they have a few in that HOT 7" inch category.
Again, Samsung is making products based soley on the Goldielocks principle and this traditionally is not Apple's approach.
Eventually phone sizes will settle down and stop being a selling point. Apple, I'm sure will let other manufacturers waste time finding the sweet spots.
And in the winter when you can't wear your cargo shorts? When you have to think about what pants to wear in order to take your 7" tablet with you, you have lost the argument. Many, many people do wear jeans.
Me thinks there will be a few people who will go into an apoplectic fit if Apple introduces a 7" tablet.
No, but I have a GIF lined up for just such an occasion.
LOL why would anyone be upset over it? That is just a ridiculous comment and assumption.
I know I see little reason or justification that I would buy one. But I will laugh at those who are hoping for it because they think they will slip it into their front pant pocket because it is so world changingly portable.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
No, but I have a GIF lined up for just such an occasion.
I bet you do.
7 million units un under a year with less than 6 months n the US market for a single product that costs around $550 has to be one of the highest selling and fastest selling CEs on the market. Even if it was a product I understood I'd still be impressed by those numbers.
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Originally Posted by bmason1270
As compared to 37 million iPhones sold in the first quarter of 2012. . .
Eventually phone sizes will settle down and stop being a selling point. Apple, I'm sure will let other manufacturers waste time finding the sweet spots.
I'm surprised that you might think they didn't already find the sweet spot with no need to change or add any other size. I mean 37 million iPhones sold. . .
Huh. I type like that often, faster and less mistakes than typing with the thumb of holding hand.
Geez... I'm getting old.
But I don't admit "over the specs" look... yet :-)
They are nice numbers but they are numbers that are "shipped", not sold. I have yet to actually see one "in the wild". By contrast I have seen more Fisker Karmas, which cost $90,000, the last few weeks than I have ever seen a Galaxy Note. The numbers bear out and anecdotal experience says this is a "niche" product.
Again, niche products can be successful but it isn't a mainstream success or even a household name.
Can we agree on that?
And besides my only reason for discussing the Galaxy Note is that I believe it to be probably the best compromise between a Tablet and a phone. I believe it's form factor is about as big as you can get and still offer true portability without the need for a second device. And as good as it is, it is still crazy huge for a phone. But, I believe people don't use their phones a phones as much anymore. But I'd find my "RunKeeper" app to be pretty prohibitive with a Galaxy Note.