Now it becomes clear. I knew eventually you'd reveal that your issue. Had nothing to do with some warped sense of accuracy but with your anti-American stance. Of course, you'll deny that but the proof is that you've never mentioned any othe countries having names that aren't etymologically speaking specific to them and only them. You've also never once taken the stance — which I graciously left out for you to hopefully did yourself out this [arse]hole you've dug for yourself — United States of America is neither the only united states nor should be considered first united states in the Americas.
If Europe is one continent, so is America. Tell me what's your argument for separating America in two and why separating Europe in two isn't valid. Please, don't confuse continents with tectonic plates.
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For example, people from the Philippines are called Pinoys…
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Yes, it's relevant. It's English vs the rest of the world.
And China. And India. So the majority.
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1) I'm not claiming that. I'm just saying that it's wrong. America is a continent. Using that name for one of its countries is arrogant and is disrespectful to the other countries in America.
Not to sound "arrogant" or "disrespectful", but too frigging bad, because that's how it has been since we got over being called "colonials".
"Get a load of this!" Great answer. I see you have no arguments :-)
No, Chinese don't use "Americas" (the word isn't even similar, it's "M?i zh?u"), nor do people from India (Mahaamerika), nor does any other nation. All countries use "America" as the continent and use "America" as the country when speaking in English or in some day-to-day occasions because of English influence, and that's pretty sad.
Too frigging bad? No wonder other nations dislike us. With people like you, what can we expect?
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Now it becomes clear. I knew eventually you'd reveal that your issue. Had nothing to do with some warped sense of accuracy but with your anti-American stance. Of course, you'll deny that but the proof is that you've never mentioned any othe countries having names that aren't etymologically speaking specific to them and only them. You've also never once taken the stance — which I graciously left out for you to hopefully did yourself out this [arse]hole you've dug for yourself — United States of America is neither the only united states nor should be considered first united states in the Americas.
No, I'm not anti-American. I'm a USA citizen just trying to show you how wrong calling our country "America" is. I know that you've grown up with it for all your life, but that doesn't mean that it's right.
"you'll deny that but the proof is that you've never mentioned any othe countries having names that aren't etymologically speaking specific to them and only them"
What? Italian is the demonym for people from Italy. Do you know any other country that has the same demonym? Are you drunk?
"United States of America is neither the only united states nor should be considered first united states in the Americas."
I never said that the United States of America was the first and only united states in America.
You seem to have the need to put words in my mouth to try make your own points. That's not a very solid way of arguing.
[quote name="heffeque" url="/t/151145/rumor-7-inch-ipad-to-be-produced-in-brazil-for-fall-launch/120#post_2146297"]No, Chinese don't use "Americas"… …nor do people from India… …nor does any other nation…[/QUOTe]
Better change Wikipedia, then. Says China, India, and English speaking countries are taught the split America model.
[QUOTE]Too frigging bad? No wonder other nations dislike us. With people like you, what can we expect?[/QUOTE]
As they say in Japan, "It was American humor."
[QUOTE]I'm a USA citizen just trying to show you how wrong calling our country "America" is.[/QUOTE]
Yeah! How could we possibly be so wrong as to call our country by part of its name!
"How could we possibly be so wrong as to call our country by part of its name!"
Well... it's a relief our country isn't called United States of Earth, we'd be called "Earthlings" and we'd have to say that when someone says "Earthling" it obviously means the United States of Earth and not planet Earth.
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Originally Posted by tribalogical
Then click "English" in the sidebar for the same article… voila.
Have you tried the same experiment with the word "American"?
And, I'm surprised that this conversation is continuing (and surprised at myself for continuing to participate).
I'll close with this, which pretty much sums it all up nicely, from one of the many links of reference:
Now I think I need to stop participating in this one. Really.
I see you haven't read the rest of the thread. I'm discussing that English is the only language that takes for granted that "America" is the country and not the continent.
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Originally Posted by imbrucewayne
Wow. about 90% of the thread is talking about the use of "Americas"
I guess the iPad mini is just so irrelevant that something like this ensues. lol
It wont be for Brazilians. They'll probably have cheap iPads for once. They probably won't have high import taxes sense they're basically made there, so it could potentially be the first Apple made gadget that isn't expensive as f*ck.
Just so you can get an idea of how expensive Apple things are in Brasil, the cheapest Retina MacBook Pro is 2.200 dollars in the USA and 10.000 reais in Brazil... the equivalent of 4.900 dollars. And now take into consideration that USA's minimum wage is 15.000 dollars (annual) and Brazil's is 3.900 dollars (annual).
Obviously Brazil's population isn't in the position of buying Apple products in a general basis, but a smaller and cheaper iPad with less import taxes would definitely be a HUGE step for Apple in the country, where you do see the occasional iPhone, but you almost only see Macs on filthy rich people's hands, sense for the middle class, paying 4000 reais (almost 2.000 dollars) for a 13 inch computer is just not justifiable in any way.
According to the latest report coming out of Japanese site Macotakara, Apple’s oft rumored 7-inch iPad, which had been dubbed as the iPad Mini in the press in the past, may be manufactured in Brazil by Apple’s partner Foxconn. The device is being speculated to enter production come this September for a release come this holiday shopping season.
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• http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country-name_etymologies
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
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Originally Posted by heffeque
If Europe is one continent, so is America. Tell me what's your argument for separating America in two and why separating Europe in two isn't valid. Please, don't confuse continents with tectonic plates.
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For example, people from the Philippines are called Pinoys…
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Yes, it's relevant. It's English vs the rest of the world.
And China. And India. So the majority.
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1) I'm not claiming that. I'm just saying that it's wrong. America is a continent. Using that name for one of its countries is arrogant and is disrespectful to the other countries in America.
Not to sound "arrogant" or "disrespectful", but too frigging bad, because that's how it has been since we got over being called "colonials".
"Get a load of this!" Great answer. I see you have no arguments :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinoy
No, Chinese don't use "Americas" (the word isn't even similar, it's "M?i zh?u"), nor do people from India (Mahaamerika), nor does any other nation. All countries use "America" as the continent and use "America" as the country when speaking in English or in some day-to-day occasions because of English influence, and that's pretty sad.
Too frigging bad? No wonder other nations dislike us. With people like you, what can we expect?
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Now it becomes clear. I knew eventually you'd reveal that your issue. Had nothing to do with some warped sense of accuracy but with your anti-American stance. Of course, you'll deny that but the proof is that you've never mentioned any othe countries having names that aren't etymologically speaking specific to them and only them. You've also never once taken the stance — which I graciously left out for you to hopefully did yourself out this [arse]hole you've dug for yourself — United States of America is neither the only united states nor should be considered first united states in the Americas.
• http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country-name_etymologies
No, I'm not anti-American. I'm a USA citizen just trying to show you how wrong calling our country "America" is. I know that you've grown up with it for all your life, but that doesn't mean that it's right.
"you'll deny that but the proof is that you've never mentioned any othe countries having names that aren't etymologically speaking specific to them and only them"
What? Italian is the demonym for people from Italy. Do you know any other country that has the same demonym? Are you drunk?
"United States of America is neither the only united states nor should be considered first united states in the Americas."
I never said that the United States of America was the first and only united states in America.
You seem to have the need to put words in my mouth to try make your own points. That's not a very solid way of arguing.
Better change Wikipedia, then. Says China, India, and English speaking countries are taught the split America model.
[QUOTE]Too frigging bad? No wonder other nations dislike us. With people like you, what can we expect?[/QUOTE]
As they say in Japan, "It was American humor."
[QUOTE]I'm a USA citizen just trying to show you how wrong calling our country "America" is.[/QUOTE]
Yeah! How could we possibly be so wrong as to call our country by part of its name!
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Originally Posted by heffeque
Here:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/America
http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika_(Doppelkontinent)
http://an.wikipedia.org/wiki/America
http://ast.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A9rica
http://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika
http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A8rica
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika
http://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika
http://ext.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A9rica
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A9rique
http://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A9rica
http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amer%C3%ADka
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/America
http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/America
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika_(continent)
http://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameryka
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A9rica
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/America
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0
http://sc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A8rica
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika
http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika
http://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%E1%BA%B9%CC%81r%C3%ADk%C3%A0
I just picked a few... and they're all in singular. No "Americas" to be seen ;-)
Then click "English" in the sidebar for the same article… voila.
Have you tried the same experiment with the word "American"?
And, I'm surprised that this conversation is continuing (and surprised at myself for continuing to participate).
I'll close with this, which pretty much sums it all up nicely, from one of the many links of reference:
"In the English language, the Americas refers to the landmasses of North America and South America with their associated islands and regions, whereas America, in current usage, usually refers to the United States of America."
Now I think I need to stop participating in this one. Really.
Wow. about 90% of the thread is talking about the use of "Americas"
I guess the iPad mini is just so irrelevant that something like this ensues. lol
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
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Originally Posted by heffeque
No, Chinese don't use "Americas"… …nor do people from India… …nor does any other nation…
Better change Wikipedia, then. Says China, India, and English speaking countries are taught the split America model.
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Too frigging bad? No wonder other nations dislike us. With people like you, what can we expect?
As they say in Japan, "It was American humor."
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I'm a USA citizen just trying to show you how wrong calling our country "America" is.
Yeah! How could we possibly be so wrong as to call our country by part of its name!
China: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BE%8E%E6%B4%B2
India: http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE
You'd better change Wikipedia then.
"How could we possibly be so wrong as to call our country by part of its name!"
Well... it's a relief our country isn't called United States of Earth, we'd be called "Earthlings" and we'd have to say that when someone says "Earthling" it obviously means the United States of Earth and not planet Earth.
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Originally Posted by tribalogical
Then click "English" in the sidebar for the same article… voila.
Have you tried the same experiment with the word "American"?
And, I'm surprised that this conversation is continuing (and surprised at myself for continuing to participate).
I'll close with this, which pretty much sums it all up nicely, from one of the many links of reference:
"In the English language, the Americas refers to the landmasses of North America and South America with their associated islands and regions, whereas America, in current usage, usually refers to the United States of America."
Now I think I need to stop participating in this one. Really.
I see you haven't read the rest of the thread. I'm discussing that English is the only language that takes for granted that "America" is the country and not the continent.
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Originally Posted by imbrucewayne
Wow. about 90% of the thread is talking about the use of "Americas"
I guess the iPad mini is just so irrelevant that something like this ensues. lol
It wont be for Brazilians. They'll probably have cheap iPads for once. They probably won't have high import taxes sense they're basically made there, so it could potentially be the first Apple made gadget that isn't expensive as f*ck.
Just so you can get an idea of how expensive Apple things are in Brasil, the cheapest Retina MacBook Pro is 2.200 dollars in the USA and 10.000 reais in Brazil... the equivalent of 4.900 dollars. And now take into consideration that USA's minimum wage is 15.000 dollars (annual) and Brazil's is 3.900 dollars (annual).
Obviously Brazil's population isn't in the position of buying Apple products in a general basis, but a smaller and cheaper iPad with less import taxes would definitely be a HUGE step for Apple in the country, where you do see the occasional iPhone, but you almost only see Macs on filthy rich people's hands, sense for the middle class, paying 4000 reais (almost 2.000 dollars) for a 13 inch computer is just not justifiable in any way.
According to the latest report coming out of Japanese site Macotakara, Apple’s oft rumored 7-inch iPad, which had been dubbed as the iPad Mini in the press in the past, may be manufactured in Brazil by Apple’s partner Foxconn. The device is being speculated to enter production come this September for a release come this holiday shopping season.