One of the principles of neurolinguistic programming is that the human brain does not store negation. If you tell a person "there is not a rattlesnake in your mailbox" the brain stores an image of a
rattlesnake in the mailbox. Additionally, the person to whom you said this will probably recall the image every time they open their mailbox from then on. Apple advertising that Samsung DOES NOT
copy will implant the association between Samsung and copying, even in the minds of people who knew nothing of the dispute between the two companies. If I were in Samsung's place, I would not
want this.
You beat me to it! The judge just threw one of the nicest eggs EVER... on Samsung. It is Samsung that will be made to look foolish here, believe me.
In fact, do exactly as the judge has ordered: picture of Samsung GalTab and the exact text: "Samsung Galaxy Tab did not copy the iPad." I would assume that Apple will be able to use their logo. I would elect not to, and instead in huge lettering: By order of Judge Colin Birss, etc. etc.
It's called "taking the high road". This is "thermonuclear" Sun Tzu
Before you go making anymore disgraceful statements, are you aware that the British libel laws extend to online forums? Any statement made on here can be used in a court case against you. People have been taken to court in the UK for making libellous statements on Twitter, Facebook and online forums like this. And don't think your anonymity is of any use. The court can make the website reveal your identity.
Alternatively the Judge can simply find you in contempt of court for showing disrespect for the Judge and throw you in prison without trial. British Judges have a lot of power.
Like I said, this might teach arrogant Apple a lesson!
To keep hitting the "Appeal" button?
Apple really isn't being taught a lesson here (at least, not the kind of lesson you WANT them to experience.)
If the UK judge's ruling is based on the connection in UK law between an unsuccessful complaint and libel, then the lesson for Apple is to be careful how they go about asserting their claims in the UK. That's all.
There is no such easy way to connect libel with an unsuccessful complaint in the US, for example.
Let's not forget that Apple is legally bound to enforce or legally exercise their rights to their patents and trademarks, or potentially lose that ability in the future.
So... could it be, that Apple is doing this as a "precedent" and forewarning to certain products and patents to come? The courts then can NOT say that they do not have enough experience, or that there aren't any rulings of this kind that have been made, so as to prolong a long drawn out legal proceeding.
This could also be used to poke fun at, and be very good reasons for Apple to battle the USPO, and help bring on patent reform. I actually would say that this would be to the detriment of the other tech manufacturers in the future. We, they and Apple KNOWS... that they are copying and reverse-engineering Apple's products the day they hit the market.
Apple was far too slow trying to stop Microsoft at one time, and look what happened. This time they're on their toes, and wont even let that ball get rolling. It's a steep and fast hill down if they do.
Before you go making anymore disgraceful statements, are you aware that the British libel laws extend to online forums? Any statement made on here can be used in a court case against you. People have been taken to court in the UK for making libellous statements on Twitter, Facebook and online forums like this. And don't think your anonymity is of any use. The court can make the website reveal your identity.
How did the person to whom you were responding merit THAT response?
He said:
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Originally Posted by vtrac
It is sad to see that the mafias influence of Samsung in South Korea has spread to the British Legal System as well.
He just gave his opinion (irrespective of whether or not it's informed) on what I assume is your legal system. Apparently he thinks it's corrupt.
What actual harm has been done here? Are you some sort of fascist?
Maybe we shouldn't blame the Koreans, Chinese etc. They're just trying to make an easy buck and create local jobs in their own countries off the sweat of western R&D. But the west seems bent on absolutely f***ing itself out of existence and giving away the farm in a single generation.
Let's not forget that Apple is legally bound to enforce or legally exercise their rights to their patents and trademarks, or potentially lose that ability in the future.
So... could it be, that Apple is doing this as a "precedent" and forewarning to certain products and patents to come? The courts then can NOT say that they do not have enough experience, or that there aren't any rulings of this kind that have been made, so as to prolong a long drawn out legal proceeding.
This could also be used to poke fun at, and be very good reasons for Apple to battle the USPO, and help bring on patent reform. I actually would say that this would be to the detriment of the other tech manufacturers in the future. We, they and Apple KNOWS... that they are copying and reverse-engineering Apple's products the day they hit the market.
Apple was far too slow trying to stop Microsoft at one time, and look what happened. This time they're on their toes, and wont even let that ball get rolling. It's a steep and fast hill down if they do.
True but many of their patents are nonsense and vague.
The last time I remember this happening was when the Sun newspaper had to print a front page apology to Elton John after to losing a libel case. They wrote an article which claimed he was gay.
I wonder if we're not misinterpreting the judge's motives. I'm sure he's smart enough to know that this is not going to stand up in appeal, but at the same time he might want to send a clear message to Apple: keep this up and you could wind up being badly bitten.
I would argue that it isn't appropriate for Apple to say anything about the UK court ruling (that Samsung Galaxy Tab doesn't copy iPad) on their website because Apple never posted any claim that the Galaxy Tab copied the iPad on their website to begin with. That is something they asserted before the courts. And court rulings are the job of the press to disseminate to the public. It's not Apple's job.
Is it supposed to be a punitive measure for Apple going before the courts and arguing a civil case? Will all future civil cases result in measures like this? Of so, what is it supposed to accomplish?
Like I said, this might teach arrogant Apple a lesson!
South Korea fighting!
Mighty Samsung fighting!
"South Korea fighting" wasn't just a bad t-shirt from the World Cup 2002 - it was an open admission to the world of Konglish.
Even at with your bribed refs and home turf advantage the best "South Korea Fighting" could muster was 4th place. 4th! And we all know the Oriental connotation of that number
Samsung, POSCO, LG etc were all built on western expertise and stolen patents - but I guess that's something you can be proud of.
The last time I remember this happening was when the Sun newspaper had to print a front page apology to Elton John after to losing a libel case. They wrote an article which claimed he was gay.
Before you go making anymore disgraceful statements, are you aware that the British libel laws extend to online forums? Any statement made on here can be used in a court case against you. People have been taken to court in the UK for making libellous statements on Twitter, Facebook and online forums like this. And don't think your anonymity is of any use. The court can make the website reveal your identity.
Alternatively the Judge can simply find you in contempt of court for showing disrespect for the Judge and throw you in prison without trial. British Judges have a lot of power.
British libel laws - as draconian as they are - have never been used against anonymous posters to my knowledge.
Its thanks to our stupid legal system that the country is paralysed by fear of personal injury lawsuits, health & safety laws and the outlawing of free speech an why we no longer make anything in this country. Thanks to successive socialist governments the UK is now totally hostile to business, and in particular small startups making innovative things of the type which thrive in California. It makes me ashamed to be British.
"South Korea fighting" wasn't just a bad t-shirt from the World Cup 2002 - it was an open admission to the world of Konglish.
Even at with your bribed refs and home turf advantage the best "South Korea Fighting" could muster was 4th place. 4th! And we all know the Oriental connotation of that number
Samsung, POSCO, LG etc were all built on western expertise and stolen patents - but I guess that's something you can be proud of.
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Originally Posted by AdonisSMU
I simply wouldn't do it. It's not like the people in the UK won't simply scalp for the devices anyway.
That's why you aren't in charge of any company and make posts like that on the internet...
You beat me to it! The judge just threw one of the nicest eggs EVER... on Samsung. It is Samsung that will be made to look foolish here, believe me.
In fact, do exactly as the judge has ordered: picture of Samsung GalTab and the exact text: "Samsung Galaxy Tab did not copy the iPad." I would assume that Apple will be able to use their logo. I would elect not to, and instead in huge lettering: By order of Judge Colin Birss, etc. etc.
It's called "taking the high road". This is "thermonuclear" Sun Tzu
Like I said, this might teach arrogant Apple a lesson!
South Korea fighting!
Mighty Samsung fighting!
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Originally Posted by Scaramanga89
Mate, your signature is a quote from Margaret Thatcher ffs. You lost all credibility with any rational thinker as soon as you put that on.
Maybe they should have had a quote from a brilliant thinker like George W Bush lololol
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK
Before you go making anymore disgraceful statements, are you aware that the British libel laws extend to online forums? Any statement made on here can be used in a court case against you. People have been taken to court in the UK for making libellous statements on Twitter, Facebook and online forums like this. And don't think your anonymity is of any use. The court can make the website reveal your identity.
Alternatively the Judge can simply find you in contempt of court for showing disrespect for the Judge and throw you in prison without trial. British Judges have a lot of power.
Bwaahhhh........
Get serious. LOL.
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Originally Posted by SuperJunior
Like I said, this might teach arrogant Apple a lesson!
To keep hitting the "Appeal" button?
Apple really isn't being taught a lesson here (at least, not the kind of lesson you WANT them to experience.)
If the UK judge's ruling is based on the connection in UK law between an unsuccessful complaint and libel, then the lesson for Apple is to be careful how they go about asserting their claims in the UK. That's all.
There is no such easy way to connect libel with an unsuccessful complaint in the US, for example.
So... could it be, that Apple is doing this as a "precedent" and forewarning to certain products and patents to come? The courts then can NOT say that they do not have enough experience, or that there aren't any rulings of this kind that have been made, so as to prolong a long drawn out legal proceeding.
This could also be used to poke fun at, and be very good reasons for Apple to battle the USPO, and help bring on patent reform. I actually would say that this would be to the detriment of the other tech manufacturers in the future. We, they and Apple KNOWS... that they are copying and reverse-engineering Apple's products the day they hit the market.
Apple was far too slow trying to stop Microsoft at one time, and look what happened. This time they're on their toes, and wont even let that ball get rolling. It's a steep and fast hill down if they do.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun, UK
Before you go making anymore disgraceful statements, are you aware that the British libel laws extend to online forums? Any statement made on here can be used in a court case against you. People have been taken to court in the UK for making libellous statements on Twitter, Facebook and online forums like this. And don't think your anonymity is of any use. The court can make the website reveal your identity.
How did the person to whom you were responding merit THAT response?
He said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by vtrac
It is sad to see that the mafias influence of Samsung in South Korea has spread to the British Legal System as well.
He just gave his opinion (irrespective of whether or not it's informed) on what I assume is your legal system. Apparently he thinks it's corrupt.
What actual harm has been done here? Are you some sort of fascist?
Maybe we shouldn't blame the Koreans, Chinese etc. They're just trying to make an easy buck and create local jobs in their own countries off the sweat of western R&D. But the west seems bent on absolutely f***ing itself out of existence and giving away the farm in a single generation.
nm
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePixelDoc
Let's not forget that Apple is legally bound to enforce or legally exercise their rights to their patents and trademarks, or potentially lose that ability in the future.
So... could it be, that Apple is doing this as a "precedent" and forewarning to certain products and patents to come? The courts then can NOT say that they do not have enough experience, or that there aren't any rulings of this kind that have been made, so as to prolong a long drawn out legal proceeding.
This could also be used to poke fun at, and be very good reasons for Apple to battle the USPO, and help bring on patent reform. I actually would say that this would be to the detriment of the other tech manufacturers in the future. We, they and Apple KNOWS... that they are copying and reverse-engineering Apple's products the day they hit the market.
Apple was far too slow trying to stop Microsoft at one time, and look what happened. This time they're on their toes, and wont even let that ball get rolling. It's a steep and fast hill down if they do.
True but many of their patents are nonsense and vague.
The last time I remember this happening was when the Sun newspaper had to print a front page apology to Elton John after to losing a libel case. They wrote an article which claimed he was gay.
I wonder if we're not misinterpreting the judge's motives. I'm sure he's smart enough to know that this is not going to stand up in appeal, but at the same time he might want to send a clear message to Apple: keep this up and you could wind up being badly bitten.
Is it supposed to be a punitive measure for Apple going before the courts and arguing a civil case? Will all future civil cases result in measures like this? Of so, what is it supposed to accomplish?
This ruling is bizarre.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperJunior
Like I said, this might teach arrogant Apple a lesson!
South Korea fighting!
Mighty Samsung fighting!
"South Korea fighting" wasn't just a bad t-shirt from the World Cup 2002 - it was an open admission to the world of Konglish.
Even at with your bribed refs and home turf advantage the best "South Korea Fighting" could muster was 4th place. 4th! And we all know the Oriental connotation of that number
Samsung, POSCO, LG etc were all built on western expertise and stolen patents - but I guess that's something you can be proud of.
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Originally Posted by Rayz
The last time I remember this happening was when the Sun newspaper had to print a front page apology to Elton John after to losing a libel case. They wrote an article which claimed he was gay.
Wait, what? Elton John's not gay?!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun, UK
Before you go making anymore disgraceful statements, are you aware that the British libel laws extend to online forums? Any statement made on here can be used in a court case against you. People have been taken to court in the UK for making libellous statements on Twitter, Facebook and online forums like this. And don't think your anonymity is of any use. The court can make the website reveal your identity.
Alternatively the Judge can simply find you in contempt of court for showing disrespect for the Judge and throw you in prison without trial. British Judges have a lot of power.
British libel laws - as draconian as they are - have never been used against anonymous posters to my knowledge.
Its thanks to our stupid legal system that the country is paralysed by fear of personal injury lawsuits, health & safety laws and the outlawing of free speech an why we no longer make anything in this country. Thanks to successive socialist governments the UK is now totally hostile to business, and in particular small startups making innovative things of the type which thrive in California. It makes me ashamed to be British.
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Originally Posted by Radar
"South Korea fighting" wasn't just a bad t-shirt from the World Cup 2002 - it was an open admission to the world of Konglish.
Even at with your bribed refs and home turf advantage the best "South Korea Fighting" could muster was 4th place. 4th! And we all know the Oriental connotation of that number
Samsung, POSCO, LG etc were all built on western expertise and stolen patents - but I guess that's something you can be proud of.
Racist?
Heil Hitler!
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
This ruling is bizarre.
But is it? Samsung is a friend to the British people. Just yesterday, they bailed out one of our struggling tech companies, CSR, to the tune of £200M.
And now, a judge rules that Apple must apologise for falsely accusing Samsung of copying their designs.
Do not think these two events are unconnected - "justice" sometimes works in mysterious ways.
No, this judge simply had enough of Apple arrogance!
Courts do not exist so that companies which fail at innovation can sue their competitors.
If Apple wins, consumers lose.