Samsung smartphone shipments estimated at 52M, doubling Apple's iPhone

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  • Reply 41 of 204
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Android phones are adopted by a younger demographic and are typically the first smartphones when users switch from feature phones. That usually means the 18-25 year old crowd. Also, a huge number of Android handsets are cheapo touch screens sold in southeast Asia, that largely function as touch screen feature phones since there is little app purchasing and activity from that region.
    You'll find a lot more Android handsets at schools.
    Air travelers are a pretty different demographic for the majority of the year. A big percentage of normal air travelers fall into that prime consumer demographic: 30-59, college educated professional, excellent amount of disposable income, especially outside of the seasonal holiday travel.

    Or maybe they're using the super fast LTE network which in many cases faster than the wifi every Tom, Dick, and Harry is using.
  • Reply 42 of 204
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by markbyrn View Post


    BTW AI, have you thought about doing some investigative journalism on these fantastical claims by Samsung/Google?  I work at a major airport in Florida and when running a simple network scan on the free Wi-Fi service, it invariably shows about 90% connections from Apple devices vice anything else.  Where are all these Android phones hiding?





    Europe, Asia, Oceana.  I get the impression Samsung is far more prominent in markets outside the US than within.

  • Reply 43 of 204
    markbyrn wrote: »
    BTW AI, have you thought about doing some investigative journalism on these fantastical claims by Samsung/Google?  I work at a major airport in Florida and when running a simple network scan on the free Wi-Fi service, it invariably shows about 90% connections from Apple devices vice anything else.  Where are all these Android phones hiding?

    There are a lot of devices outside the USA, but also, inside the USA Apple sells half of the smartphones, plus iPod touches and iPads. No doubt Apple should be most popular at an airport in Florida. A lot of evidence around the net suggest about 1/2of Android phones are really used more like feature phones than like app phones. That should further skew wi-fi data to Apple.
  • Reply 44 of 204
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    <span style="background-color:rgb(241,241,241);">It looks like they have learned from the righty/wingnut/ repuglican play book. Tell a lie often enough and long enough it becomes their truth.</span>


    <span style="background-color:rgb(241,241,241);">there fixed it for you...</span>

    What did you expect from a guy who's name is Whitey? Truth is that both parties lie.
  • Reply 45 of 204
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    We do know that if Samsung's numbers were better than the Analyst reports they would be releasing them. Maybe the IDC estimate of 42 million was too low for them so they asked Juniper to make up a higher number. The obvious threat to these companies is that Samsung releases their own numbers and the analysts sell a lot less $2000 reports.
  • Reply 46 of 204
    simtubsimtub Posts: 277member
    Samsung selling more phones than Apple is like Ford selling more cars than Porsche
    It is irrelevant...Quality over Quantity any day
  • Reply 47 of 204
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member

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    Originally Posted by Wovel View Post





    Samsung does not release any such number. This is just made up by some analyst.




    Of course they don't:


     


     


    Quote:



    Galaxy S3 smartphone sales top 10 mln mark: executive

    SEOUL, July 22 (Yonhap) -- Samsung Electronics Co.'s global sales of its Galaxy S3 smartphones have surpassed the 10 million mark less than two months after its official release, a senior executive of the world's largest mobile phone maker said Sunday.



       Shin Jong-kyun, the president of Samsung's information technology and mobile communication division, told reporters that the phone has become a 10-million seller after it was first unveiled on May 29 in London. He, however, did not give exact numbers.



       This translates into about 190,000 Galaxy S3s being sold every day, and easily ahead of its very popular predecessor -- the Galaxy S2 -- that reported sales hitting 10 million, five months after it reached consumers.



    http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/techscience/2012/07/22/99/0601000000AEN20120722002300320F.HTML

  • Reply 48 of 204

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    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    What did you expect from a guy who's name is Whitey? Truth is that both parties lie.


    they all do lie, thats for sure. but you have to pick your poison or you have no reason to complain.

  • Reply 49 of 204
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    sleepy3 wrote: »
    You are missing something though.

    Apple does not operate in a vacuum. They very much do see what competitors have. And they very much do take ideas from competitors and put into their own products along with the original stuff that they come up with themselves.

    Any company that operates in a bubble without keeping an eye on what the competition is doing will soon be dead. 

    Matter of fact, Apple even regularly sends employees to events like CES where they have no booth even, just to see what the competition is up to. 

    Exactly, much of the tech Apple uses in their devices was invented by someone else and Apple bought the company. A single company no matter how big can think of everything.
  • Reply 50 of 204
    cvaldes1831cvaldes1831 Posts: 1,832member
    Also, a huge number of Android handsets are cheapo touch screens sold in southeast Asia, that largely function as touch screen feature phones since there is little app purchasing and activity from that region.
    genovelle wrote: »
    So how are these smartphones that should be compared to the iPhone?

    Here's a typical low end Android phone. 600MHz CPU, 240x320 screen, QVGA video recording at 15 frames per second.
  • Reply 51 of 204
    mcrsmcrs Posts: 172member


    I betcha had you worked at the best airport in the world for the 7th year running, Incheon Airport in South Korea, you'd be asking different question...


     


    Quote:


    Originally Posted by markbyrn View Post


    BTW AI, have you thought about doing some investigative journalism on these fantastical claims by Samsung/Google?  I work at a major airport in Florida and when running a simple network scan on the free Wi-Fi service, it invariably shows about 90% connections from Apple devices vice anything else.  Where are all these Android phones hiding?


  • Reply 52 of 204
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    simtub wrote: »
    Samsung selling more phones than Apple is like Ford selling more cars than Porsche
    It is irrelevant...Quality over Quantity any day

    Some of you on here need to work in PR, I've never seen better spin doctoring.
  • Reply 53 of 204
    harbingerharbinger Posts: 570member

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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


     


    Of course it is. It is by definition. The next iPhone isn't the iPhone 5, also by definition.



     


     


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    Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26 View Post


     


     


    Please tell us your "definition".


     


     It seems that everyone in the world is calling the next iPhone the iPhone 5, except for a vanishingly small number of people who think that their idiosycratic definitions are "correct". 



     


     


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    Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post


    Which isn't the iPhone 5.



     


     


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    Originally Posted by Woodlink View Post


    Of course, this headline will be meaningless when the iPhone 5 is released.



     


    Why do you all persist in this silly game?

  • Reply 54 of 204
    richlrichl Posts: 2,213member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by markbyrn View Post


    BTW AI, have you thought about doing some investigative journalism on these fantastical claims by Samsung/Google?  I work at a major airport in Florida and when running a simple network scan on the free Wi-Fi service, it invariably shows about 90% connections from Apple devices vice anything else.  Where are all these Android phones hiding?



     


    Europe and Asia? The Samsung Galaxy SIII is incredibly popular in the UK.


     


     


    The amount of butthurt in this thread is hilarious. Go check Samsung's quarterly reports - they're making a lot of money at the moment. It's pretty obvious that they're not stuffing the channel.

  • Reply 55 of 204

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    Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist View Post


    BOO ON APPLE INSIDER! Can't you tell the difference between "sales" and "shipments", and can't you mention that for clarity in your article?



    Agreed. Compare this to CNET, whose article on the same topic says: "But before we go too far with the Samsung-killing-Apple rhetoric, it's important to point out that the "shipments" Juniper is citing for the iPhone are actually sales. Shipments, on the other hand, do not necessarily mean that all devices are sold. In Apple's case, all of the so-called "shipments" by Juniper were actually sales."


     


    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57480412-37/samsung-ships-52.1-million-smartphones-in-q2-doubles-iphone/

  • Reply 56 of 204
    harbingerharbinger Posts: 570member


    Likely "shipped" > "sold".  Perhaps even >>.


     


    But there are three valid questions/points:


     


    - Samsung sells a variety of phones. But there is more than one iPhone too - 3GS, 4, 4S. So comparing the totals is not completely unreasonable, but is also far from telling the whole story.


    - Even if "shipped">>"sold", Samsung is not writing down 10s of millions of units in inventory. So the number of "sold" units must be quite decent.


    - We can't ignore the fact that in North America, iPhones are so much more visible (not the case in Europe or Asia). Having said that, Samsung introduced Galaxy S3 (and S2 as well?) outside of NA first.  That might explain some of the discrepancy, but not all.  IMO, there aren't just more iPhones in consumers' hands, people also use their iPhones more - an observation also validated by mobile internet use stats.

  • Reply 57 of 204
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member


    Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26 View Post

    Please tell us your "definition".


     


    Hardware generation.


     



     It seems that everyone in the world is calling the next iPhone the iPhone 5, except for a vanishingly small number of people who think that their idiosycratic definitions are "correct". 



     


    And everyone called the iPhone 3G "iPhone 2" before launch. Not to put too fine a point on it, but they're all idiots (these tech sites that perpetuate this crap), whining about how the iPhone 5 didn't come out last year, so it must be coming out this year.





    Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post

    Why do you all persist in this silly game?


     


    Because I'm correct. The next iPhone is not "5" in any way. Except, probably, five star in rating systems that haven't devolved into the pathetic Like/Dislike nonsense.

  • Reply 58 of 204

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    Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26 View Post


     


     


    All I ever see are iPhones.  I never see anything else in the wild.  /s



    That is almost exactly right, your silly sarcasm tag notwithstanding. Go and troll somewhere else, man.

  • Reply 59 of 204
    shaun, ukshaun, uk Posts: 1,050member

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    Originally Posted by sleepy3 View Post


    I KNOW. for the last 2 years, Samsung have been shipping over 35 million or so smartphones per quarter. And of those, only about 4 million get sold (We know this from basic mathematics based on the pi x sqrt B.S. formula). We all know that carriers happily just take MILLIONS of product, quarter after quarter and stack them high in their back room which has the properties of a black hole so it can fit an infinite amount of Samsung phones in a very small place by causing a rip in the fabric of space and time and forming a gravitational singularity.


     


    Then, Samsung ships even MORE the next quarter and its the same story. I'm serious, go to any verizon or vodafone and go look in the back, there are millions of Samsung phones there and the sad part....the people who own the stores just keep ordering MORE. I mean seriously, they ship MORE AND MORE every quarter. Sooner or later the those black holes containing millions of unsold Samsung phones will merge together to create a supermassive black hole which will feed on the even more millions of Samsung phones that are ordered by the carriers every quarter and never sold, and soon the world will be engulfed and swallowed up and the human race will end all because of the millions of unsold Samsung smartphones in the black holes in the back room of every carrier around the world. 


     


    Its the only logical explanation. I mean, its either that.....or the phones actually sell. But the phones actually selling is not very plausible, since nobody buys a Samsung phone, so yeah. Black holes in the back of every store. image



     


    Excellent post.


     


    It seems many fanbois simply can't possibly accept the fact that some people are happy to buy a Samsung phone over an iPhone and will use any excuse to try and discredit the figures.

  • Reply 60 of 204

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    Originally Posted by Wovel View Post





    Samsung does not release any such number. This is just made up by some analyst.


    This is exactly right.


     


    You think any sane organization wouldn't be shouting audited numbers like this from their rooftops if it were actually true?

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